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Anyone have any experience with these? it seems like a great idea. my only concern is that my frame might be too small (49cm).

http://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FFP

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Anyone have any experience with these? it seems like a great idea. my only concern is that my frame might be too small (49cm).

http://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FFP

a friend of mine tried it out on a brevet series last year and said that the bag bulged in such a way that it excacerbated his IT band issues because he kept on swinging his knees out to avoid brushing up against the bag. Also said that he had to swap out his bottle cages since the bag makes it impossible to mount a cage on the down tube and it's difficult to pick up a bottle on the seat tube. He wound up going with two bottle holders behind the saddle.

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I have one, but have only used it a modest amount. Maybe a total of 1000 miles of riding. I bought it because the combination of luggage items that I was using just didn't have quite enough room for what I needed (I was using an Arkel tailrider and a hydration pack).

My frame is a 58, which is big enough that the JandD doesn't interfere with a water bottle. What I carried in the JandD was my wallet, brevet card, and cell phone, innertube, multitool, and "50 miles worth" of food. With that load all pushed up toward the front, and the zipper tabs pulled to the front of their tracks, I didn't have any interference with my knees. Standing on hills I would brush the JandD, but not in a bothersome way.

Ultimately, I've settled on my preferred luggage, which is a Carradice saddle bag, LonePeak handlebar bag, and a Bento box. Given that I have plenty of storage space in the two bags, the JandD isn't all that much useful to justify its 5 ounces of extra weight. It's handy in the back of the tandem, though, as a ditty bag for the stoker.

Nick

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FYI, it is too small for my frame (49 cm)