fordfasterr
04-15-08, 10:28 AM
I just wanted to let (those who may be interested) people know that in FL, you can't get points on your license for any ticket you get while riding a bicycle.
I found the info here. (http://www.dot.state.fl.us/safety/ped_bike/brochures/pdf/FBLEG%202007-07.pdf)
Points are not assigned to the driver's license of a
person who committed a violation while driving a
bicycle. Points apply only to motor vehicle operation
[§322.27(3)(i)].
QUOTE from the actual FL Statutes says:
"322.27(3)(i) This subsection shall not apply to persons operating a nonmotorized vehicle for which a driver's license is not required."
San Rensho
04-15-08, 11:31 AM
I just wanted to let (those who may be interested) people know that in FL, you can't get points on your license for any ticket you get while riding a bicycle.
I found the info here. (http://www.dot.state.fl.us/safety/ped_bike/brochures/pdf/FBLEG%202007-07.pdf)
Good info, thanks.
Allister
04-15-08, 06:42 PM
It's only logical, really.
San Rensho
04-15-08, 07:30 PM
It's only logical, really.
Nothing is logical in Florida! In Florida, an employer can tell you you can't smoke (even off the clock at home) as a condition of employment, that you can't ride a motorcycle, even off the clock, or you lose your job, but he CANNOT tell you that if you bring a gun to work, he will fire you. Hows that for logic.
Allister
04-15-08, 08:07 PM
Nothing is logical in Florida! In Florida, an employer can tell you you can't smoke (even off the clock at home) as a condition of employment, that you can't ride a motorcycle, even off the clock, or you lose your job, but he CANNOT tell you that if you bring a gun to work, he will fire you. Hows that for logic.
LOL. Well, no place is perfect.
I just wanted to let (those who may be interested) people know that in FL, you can't get points on your license for any ticket you get while riding a bicycle. ...
... as it should be everywhere.
Nothing is logical in Florida! In Florida, an employer can tell you you can't smoke (even off the clock at home) as a condition of employment, that you can't ride a motorcycle, even off the clock, or you lose your job, but he CANNOT tell you that if you bring a gun to work, he will fire you. Hows that for logic.
While l will not argue against NY's old jew colony being screwed up, I will say this.
Those health concerns are just an effect of employer provided health care, should the company have to pay for perceived self inflicted health problems.
Your gun law reference I believe is misconstrued, I think it was illegal prior to bring a gun in public, outside of house and car (why local cars never get carjacked and out of state tags do frequently). So from my understanding the gun law just extended that option to the work place, unless the office, as private property, refused.
Cyclaholic
04-15-08, 09:27 PM
Nothing is logical in Florida! In Florida, an employer can tell you you can't smoke (even off the clock at home) as a condition of employment, that you can't ride a motorcycle, even off the clock, or you lose your job, but he CANNOT tell you that if you bring a gun to work, he will fire you. Hows that for logic.
Can they tell you that you can't ride your bicycle? :eek:
fordfasterr
04-16-08, 06:59 AM
While l will not argue against NY's old jew colony being screwed up, I will say this.
What is the "old jew colony" comment in reference to?
[QUOTE=Galls;6525774]While l will not argue against NY's old jew colony being screwed up, I will say this.
....QUOTE]
What is the "old jew colony" comment in reference to?
Florida is where we send our old Jews.
stonecrd
04-16-08, 07:43 AM
While l will not argue against NY's old jew colony being screwed up, I will say this.
Those health concerns are just an effect of employer provided health care, should the company have to pay for perceived self inflicted health problems.
Your gun law reference I believe is misconstrued, I think it was illegal prior to bring a gun in public, outside of house and car (why local cars never get carjacked and out of state tags do frequently). So from my understanding the gun law just extended that option to the work place, unless the office, as private property, refused.
To be more accurate, if you have a permit to carry a concealed weapon you may carry the weapon concealed in your car. Employers argued that you could not bring your concealed weapon and leave it in your car while parked on their private property. Now you may bring you gun and leave it in your car. You still don't have a right to wear it at work unless you employer agrees. So now the the bad guy knows he can steal your gun while you are at work from your car. It's the wild west down here.
Bummer. My guess is that rogue cyclists are also rogue drivers,.
Paul
Bummer. My guess is that rogue cyclists are also rogue drivers,.
Paul
That quite a generalization.
My biggest concern regarding points for cycling offenses is that many law enforcement officials are completely clueless regarding a cyclist's rights, including lane-taking, and responsibilities on the road. We also have to weigh the potential for harm, which increases with the mass and cross sectional area of the vehicle.
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What's next in North Carolina and Indiana, a pedestrian infraction add a point to one's driver's license?
gpsblake
04-16-08, 06:07 PM
I'll agree that points shouldn't be put on your D/L because of bicycling traffic violations. But I do believe the enforcement of traffic laws should apply equally to bikes as to cars. Meaning if you run a red light, you should receive the same fine (without the points) as a car. If we want to be treated as equals to cars on the road, then we need to be acting equal also.
rabidgoldfish
04-23-08, 11:17 PM
UPD (University of Florida Police Department) will give you the full fine. $123 for running a stop sign, from personal experience. I didn't know this at the time or else I would have contested it but default state fine for moving violations on a bike is $52. I also received a 50 some dollar fine for riding with no hands, but thats another story altogether.
bboysubhuman
04-24-08, 02:53 AM
you don't need a license to ride a bike. how can they give you points if you don't have one?
CommuterRun
04-24-08, 03:27 AM
Bummer. My guess is that rogue cyclists are also rogue drivers,.
Paul
If there were some way to prove that and it turned out to be true, it wouldn't surprise me at all. That's just one facet of the me-me-me self-centered mindset.
I-Like-To-Bike
04-24-08, 04:54 AM
you don't need a license to ride a bike. how can they give you points if you don't have one?
Believe it or not, many bicycle riders over 16 in the U.S. own and/or drive motor vehicles and therefore are required to have a driver's license. It is irrelevant that a bicyclist does not need that license on his person when bicycling. It is not necessary for a law officer to see the driver's license to use its number when writing a bicycling ticket. Dispatch Radios and computers in car can obtain that info.
The problem of assigning points is a non-issue only if the bicyclist doesn't have a driver's license at all or the state does not allow assigning points for traffic violation while bicycling.
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