Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Just ordered a Capo frameset. Time for some parts.

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drainyoo
03-18-08, 11:53 AM
So I pulled the triggers and ordered a 08 Cannondale frameset through my local dealer. I was going to go with a Pista Concept but there was no reliable way to getting front and rear brakes on it. Yes, I know, I'm a wuss.
Anyway, since this is my first experience with single-speed, I wanted to get some recommendations from you guys on crankset (Shimano, Campagnolo, FSA, other?) and wheelset (Velocity DP, Formula DP18, other?) options. For the wheels I'm looking for a white set with a higher profile than normal but I'm also opened to normal profiles, as long as they are white. The bike is red and white so I want to keep that look going and I might even consider red or black spokes.
So lets have it folks!
Velocità
03-18-08, 11:57 AM
you probably should state a budget before this gets out of hand.....
drainyoo
03-18-08, 12:01 PM
Don't really have a budget. Besides, I want to get all options and then I'll worry about cost.
If money is not a problem, for cranks I would start by suggesting either Dura-Ace FC-7600 or Sugino 75.
Both are very good and usually people prefer the 165mm version.
Velocità
03-18-08, 12:08 PM
i have been running the DP18s since august and have been reasonably happy with them, though i plan on going with velocity fusions for my new build. i have the standard silver rims, so no direct experience with the painted ones, but i have heard that the paint on the DP18s doesnt hold up so well. and if money isnt a problem velocity's are what i would choose.
SeanBonham
03-18-08, 12:10 PM
I want to know how much you got that frameset for?
:)
RaeFixie
03-18-08, 12:19 PM
if this is your first time why not get a not so expensive stuff but good...
Rae,
Aeroplane
03-18-08, 12:19 PM
Don't really have a budget.
If that was the case, why buy a Capo? :D
Did you get the red one? I like that paint for some reason. I think the Capo is basically a CAAD5, and those were good frames.
drainyoo
03-18-08, 01:04 PM
I want to know how much you got that frameset for?
:)
$599.99
drainyoo
03-18-08, 01:05 PM
if this is your first time why not get a not so expensive stuff but good...
Rae,
Well it's not my first bike. The drivetrain is just new to me.
drainyoo
03-18-08, 01:06 PM
If that was the case, why buy a Capo? :D
Touche!
No budget doesn't mean I can spend an infinite amount of money. Just means I didn't really think about a budget.
drainyoo
03-18-08, 01:07 PM
Did you get the red one? I like that paint for some reason. I think the Capo is basically a CAAD5, and those were good frames.
Yup I got the red and white one and yes it's a CAAD 5 frame.
drainyoo
03-18-08, 01:08 PM
If money is not a problem, for cranks I would start by suggesting either Dura-Ace FC-7600 or Sugino 75.
Both are very good and usually people prefer the 165mm version.
Thanks! Not feeling the Campagnolo Pista or the FSA carbon?
drainyoo
03-18-08, 01:10 PM
i have been running the DP18s since august and have been reasonably happy with them, though i plan on going with velocity fusions for my new build. i have the standard silver rims, so no direct experience with the painted ones, but i have heard that the paint on the DP18s doesnt hold up so well. and if money isnt a problem velocity's are what i would choose.
The Velocity's are nice and priced very well. Do you know if there is a place where you can custom pick the colors when ordering the wheels?
Also, I'll be riding this on the road, probably never on a track, will track specific wheels hold up on the road? Or are they just as durable as a regular road wheel?
frankstoneline
03-18-08, 01:14 PM
I would say, if I was building your bike it would look like this...Black Sugino 75's in the 165 length, the matching bottom bracket, some white deep V's I suppose, though I would prefer some aeroheads, laced to some formula hubs or something (supposing its going to be ridden on the street).
Bens Cycles (http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=464) will custom build your wheels.
Track hubs generally aren't sealed as well as road hubs. Most people don't even notice this to be an issue, however.
drainyoo
03-18-08, 01:22 PM
I would say, if I was building your bike it would look like this...Black Sugino 75's in the 165 length, the matching bottom bracket, some white deep V's I suppose, though I would prefer some aeroheads, laced to some formula hubs or something (supposing its going to be ridden on the street).
I've never heard of Sugino, what's the deal with them? I found a place where I can buy just the cranks. Is there a chain ring that I can pair with it that would make it a nice setup? Also, do you know the weight of these puppies?
drainyoo
03-18-08, 01:30 PM
Bens Cycles (http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=464) will custom build your wheels.
Track hubs generally aren't sealed as well as road hubs. Most people don't even notice this to be an issue, however.
Excellent site! Thanks man. I sued their color picker and white rims, red hubs and black spokes looks so sweet. Unfortunately they are out of red hubs. They have a ton of options though. I'm going to call them.
Gyeswho
03-18-08, 02:00 PM
I just scored an 06 Capo in silver for a great price. It's an AWESOME frame that is excellent for sprinting and climbing with. For parts I'd say go for the Miche Advanced crankset which is just as good as sugino and you won't be stressing the cranks to notice the difference anyway (it's cheaper than sugino, DA, or Campy and you can score the cranks, ring, and BB for under $200 from AEbike.com (http://aebike.com/page.cfm?action=list&PageID=30&category=181&modelId=12085&type=T))
If you're looking for the bike to be very light go for Mavic OPs but otherwise go for the Velocity (with either deep v or aerohead)
drainyoo
03-18-08, 02:34 PM
I was just about to ask about the Miche Advanced. They seem really nice and the price is excellent. Other than the FSA, do any SS carbon fiber cranks exist?
I just scored an 06 Capo in silver for a great price. It's an AWESOME frame that is excellent for sprinting and climbing with. For parts I'd say go for the Miche Advanced crankset which is just as good as sugino and you won't be stressing the cranks to notice the difference anyway (it's cheaper than sugino, DA, or Campy and you can score the cranks, ring, and BB for under $200 from AEbike.com (http://aebike.com/page.cfm?action=list&PageID=30&category=181&modelId=12085&type=T))
If you're looking for the bike to be very light go for Mavic OPs but otherwise go for the Velocity (with either deep v or aerohead)
Mavic Open Pros advertise as 425 grams
Velocity Aeroheads are listed 405 grams
Weight Weenies has measurements for these showing nearly identical for actual weight
Velocity Deep V's are 520 grams
WW says these are usually about 580 grams
Click here for a big list of rim weights (http://weightweenies.starbike.com/listings/components.php?type=rims)
Gyeswho
03-18-08, 04:11 PM
Mavic Open Pros advertise as 425 grams
Velocity Aeroheads are listed 405 grams
Weight Weenies has measurements for these showing nearly identical for actual weight
Velocity Deep V's are 520 grams
WW says these are usually about 580 grams
Click here for a big list of rim weights (http://weightweenies.starbike.com/listings/components.php?type=rims)
OPs have the advantage because they are eyeleted and better quality which contributes to a longer lasting rim over the aerohead
freeskihp
03-18-08, 04:33 PM
going for a modern meets vintage thing:
Omnium Cranks
Phils/Atlanta 96(or velocity equivalent)
standard clips/straps(white)
White selle italia flite
campy aero post
some chrome stem, polished risers
no black on the bike except tires
vittoria rubino pro's(white)
avoid white wheels, they look tacky
fast_track
03-18-08, 04:50 PM
White Deep V's......? If you are running brakes they are gonna look like s**t in about 2 rides. The brake pad markings will upset you I promise. You could go with machined sidewalls on the white rims, but brakes on white paint...... NFG! I have run Mavic CXP33's with Phil Wood 36 hole HF hubs and love them. Just my 2 cents. Have fun with the build
drainyoo
03-18-08, 05:11 PM
going for a modern meets vintage thing:
Omnium Cranks
Phils/Atlanta 96(or velocity equivalent)
standard clips/straps(white)
White selle italia flite
campy aero post
some chrome stem, polished risers
no black on the bike except tires
vittoria rubino pro's(white)
avoid white wheels, they look tacky
Tacky? White wheels are look awesome. I think White tires are lame.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3215/2315105097_ea5fa76606.jpg?v=0
drainyoo
03-18-08, 05:12 PM
White Deep V's......? If you are running brakes they are gonna look like s**t in about 2 rides. The brake pad markings will upset you I promise. You could go with machined sidewalls on the white rims, but brakes on white paint...... NFG! I have run Mavic CXP33's with Phil Wood 36 hole HF hubs and love them. Just my 2 cents. Have fun with the build
I'm going to go with a machined side wall.
freeskihp
03-18-08, 05:13 PM
Tacky? White wheels are look awesome. I think White tires are lame.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3215/2315105097_ea5fa76606.jpg?v=0
those are tackier than a superglued thumbtack
OPs have the advantage because they are eyeleted and better quality which contributes to a longer lasting rim over the aerohead
hmm, I've heard mixed reviews on eyelets. Going that route I'd probably get DT 1.1s. I have heard (a few years ago) that Velocity's QC process could be better and to try to buy Velocitys in person so you can pick one out.
Here's why Velocity wins though: Deep V's come in white. ;)
. . . For the wheels I'm looking for a white set with a higher profile than normal but I'm also opened to normal profiles, as long as they are white. . .
I am on a lonely quest to demote the popularity of the deep v rim. Don't do it. They look ok on some builds, but in the main I think they are overkill and add unnecessary weigh (and fashion). Plus, if you want to swap them to another bike your whole color scheme may be ruined. I would be more inclined to go with something like the aerohead or DT Swiss.
freeskihp
03-18-08, 05:47 PM
I mean, I guess white rims are still kind of en vouge right? Get some wheels that you can actually put on another bike
http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/news/images/L1020782_hi.jpg
Gyeswho
03-18-08, 05:51 PM
silver remains the most universal of rim color choices since you it goes with everything. Silver wheels would balance out the color scheme since you'd have some sillver bits showing throughout the build
OPs have the advantage because they are eyeleted and better quality which contributes to a longer lasting rim over the aerohead
I've seen plenty of spokes pull through eyeleted rims, they just pull out around a slightly larger circle. Velocity rims are thicker around where the nipple is, does the same thing as an eyelet.
OP go with Phil Wood track hubs, their seals are better than most road hubs.
Also, deep section rims if you weigh more than ~180, ride on really ****ty roads, or like how they look.
drainyoo
03-18-08, 06:02 PM
I've seen plenty of spokes pull through eyeleted rims, they just pull out around a slightly larger circle. Velocity rims are thicker around where the nipple is, does the same thing as an eyelet.
OP go with Phil Wood track hubs, their seals are better than most road hubs.
Also, deep section rims if you weigh more than ~180, ride on really ****ty roads, or like how they look.
I weight 200lbs and I do rid of bad roads. I also want to the Wood hubs. As of now the wheelset I want is Deep V rims, black spokes and white Phil Wood hubs.
Gyeswho
03-18-08, 06:05 PM
whatever you choose it'll still look cool. Use this program to help you get an idea of what you want to do with your bike
http://www.pedalmafia.com/mafid/mafia_id.html
freeskihp
03-18-08, 06:07 PM
I weight 200lbs and I do rid of bad roads. I also want to the Wood hubs. As of now the wheelset I want is Deep V rims, black spokes and white Phil Wood hubs.
red white and black?
are you ****ing Yemen?
drainyoo
03-18-08, 06:09 PM
those are tackier than a superglued thumbtack
To each his own.
drainyoo
03-18-08, 06:14 PM
I mean, I guess white rims are still kind of en vouge right? Get some wheels that you can actually put on another bike
http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/news/images/L1020782_hi.jpg
Are you refering to those bare silver ones? Awful.
Look at how sick this bike is with white wheels.
http://velospace.org/files/pistaconceptdock71507.jpg
drainyoo
03-18-08, 06:15 PM
red white and black?
are you ****ing Yemen?
You have issues with Red, White and Black? You're a lost cause.
drainyoo
03-18-08, 06:47 PM
whatever you choose it'll still look cool. Use this program to help you get an idea of what you want to do with your bike
http://www.pedalmafia.com/mafid/mafia_id.html
That app is great. Thanks.
drainyoo
03-18-08, 06:49 PM
So I think I have my wheels picked and I think I'm going to go with the Miche crank but I have a question about the BB. I want to use a Campy or a Phil Wood BB, will I be able to do this with the MIche crank?
Gyeswho
03-18-08, 06:51 PM
You'll get by fine; make sure its a 107mm BB
drainyoo
03-18-08, 07:07 PM
Perfect thanks. I think I'm set on the other components. The only thing left to decide on is whether I want to go with drop bars or bullhorns.
drainyoo
03-18-08, 07:17 PM
I can't seem to find any BB by Campy or Phil Wood that come in 107mm. Damn.
Gyeswho
03-18-08, 07:25 PM
then miche BB it is. it's a pretty easy BB to install.
handlebar choice is very personal. I prefer a horn to drops because I live in an area where I need to climb alot so it gives me the best leverage for the job along with a nice assortment of hand positions
drainyoo
03-18-08, 07:28 PM
then miche BB it is. it's a pretty easy BB to install.
handlebar choice is very personal. I prefer a horn to drops because I live in an area where I need to climb alot so it gives me the best leverage for the job along with a nice assortment of hand positions
It definitely is personally. I'm also installing both brakes so I have to consider that as well.
AS for the BB, I've been reading mixed reviews on the Miche BB. Some say it's good, some don't.
marqueemoon
03-18-08, 09:56 PM
Miche hubs are nice but kinda heavy.
Sugino 75 cranks
Cane Creek SCR-5 levers on road drops.
drainyoo
03-18-08, 09:57 PM
Miche hubs are nice but kinda heavy.
Sugino 75 cranks
Cane Creek SCR-5 levers on road drops.
Can Creek? Interesting. No Campy levers?
marqueemoon
03-18-08, 10:00 PM
Can Creek? Interesting. No Campy levers?
If you're not shifting why spend the money? Save money/weight elsewhere.
drainyoo
03-18-08, 10:05 PM
If you're not shifting why spend the money? Save money/weight elsewhere.
I totally forgot that I'm not shifting. Ha! Still getting use to the SS thing.
Can Creek the only company that makes just brake levers?
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