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flyboy9503
07-17-08, 08:36 PM
glad you are comfortable right now by your own choice. will you be as comfortable wearing a helmet skiing
and tobogganing and skateboarding and are you willing to pay a fine if you are caught without one. do
you value your freedom or is the gov't your boss!

flyboy9503
07-17-08, 08:41 PM
read all of your propaganda. how about the lives that helmets didn't save. always 2 sides to the story.
the manufacturers are getting rich at the expense of our freedom of choice. cycling is not dangerous
more people are injured as pedestrians so how about controlling the pedestrians and write a report on it!

rbart4506
07-17-08, 09:20 PM
I like helmet....it keep skullcap in place...stop bald head from burning...

Now to the serious stuff...Get over it! Put the damn helmet on and ride! There's more important things in life to fight over...

InNeedOfAName
07-18-08, 08:15 PM
http://www.helmets.org/stats.htm

As much as I'd like to fight the powers that be, common sense suggests to me that a helmet may help reduce the likelihood that I will incur a brain injury. Or, should I take a severe blow to the head, I assume a helmet will reduce, to some extent, my chances of a severe brain injury.

As much as I like to style and profile I've yet to see compelling evidence to suggest that protection for my head increases my likelihood of receiving a brain injury should I take a blow to the cranium.

The government doesn't need to convince me to wear a helmet. It's common sense. I don't suppose I should say what I think about reasonable safety precautions and medical care.

Asymmetriad
07-20-08, 03:02 PM
I love to speed down a country road with the wind at my back as much as the next guy. But if I crashed and had to foot the med bill myself as well as fund the higher insurance premiums, you can be sure that I'd take it easier next time. But with socialized health care, there is no incentive to do so. An utterly contemptible situation.

Well, hmmm, yes indeed. After all, it's not as if people who haven't paid for their own health care experience pain or anything like that...[/sarcasm]

esaunders
07-20-08, 11:09 PM
read all of your propaganda. how about the lives that helmets didn't save. always 2 sides to the story.
the manufacturers are getting rich at the expense of our freedom of choice. cycling is not dangerous
more people are injured as pedestrians so how about controlling the pedestrians and write a report on it!

Propaganda?? :roflmao2::roflmao2::roflmao2::roflmao2: Published, peer-reviewed research references are propaganda? I take it back, you definitely don't need a helmet.

No piece of equipment saves everyone, freak accidents happen and often because equipment is not properly adjusted.

But there are proven truths
... Falling objects accelerate at 9.8 meters per second per second (Acceleration due to gravity)
... Force = mass X acceleration
... Objects traveling at a greater velocity before falling takes effect have a greater resultant acceleration at impact therefore hitting the ground with greater force
... When one's bare head hits the ground, the brain gets bounced around in the skull
... Minimizing the force transfer to the brain minimizes the amount of damage.

Basic physics doesn't have 2 sides, it just is.

J T CUNNINGHAM
08-26-08, 11:23 PM
Dave Freeman, an advertising agency executive who co-wrote "100 Things to Do Before You Die," an adventure-seeking and often unconventional travel guide that personified the way he lived his life, has died. He was 47.

Freeman died Aug. 17 after falling and hitting his head at his home in Venice, said his father, Roy.


Time for the 'Nanny State', to start writing more laws again!


Regards,
J T

flyboy9503
09-02-08, 07:03 PM
20 american states do not require helmets for motorcycles. now that is freedom of choice. aren't you
smarter than the government or should they run your personal affairs?

flyboy9503
09-02-08, 07:12 PM
Propaganda?? :roflmao2::roflmao2::roflmao2::roflmao2: Published, peer-reviewed research references are propaganda? I take it back, you definitely don't need a helmet.

No piece of equipment saves everyone, freak accidents happen and often because equipment is not properly adjusted.

But there are proven truths
... Falling objects accelerate at 9.8 meters per second per second (Acceleration due to gravity)
... Force = mass X acceleration
... Objects traveling at a greater velocity before falling takes effect have a greater resultant acceleration at impact therefore hitting the ground with greater force
... When one's bare head hits the ground, the brain gets bounced around in the skull
... Minimizing the force transfer to the brain minimizes the amount of damage.

Basic physics doesn't have 2 sides, it just is.

how many times do you expect to hit your head on the pavement while cycling. maybe better
training is needed for those at high risk!

flyboy9503
09-02-08, 07:17 PM
Dave Freeman, an advertising agency executive who co-wrote "100 Things to Do Before You Die," an adventure-seeking and often unconventional travel guide that personified the way he lived his life, has died. He was 47.

Freeman died Aug. 17 after falling and hitting his head at his home in Venice, said his father, Roy.


Time for the 'Nanny State', to start writing more laws again!


Regards,
J Tnd

any law can be justified by any government but look around to see if the people embrace it. i see
a lot of kids not wearing helmets in ontario because the parents don't agree with the law. we should
be infomed about what helmets could do and make our own choice.

IronMac
09-03-08, 05:01 AM
i see a lot of kids not wearing helmets in ontario because the parents don't agree with the law.

Maybe they should read up on this latest study?

http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2008/08/29/bike-law.html#socialcomments

And how do you know that those parents don't agree with the law? Maybe they're just ignorant?

IronMac
09-03-08, 05:26 AM
and that is the point it should be our choice to wear or not to wear! are we adults or just imbisols to have all of our decisions made for us.

Frankly, your entire argument as far as I can tell is simply philosophical. Oh sure, you try to trot out "statistics" and "facts" but, *shrug*, your mind is made up. If there was undeniable, incontrovertible (sp?) proof that helmets saved lives in each and every accident that involved head injuries you'd still be against any sort of bike helmet law.

I'm not going to participate any further in this thread, doing so would simply be a case of insanity. :rolleyes:

mikesdca
09-03-08, 05:41 AM
bbgobie said what I was about to say.

Feel free not to wear a helmet, but don't expect any taxpayer funds or insurance payments (since your claims will raise other people's rates) if you break your head open. That includes long-term disability insurance and welfare to support you or your family when you're a vegetable. You reimburse the fire department for the cost of the EMTs to come scrape you off the road.

Preach it! I`d go even further. In cases of auto vs. cyclist accidents, I`d like medical care to be denied if two or more `on scene` witnesses saw the cyclist run a stop sign or red light. Helmet or no helmet, no way do I want to be paying to save the life of such a stupid, reckless individual.

Turd Ferguson
09-03-08, 08:58 PM
20 american states do not require helmets for motorcycles. now that is freedom of choice. aren't you
smarter than the government or should they run your personal affairs?


The government is doing you a favor, you just can't realize it.

geranimo57
09-09-08, 08:26 PM
Do not legislate my safety due to ignorance. Let those who ride decide. If the rider is not confident in their ability or simply feels better wearing a device so be it. I have been riding motorcycles and bicycles for close to 50 years. Over 500,000 miles on motorcycles and mostly without helmets, I have had numerous “accidents”, been hit by a car and have been lucky enough to survive. It all comes down to fate. A silly piece plastic on your head is not going to make a difference in most cases.
Here is an interesting study, many more where this comes from….
http://www.bikersrights.com/statistics/goldstein/goldstein2.html

http://home.tampabay.rr.com/ourplace/Biker/facts.htm

TimsterT.
09-09-08, 10:24 PM
I almost always wear one but I am against this law! sign me up fot the protest.

Turd Ferguson
09-10-08, 10:48 PM
Do not legislate my safety due to ignorance. Let those who ride decide. If the rider is not confident in their ability or simply feels better wearing a device so be it. I have been riding motorcycles and bicycles for close to 50 years. Over 500,000 miles on motorcycles and mostly without helmets, I have had numerous “accidents”, been hit by a car and have been lucky enough to survive. It all comes down to fate. A silly piece plastic on your head is not going to make a difference in most cases.
Here is an interesting study, many more where this comes from….
http://www.bikersrights.com/statistics/goldstein/goldstein2.html

http://home.tampabay.rr.com/ourplace/Biker/facts.htm

too late.