Matrix # 3.

[SD Fixed]

Don't spoil the ending. I don't care to hear if it sucked. If you haven't seen it, don't post...

I want to know if it's rated R because of violence... or if there is sexual content. I have an 9 year old daughter who I'd like to take to, but am not willing to talk birds and bees to in the middle of the movie, or in context of the movie..

So if you've seen it, pleaes let me know!

[SirSpinsalot]

I just read a review that said it is R for violence and some sexual content. The rest of the review convinced me to wait for the DVD.

[SD Fixed]

So you haven't seen it then?

[SirSpinsalot]

No, sorry about that.

[SD Fixed]

No, sorry about that.

That's ok. If anyone does see it tonight, let me know.

[spazegun2213]

Saw it at 9AM today, it was more plot than fighting.. but still VERY GOOD!!!!

[SD Fixed]

Were there any adult reproductive scenes? How graphic..?

[Allister]

What, so you're ok with your daughter seeing R rated violence, but not a bit of sweaty flesh doing the naughty? That's f*cked up dude.

Will they even let a 9yo into the theatre showing an R rated film? If they do it kind of makes a mockery of the rating system no?

[SD Fixed]

What, so you're ok with your daughter seeing R rated violence, but not a bit of sweaty flesh doing the naughty? That's f*cked up dude.


Allister do you have children? I wonder. I checked, and you do. I guess your children must grow up in a very perfect world. Boys or girls? You have two I see.

At a very young age, I was exposed to violence on many levels. It has not affected my judgement. I can easily explain to my child about violence.. and explain it while we are at a movie. She has been around situations that were violent, and understands the difference between movies, and reality. Sex is a much more complicated subject, and really, needs a time set aside that is specific.

Thanks for not providing input, and for making a judgement call.

[Allister]

At a very young age, I was exposed to violence on many levels. It has not affected my judgement.

Hasn't it? It certainly seems to have affected your attitude towards exposing children to violence. I personally wouldn't take a 9yo to the Matrix movies, but then I'm one of those heretics that thinks that exposure to such things, especially in the formative years up to the age of 10 or 11, does have a detrimental effect.

I can easily explain to my child about violence.. and explain it while we are at a movie. She has been around situations that were violent, and understands the difference between movies, and reality. Sex is a much more complicated subject, and really, needs a time set aside that is specific.

Then why haven't you done it yet?

Thanks for not providing input, and for making a judgement call.

No judgment, just opinion.

[sscyco]

I saw it - I thought it sucked -

Anyway, there is a bit of nudity - but the blood factor and impaling objects is way more than the other two movies. I have 3 kids - my oldest 9 - I'll let him watch it. When he's 18. There's an "R" rating for a reason.

[pitboss]

Just got back...going again

[SD Fixed]

Then why haven't you done it yet?
With out dwelving to deep into my parenting methods.. of which you seem so highly critical from the outset, ready to judge, and unwilling to even wonder why..

We talk about sex, nudity, body parts, as the subjects come up. On the evening news, where sex is discussed very often, as is rape, etc, we talk about things as they come up. She will ask what something means, I'll explain it, and if she ask's more, I'll explain more. It something that I want her to be comfortable with, and be able to gain knowledge as she has curiousity.

I refuse to have the "sit down talk" that many parents do. To many times these turn into horrific embarassment situations.. as happen with many of my friends. There was some physic link between parents that determined that at 13 all parents should talk about sex... And give lectures as to what was right and wrong.. and leave it as a firm line. This led to many a phobia about homosexuality, lesbians, pre marital sex, etc amongst some of them.. that they probably have hang ups about today.

A person in my niegborhood is gay. My daughter heard from one of the nieghbor kids that "so and so is a carpet muncher". She came home that night and asked what that meant. So, we had pretty basic conversation about choices, and what the term meant. At some point, I could see she was getting uncomfortable, so I let up. But, she accepts the nieghbor as someone who's a nice person, but has different choices.

I'd like my duaghter to grow up tolerant of other lifestyles, and people who aren't in the mainstream. Explain sex, rape, and lifestyles in the context of what seen in a movie is not realistic, in my view.


No judgment, just opinion.Saying that's
"f*cuked up dude" sure seems judgemental.

Violence is very easy to explain. There are times when it's wrong, and times when it's right. There are levels to which things may be taken, and shouldn't be expected. When she saw a mugging in SF two years ago at the Bart station.. and saw her dad get involved... I told her about violence, and weapons, etc. She has seem to accept my point of view; that violence in media is supposed to support telling the story, but the story isn't a reflection of life. Sometimes, you have to use force to prevent or stop something from happening. Many times, you can leave a situation with out anything happening.


She's a lot more peaceful than I. I am in the military (US Navy), and she (at 9) didn't like the idea of a war. She wanted to go to a war rally to say "stop the war". I escorted her there, and we both walked.

You should open your mind a little. Not everything works the way you think.

[MikeR]

I want to know if it's rated R because of violence... or if there is sexual content.

I find our standards for movies strange. You* can't show a woman’s breast - but you can cut it off with a chainsaw.

*(no reflection on anyone in particular – just our society in general)

[cycletourist]

I saw it last night at the Imax. They never explained why Neo has supernatural powers outside of the matrix. Whatever happened to suspension of disbelief? What a waste of money.

[Raiyn]

Thanks for the spoiler :rolleyes:

[Chi]

Ha! I guess if you're not looking for spoilers, you shouldn't read this thread. :p I need to go see it though ...

[JasBike]

I'll let him watch it. When he's 18. There's an "R" rating for a reason.





Was that a joke?

[sscyco]

Was that a joke?

Nope.

[cycletourist]

Well, so far most of my friends have seen Matrix 3 and all called it a let down. No explanation why Neo has supernatural powers outside the matrix. No explanation why Agent Smith (a computer program) could leave the matrix.

I have seen lame movies before so this shouldn't bother me. Except that I spent almost $30 on tickets and popcorn. It's too bad I can't call Fishburn, Reeves, et al and ask for a refund :-)

[SD Fixed]

There's an "R" rating for a reason.

:rolleyes:
DBP.

[georgesnatcher]

Excuse my ignorance but...what is DBP?

[Allister]

Well, so far most of my friends have seen Matrix 3 and all called it a let down.

The only way a movie can be a let down is if you think you know what it's going to be like before you enter the theatre.

I caught it on the weekend and thoroughly enjoyed it, although I did miss the techno/rock soundtrack of the original (as I did with Reloaded). But then, I didn't have any investment in how the story was going to unfold. Sure some things were left unresolved, but I'm ok with that. If everything was answered there'd be nothing to talk and argue about after it had finished, and where's the fun in that?

[sscyco]

Excuse my ignorance but...what is DBP?

Since it was directed at me, I'd like to know as well.

[Maelstrom]

I saw it last night at the Imax. They never explained why Neo has supernatural powers outside of the matrix. Whatever happened to suspension of disbelief? What a waste of money.

Maybe leaving something for you to think about and not handing it on a plate. Leaving 2 or 3 different answers I can think of. Also if you haven't had a chance watch animatrix which explain some history and some of the future.

I am sorry but (and this is not directed at you, cycle directly) but people in general have gotten lazy with movies. This series is incredible but the entire plot is not handed to you (thank god). The action is, but all of the answers aren't. This series was incredible and I found it to be one of the best sets of movies in a long time. I love the fact that they left things hanging and commend them on that step. They developed a 'book' live (as live as movies can be), not just another action flick. It is unfortunate that they were told they wouldn't be able to make other movies beyond 1 so they 'ended' it in part 1, which kind of ruined the flow.

William,

There is virtually no sexual content to speak of. A kiss and some loving looks but nothing overtly sexual. If I had a child (and I don't) AND I knew full well he/she understood fantasy and reality I would not have any issues bringing him/her to this movie. I also fully understand where you are coming from on this issue.

[lotek]

Here's what I got on it:

DPB: /d*-pib'/ vt. [from the PDP-10 instruction set] To plop something down in the middle. Usage: silly. "DPB yourself into that couch there." The connotation would be that the couch is full except for one slot just big enough for one last person to sit in. DPB means `DePosit Byte', and was the name of a PDP-10 instruction that inserts some bits into the middle of some other bits. Hackish usage has been kept alive by the Common LISP function of the same name.

Marty

[SD Fixed]

Nope.

Well, raise your kid, I'll raise mine.

And if mine turns out to be a violent phsyco path.. yours will just be fodder for the kill count on the news.

:D

Pleasant thoughts, really!

[SD Fixed]

If everything was answered there'd be nothing to talk and argue about after it had finished, and where's the fun in that?

That's the way I felt about AI.. they answered every possible question about what happens next.. it just kept going and you left thinking.. nothing.

Good movie, but it dried itself out.

[Allister]

That's the way I felt about AI.. they answered every possible question about what happens next.. it just kept going and you left thinking.. nothing.

Good movie, but it dried itself out.

I believe Brian Aldiss washed his hands of all involvment in the project when Speilberg got fixated on the whole Pinocchio (sp?) myth. I must get around to reading his original story. Thanks for the reminder.

And yeah, it did drag on a bit and was all tied up in a neat little bow in the end, but that's Speilberg for you. I agree - good movie, but it left you with nothing to guess at.

Have you seen Cube? Now there's a sci-fi movie that leaves you wondering. Excellent stuff.

[sscyco]

Well, raise your kid, I'll raise mine.

And if mine turns out to be a violent phsyco path.. yours will just be fodder for the kill count on the news.

:D

Pleasant thoughts, really!

My kids are already violent sscycopaths - my challenge is to show them how it's done right, not how it's portrayed by Hollywood.

[Anders K]

I think Violence is never right, just more or less wrong.
This is a very complex matter where there is no cleraly right or wrong. It all depends on factors like the childs state of maturity, experience and grade of reason. In real life ugly things happen and sooner or later the child has to deal with that. In what age is due to the factors just mentioned and will vary between differend childs.
Generally I would say that these things comes in a natural way into the life of an upgrowing individual and that these violent movies really can´t be justified to show to children below the rated age.

[The Rob]

Saw it. Liked it. Cartoon violence for the most part, no projectile guts. I would ask "Why, in the desperate struggle for the survival of humankind, does it seem such a high priority to dress cool? If I know that I'll have to spend a lot of the time running on the walls and ceiling with both fists full of gun, why would I choose to wear patent leather and a long flappy coat?".

Good movie. Good as the first one? No. How could it be?

[SD Fixed]

Have you seen Cube? Now there's a sci-fi movie that leaves you wondering. Excellent stuff.

No, but I've wondered about it. I'll have to give it a try.

[turtle]

Better than the 2nd (Couldn't be worse) but still not the film I was hoping it would be.

Didn't think the Cube was that special either to be honest.