Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - which frame to buy.......

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.... cinelli supreacosa pista but in grayish blue
http://www.white-elephant.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/supercorsapista.jpg
or
colnago master pista but in white with blue
http://www.chicagolandbicycle.com/images/masterpista_008G.jpg
damn both so nice .......but which one ........arrruuugh decisions....
you thought this was going to be a Mercier vs Bianchi pista question huh?
Live2Die
03-17-08, 05:51 PM
cinelli
roadfix
03-17-08, 05:53 PM
Cinelli is good. I have the Olympic.
Rosso Corsa
03-17-08, 05:54 PM
yep I'd say cinelli, although it is a bit hard for me to picture the colnago in different colours.
maddyfish
03-17-08, 05:58 PM
Colnago. Like to see pics though.
metaljim
03-17-08, 06:04 PM
from an aesthetics view, i'd go with the cinelli. which frame fits you the best? are they the exact same?
thiskidgotmoxie
03-17-08, 06:20 PM
Colnago
freeskihp
03-17-08, 06:38 PM
'nago, full vintage campy except with purple anodized sugino cranks and chrome HED3
real classy
aekeroo
03-17-08, 06:42 PM
both
purple anodized sugino cranks and chrome HED3
real classy
every one know you do pink cranks with chrome hed3.
I'm gonna get some of that hvac chrome tape and start customizing my hed3 now
freeskihp
03-17-08, 08:28 PM
can I call that trend right now?
nateintokyo
03-17-08, 09:19 PM
Cinelli
snortCRANK
03-17-08, 09:35 PM
the cinelli is gorgeous
dayvan cowboy
03-17-08, 09:39 PM
cinelli based on appearence.
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What prices are you getting on those frames, if I may ask?
windup capybara
03-17-08, 10:21 PM
why does that colnago frame look so weird to me? Is it the angle? Skewed proportions? Also why does it have something in the forks and what is it? Also those decals are obnoxious; does it really need to scream the brand name on every available surface? It may be the world's best frame for all I know but the whole thing annoys the hell out of me. Go Cinelli!
metaljim
03-17-08, 10:25 PM
very similar in size
cinelli all the way.
Srsly how much is that Cinelli pista?
MSRP is 1200, but is that what it goes for?
http://cinelli.it/prodotti/telai/dettaglio/PISTADET.jpg
http://cinelli.it/prodotti/telai/zoom/telaiopistaZ.jpg
Does the Colnago come with the straight chromed front-fork? If so: Colnago.
I_luv_hooters
03-18-08, 08:53 AM
hey Sniks, how many bikes to you have? Several, right? I have a question for some of you guys who are constantly buying new frames. I'm just wondering what you will do... just ride this new one some of the time? Or do you always sell your old bikes and make each new bike your new main bike.
I have 2 bikes and I love them both but i really ride only 1 most of the time. Yet I still have the same compulsion to buy new frames all the time. I'm just wondering if anyone is ever finally happy with what they have. Or is there happiness in having a collection of bikes that gets bigger and bigger. Serious question. This is an issue for me, too. When are we simply happy and done buying? I want both of those frames!
mattface
03-18-08, 09:19 AM
Hooters I've got 4, I breifly managed to get it from 7 down to 3, but then I found the Razesa and fell in love, so now I've got 4.I try to keep it so all my bikes are somewhat different from one another, otherwise one would make another similar bike redundant. I think 3 is the perfect number for me, but I can't find one to part with.
I tend to go through periods where I prefer one and the others get neglected for a while. Right now I've been riding the winter beater for too long, and I'm longing to ride one of the other three that share my bedroom, but I'm waiting for nicer weather, the salt is murder on bikes, and that's why it's nice to have one dedicated to salty slushy riding. In the summer the winter beater will be reserved for rainy days (fenders) and hauling stuff (racks). The fixed gear and the Razesa are the fun bikes I choose most often, leaving the fuji cross as the most neglected one of the bunch, but it's also my most practical bike for long rides, so I can't really part with it either.
On topic, I like the Cinelli, but I think it's mostly because I dig the green and chrome, and the decals are less obnoxious. From the pics the Nago appears to have shorter chainstays, which might make it a bit more fun to ride, but that could just be an optical illusion. If they really are very similar, I'd go with the cheaper one first, all else being equal, I'd go with the pretty one.
veeco23
03-18-08, 09:25 AM
Does the Colnago come with the straight chromed front-fork? If so: Colnago.
+3.5
although i love the pin-stripe on the cinelli seat-toob.
Cinelli looks nicer to me because it has more vintage style while Colnago looks ugly and somehow very 90s-like. But these are just esthetics.
I would go for Cinelli personally.
But is this it; Keirin bikes are yesterday's news, now we all want Italian classic track bikes?
operator
03-18-08, 09:39 AM
tomassini 4tw
goldenskeletons
03-18-08, 09:45 AM
if by italian classic track bikes you mean modern-production italian track bikes, then sure!
you really can't go wrong with either of these frames if you're seriously considering buying one, although i'm pretty sure this whole thread was started just as a counterpoint to all the mark v/pista threads out there. ...that's not the argument anymore is it? its the kilo TT these days, huh?
anyway, i've always been wary of fastback seatstays. i've seen plenty of frames like this that break at the seat cluster. a friend of mine (who i think posts here) had a landshark that happened to that broke my heart to hear about. i also love the colnago's shaped tubing. if i were going for either of these for practical reasons, i'd feel more confident with the colnago. if i were looking to buy for the sake of having a classy italian frame, i'd be going for an older production Cinelli instead of one of the new ones. y'know. history 'n stuff.
icknayvon
03-18-08, 12:59 PM
tomassini 4tw
How many times do we have to cover this? Tomassini is NOT affiliated with bikes at all.
:eek:$2600 for the cinelli
too rich for me
hey Sniks, how many bikes to you have? Several, right? I have a question for some of you guys who are constantly buying new frames. I'm just wondering what you will do... just ride this new one some of the time? Or do you always sell your old bikes and make each new bike your new main bike.
I have 2 bikes and I love them both but i really ride only 1 most of the time. Yet I still have the same compulsion to buy new frames all the time. I'm just wondering if anyone is ever finally happy with what they have. Or is there happiness in having a collection of bikes that gets bigger and bigger. Serious question. This is an issue for me, too. When are we simply happy and done buying? I want both of those frames!
I currently have 4 bikes track bike and ride them for different moods but switch them up alot and ride different bike for different things not doing tricks on my tommasini or skids much with my shierff star hubs.
at this point I will sell my pinarello for the colnago or cinelli and probaly my Hed3 as well and may be a kidney....
goldenskeletons
03-18-08, 01:18 PM
what? no way. columbus spirit nyobium frame, columbus keirin fork, italian BB, $2600?? that stuff better ride like a magic carpet on a glass rainbow.
the colnago master pista is over $2000 w/o a fork. i'm sure you could find a $450 fork to throw on there though. i mean, why put anything less on a $2K+ frame? go nuts!
babychris
03-18-08, 01:36 PM
colnago. cause I miss mine so much.
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