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The 10 Most Prophetic Sci-Fi Movies Ever
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biffstephens
I love Sci-Fi...the possibilities are so endless.
I thought Gattaca was a great hardcore Sci-Fi flick....
Logan's Run? For the time was very thought provoking, remember the laser surgery scene? Good stuff!!!
There was this old Sci-Fi show that was produced in Canada....people were in a ship but they did not know it....there were a bunch of pods and each pod was a different culture..I only saw a few but I thought is was a great show....although not a movie I think....
:)
Stargate SG1 was my lastest addiction...I am watching old Voyager's now.
I thought Gattaca was a great hardcore Sci-Fi flick....
Logan's Run? For the time was very thought provoking, remember the laser surgery scene? Good stuff!!!
There was this old Sci-Fi show that was produced in Canada....people were in a ship but they did not know it....there were a bunch of pods and each pod was a different culture..I only saw a few but I thought is was a great show....although not a movie I think....
:)
Stargate SG1 was my lastest addiction...I am watching old Voyager's now.
oscaregg
Don't like Sci Fi movies, but as for books....Farenheit 451 gets truer and truer all the time. I reread it about every five years and it just gets scarier.
asabike
soylent green
lotek
I have a feeling that the whole Mad Maxx series is becoming closer to the truth given
the current spate of gas prices.
the current spate of gas prices.
TheFountain
Hands down, The Exorcist.
late
1) It's goofy restricting this to movies. How the hell can you have a discussion of prophetic scifi and not mention HG Wells talking about going to the Moon? Or Clarke talking about using sattelites for communication?
2) I found Gattaca annoying. We already have a class system witha decreasing amount of social mobility. You don't need high tech to create what we already have. I also found the murder part of the plot disingenouous. The kid did it.
3) Scifi movies are mostly fluff. I like them anyway, but they go very light on the sci and overboard on the fi.. One of my favorites is Contact. Never thought I'd see a movie in which the politics of science played a central role.
4) A lot of scifi whirls around genetic issues. One of my favorites is Beggars in Spain by Nancy Kress.
5) The future is unpredictable. The internet was a real surprise. Marshall McLuhan talked about a global village, but I doubt he had anything this literal in mind.
6) You have to want Space. The down payment is appropriately astronomical. It's also inevitable. We need energy, resources, and room. The only place left is up. It took about 144 years from the discovery of the New World to the first colony. Because the investment is so much greater, I think it will take about 50% longer. So somewhere around 2168 (give or take a century) we will start moving into Space in earnest.
2) I found Gattaca annoying. We already have a class system witha decreasing amount of social mobility. You don't need high tech to create what we already have. I also found the murder part of the plot disingenouous. The kid did it.
3) Scifi movies are mostly fluff. I like them anyway, but they go very light on the sci and overboard on the fi.. One of my favorites is Contact. Never thought I'd see a movie in which the politics of science played a central role.
4) A lot of scifi whirls around genetic issues. One of my favorites is Beggars in Spain by Nancy Kress.
5) The future is unpredictable. The internet was a real surprise. Marshall McLuhan talked about a global village, but I doubt he had anything this literal in mind.
6) You have to want Space. The down payment is appropriately astronomical. It's also inevitable. We need energy, resources, and room. The only place left is up. It took about 144 years from the discovery of the New World to the first colony. Because the investment is so much greater, I think it will take about 50% longer. So somewhere around 2168 (give or take a century) we will start moving into Space in earnest.
jsharr
Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure should be on that list. Laugh now, but when Wyld Stallyons bring about World Peace, remember this post.
Maelstrom
5) The future is unpredictable. The internet was a real surprise. Marshall McLuhan talked about a global village, but I doubt he had anything this literal in mind.
The popularity maybe. It definitely went from the elite few to the global village, but a lot of us were using the "internet" for communication long before the internet became a buzzword.
And really, we just call it the internet, how far off is it from lots of sci fi movies where communication and database storage were large parts of the theme. I agree, there is no literal comparison but most early sci fi had something we can look back and say "oh look, that could be early internet" I know I have gone back and watched some of the earlier stuff and thought that.
I think the biggest difference between what sci fi saw as future communication and what it ended up being was the absolute chaos of the internet vs the controlled perception of what communication would become.
The next biggest difference would be the idea of information storage. In most movies it was centralized in one large database, no one ever assumed the communication superhighway would be completely decentralized.
Guess I am not arguing the point completely, just saying that I can see parallels between what was written (in movies or otherwise) and what has happened.
3) Scifi movies are mostly fluff. I like them anyway, but they go very light on the sci and overboard on the fi.. One of my favorites is Contact. Never thought I'd see a movie in which the politics of science played a central role.
They have to, the general populace gets very lost when you start referencing "sci" unless it is in fact based on "fi"...science fiction movies that base anything on true science and/or theory, end up coming across as flat. I enjoy them, but then again I like "sci"...
I like almost any sci fi movies, except the ones that are soooo far out there its beyond ridiculous (none come to mind I might add). I also don't dislike a lot of sci fi movies born from books. I can accept the movies differences from the books. I usually accept them as two different stories with aligning plots. Helps me get through the worst of the movies :D
The popularity maybe. It definitely went from the elite few to the global village, but a lot of us were using the "internet" for communication long before the internet became a buzzword.
And really, we just call it the internet, how far off is it from lots of sci fi movies where communication and database storage were large parts of the theme. I agree, there is no literal comparison but most early sci fi had something we can look back and say "oh look, that could be early internet" I know I have gone back and watched some of the earlier stuff and thought that.
I think the biggest difference between what sci fi saw as future communication and what it ended up being was the absolute chaos of the internet vs the controlled perception of what communication would become.
The next biggest difference would be the idea of information storage. In most movies it was centralized in one large database, no one ever assumed the communication superhighway would be completely decentralized.
Guess I am not arguing the point completely, just saying that I can see parallels between what was written (in movies or otherwise) and what has happened.
3) Scifi movies are mostly fluff. I like them anyway, but they go very light on the sci and overboard on the fi.. One of my favorites is Contact. Never thought I'd see a movie in which the politics of science played a central role.
They have to, the general populace gets very lost when you start referencing "sci" unless it is in fact based on "fi"...science fiction movies that base anything on true science and/or theory, end up coming across as flat. I enjoy them, but then again I like "sci"...
I like almost any sci fi movies, except the ones that are soooo far out there its beyond ridiculous (none come to mind I might add). I also don't dislike a lot of sci fi movies born from books. I can accept the movies differences from the books. I usually accept them as two different stories with aligning plots. Helps me get through the worst of the movies :D
Maelstrom
A quick point, (a lot of the points were ok but one I think they missed the boat on)
video phones - this is a north american perspective. And very soon, I hope, to be beaten down. We don't do video because our providers charge a FORTUNE for data transfer and our data transfer speeds are limited by the type of wireless our providers have generally decided to provide us. This will happen with time and as the "small" technology catches up. It is already happening with Tv over phone (GSM network with the faster transmitting speeds), rogers is offering this at a decent price (corporate) and you can even watch 20 or 30 tv stations. I wouldn't say this is undecided, I would say it is late to the party.
I think the human factor has very little to do with why it hasn't happened. We can blame the providers in north america for this one.
video phones - this is a north american perspective. And very soon, I hope, to be beaten down. We don't do video because our providers charge a FORTUNE for data transfer and our data transfer speeds are limited by the type of wireless our providers have generally decided to provide us. This will happen with time and as the "small" technology catches up. It is already happening with Tv over phone (GSM network with the faster transmitting speeds), rogers is offering this at a decent price (corporate) and you can even watch 20 or 30 tv stations. I wouldn't say this is undecided, I would say it is late to the party.
I think the human factor has very little to do with why it hasn't happened. We can blame the providers in north america for this one.
late
The popularity maybe. It definitely went from the elite few to the global village, but a lot of us were using the "internet" for communication long before the internet became a buzzword.
And really, we just call it the internet, how far off is it from lots of sci fi movies where communication and database storage were large parts of the theme. I agree, there is no literal comparison but most early sci fi had something we can look back and say "oh look, that could be early internet" I know I have gone back and watched some of the earlier stuff and thought that.
I think the biggest difference between what sci fi saw as future communication and what it ended up being was the absolute chaos of the internet vs the controlled perception of what communication would become.
The next biggest difference would be the idea of information storage. In most movies it was centralized in one large database, no one ever assumed the communication superhighway would be completely decentralized.
Guess I am not arguing the point completely, just saying that I can see parallels between what was written (in movies or otherwise) and what has happened.
They have to, the general populace gets very lost when you start referencing "sci" unless it is in fact based on "fi"...science fiction movies that base anything on true science and/or theory, end up coming across as flat. I enjoy them, but then again I like "sci"...
I like almost any sci fi movies, except the ones that are soooo far out there its beyond ridiculous (none come to mind I might add). I also don't dislike a lot of sci fi movies born from books. I can accept the movies differences from the books. I usually accept them as two different stories with aligning plots. Helps me get through the worst of the movies :D
I find myself in the unusual position of agreeing with you... HOWEVER, I have a reputation to uphold and must do so in the most disagreeable manner possible.
You do understand my position, harrumph.
You are right about scifi and the internet. I think the speed at which it came about was the surprise. But other than that, yeah...
One detail tho... there have been some truly abysmal scifi movies. We are talking so bad I wish I could get them out of my head with a Roto-rooter.
I am thinking of Event Horizon in particular..
I don't mind if a movie like Fifth Element has a religious plot. I ain't fussy.
But if you are doing straight scifi and tease it along for an hour like you are about to do something really cool... and all you have to offer is 'The Debbil made me do it'... Well, that sucks.
Have you seen Firefly?
And really, we just call it the internet, how far off is it from lots of sci fi movies where communication and database storage were large parts of the theme. I agree, there is no literal comparison but most early sci fi had something we can look back and say "oh look, that could be early internet" I know I have gone back and watched some of the earlier stuff and thought that.
I think the biggest difference between what sci fi saw as future communication and what it ended up being was the absolute chaos of the internet vs the controlled perception of what communication would become.
The next biggest difference would be the idea of information storage. In most movies it was centralized in one large database, no one ever assumed the communication superhighway would be completely decentralized.
Guess I am not arguing the point completely, just saying that I can see parallels between what was written (in movies or otherwise) and what has happened.
They have to, the general populace gets very lost when you start referencing "sci" unless it is in fact based on "fi"...science fiction movies that base anything on true science and/or theory, end up coming across as flat. I enjoy them, but then again I like "sci"...
I like almost any sci fi movies, except the ones that are soooo far out there its beyond ridiculous (none come to mind I might add). I also don't dislike a lot of sci fi movies born from books. I can accept the movies differences from the books. I usually accept them as two different stories with aligning plots. Helps me get through the worst of the movies :D
I find myself in the unusual position of agreeing with you... HOWEVER, I have a reputation to uphold and must do so in the most disagreeable manner possible.
You do understand my position, harrumph.
You are right about scifi and the internet. I think the speed at which it came about was the surprise. But other than that, yeah...
One detail tho... there have been some truly abysmal scifi movies. We are talking so bad I wish I could get them out of my head with a Roto-rooter.
I am thinking of Event Horizon in particular..
I don't mind if a movie like Fifth Element has a religious plot. I ain't fussy.
But if you are doing straight scifi and tease it along for an hour like you are about to do something really cool... and all you have to offer is 'The Debbil made me do it'... Well, that sucks.
Have you seen Firefly?
Maelstrom
:)...
I think I have voided event horizon from my memory, on purpose.
I agree, movies like fifth element, as long as they don't have the arrogance to come across as more sci than fi are good. Its when the movie takes itself seriously, then ends up coming short that I begin a true distaste for it.
Heck I am reading a book right now that is tweeking my interest based purely on how....odd it is. Greek mythology in the 21st century. I just picked it up, I can't figure out which direction it is planning to go yet. (only 50 pages in)...
No I haven't seen firefly, I don't think firefly has shown up here yet, and if it did, I missed it. I hear it is downright awesome though.
I think I have voided event horizon from my memory, on purpose.
I agree, movies like fifth element, as long as they don't have the arrogance to come across as more sci than fi are good. Its when the movie takes itself seriously, then ends up coming short that I begin a true distaste for it.
Heck I am reading a book right now that is tweeking my interest based purely on how....odd it is. Greek mythology in the 21st century. I just picked it up, I can't figure out which direction it is planning to go yet. (only 50 pages in)...
No I haven't seen firefly, I don't think firefly has shown up here yet, and if it did, I missed it. I hear it is downright awesome though.
LastPlace
This is an old thread that got resurrected but.............
One of my favorites is 'The Day The Earth Stood Still'.
To me it is just as valid as it was in 1951, but I hope it is not 'Prophetic'...........
If two people are standing in a room, knee deep in gasoline, it really doesn't matter who strikes the first match, the outcome is still the same.
Now, instead of two people with gas.........or nukes.......we probably have close to ten nations with the ability to incinerate the earth.
One of my favorites is 'The Day The Earth Stood Still'.
To me it is just as valid as it was in 1951, but I hope it is not 'Prophetic'...........
If two people are standing in a room, knee deep in gasoline, it really doesn't matter who strikes the first match, the outcome is still the same.
Now, instead of two people with gas.........or nukes.......we probably have close to ten nations with the ability to incinerate the earth.
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