Track Cycling: Velodrome Racing and Training Area - 3rensho made Specialized Allez track frame?

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Does anyone know for sure about the truth in this? I just bought a frame on ebay that claims it was a 3rensho made specialized and was wondering if there was any definitive way to confirm this. Here is a link to the auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250231838033
If anyone knows how to identify the year of the frame I would be interested in that as well.
Thanks!
andre nickatina
04-05-08, 05:54 PM
Post in vintage bike section, they'll probably know.
For the record, 3Rensho DID make some very early Specialized Allez models, so the guy isn't pulling this info out of thin air. Judging by the lugs I'd make a guess that it's a 3Rensho but my opinion is moot as I am no vintage expert...
San Rensho
04-06-08, 07:17 AM
Does anyone know for sure about the truth in this? I just bought a frame on ebay that claims it was a 3rensho made specialized and was wondering if there was any definitive way to confirm this. Here is a link to the auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250231838033
If anyone knows how to identify the year of the frame I would be interested in that as well.
Thanks!
Ask Andy Muzi at yellowjersey.org. He was the importer of San Renshos and is otherwise the guru of all things San Rensho.
bonechilling
04-06-08, 01:19 PM
That frame went for surprisingly little.
JACQU3S
05-01-08, 07:23 PM
That frame went for surprisingly little.
Specialized aint hip for the street.
It is true. I have two 3Rensho's, and an Allez Specialized Track bike. I can not speak for the road bike, but the lug's& dropouts for the Allez, and the my older 3Rensho are identical. Yoshi Kono was hired to build the Allez in the early 80's because Specialized was in Japan at that time.
bradenCBC
08-02-08, 08:40 PM
There you have it... I wasn't bull****tin.
jar2321
11-01-10, 02:29 PM
Just found your query,
San Rensho made the 1983 Allez, mostly road frames, they also made something like a dozen or two track frames.
They are the only Specialized track frames made in the 80s. They had Campy drop outs and if the fork is original, it should have an offset fork crown.
I've had one for 25 years and love it.
jr
San Rensho
11-02-10, 07:14 AM
Just found your query,
San Rensho made the 1983 Allez, mostly road frames, they also made something like a dozen or two track frames.
They are the only Specialized track frames made in the 80s. They had Campy drop outs and if the fork is original, it should have an offset fork crown.
I've had one for 25 years and love it.
jr
Halloween was 2 days ago, but good info nonetheless.
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