Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - my future bike setup

frame: motobecane lolmessenger
headset: chris king
stem: i have no clue here. help?
handlebars: not sure on this yet either =/
grips: oury
crankset: 165 paul road cranks
bottom bracket: phil wood stainless steel
pedals: i need recommendations for some low profile pedals
toe straps: toshi double toe straps
wheels: aerospoke front and back
seatpost: no clue


so i need help and i'll number it for ease of use

1.) recommend a stem to me, i want drop handle bars
2.) what are some solid low profile pedals?
3.) seatpost recommendations. i'm not sure what saddle i want yet either
4.) do i have to buy a cog/lockring with aerospoke rear wheels?


i know a lot of this seems like overkill, but if someone can afford it, well why not?

i'd really like a pistaconcept frame but those seem a little bit difficult to come across these days =/

critique away, but please make it constructive, i'm extremely eager to learn.

i've had a lot of money sucking issues going on lately, but i'll be able to afford all components necessary by ~september and i'm just getting prepared in advanced


if i were to eventaully get a concept frame, wouldn't most of these parts be interchangable anyway?

Oh god.

MKS GR9 pedals with soma 4 gates
http://store.somafab.com/opfotoecl.html
http://store.somafab.com/mksgrtope.html

And this thread is a bad idea

Syntace Stem and KCNC post. Both light weight and easy to find.

Overkill is the only way to go.

im sorry. i have no lbs and no friends that ride

if forums are the only place to turn to, i'll try and take the flames

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That is dressing up a pig to an absurd degree. There are a ton of other frames out there that are nicer than the lolmessenger and are not a Concept.

the fact that he actually listed the grips he plans to use as a component of his "future bike setup" (compounded by the fact that they're oury) pretty much sums it all up.
question #4 supports everything quite nicely.

frame: motobecane lolmessenger Good idea.

headset: chris king Good idea. Just remember they're reverse threaded

stem: i have no clue here. help? I'd either go adjustable or Softride. Gotta look
flashy. Maybe powdercoat

handlebars: not sure on this yet either =/ Shorter the better. You need plenty of TT clearance.

grips: oury The pink ones are faster than the yellow ones.

crankset: 165 paul road cranks Too long. Look into BMX cranksets to completely eliminate toeverlap.

bottom bracket: phil wood stainless steel I'd personally go with something nicer. Octalinks are nice

pedals: i need recommendations for some low profile pedals Bebop

toe straps: toshi double toe straps Good idea. Will need modifications to work with the bebops

wheels: aerospoke front and back A deep V/formula in the back will definitely help with weight distribution.

seatpost: no clue Cervelo Carbon aero.


You'll need a seat too. I recommend NJS.

aerospokes and oury grips. you're on the right track, the rest doesn't matter anyway! ;)

this has to be a joke, but if you are looking to blow a budget why are you putting those components on a motobecane? get a custom frame or an overpriced vintage track frame.

he's doing it because he has absolutely no clue whatsoever. this is another case of "one buying before having any understanding of what it is one wants". remember, bikes are no longer machines of function-- they're accessories first.

the best part is that he actually thinks this is a high end build...

ed: interesting how ambitiously impulsive people get around tax season.

he's doing it because he has absolutely no clue whatsoever. this is another case of "one buying before having any understanding of what it is one wants". remember, bikes are no longer machines of function-- they're accessories first.

the best part is that he actually thinks this is a high end build...

ed: interesting how ambitiously impulsive people get around tax season.

I know right? I got my tax return back and went nuts. I paid the hell out of this medical bill from when I got crunched by a truck, and now I only owe like 1600 more bucks.

that is gonna be one gnarly build my man

I know right? I got my tax return back and went nuts. I paid the hell out of this medical bill from when I got crunched by a truck, and now I only owe like 1600 more bucks.

i can't wait to get my economic growth rebate so i can recoup some of the money i owed the irs this year. STOKED!

aerospokes and toshi's on a moto? seriously? take all the money you would spend on those unnessisary components, and put it into a better frame.

I do hope this was a joke...

why does anyone care about "future builds?" this is like listing future car "mods." NO ONE GIVES A **** WHAT YOU WANT TO BUY FOR YOUR BIKE OR CAR. if you don't have the bike, and you don't have the parts, then why bother with anything else?

i mean, i get excited about my current bianchi restoration, but i'm not about to type a list of parts i'm PLANNING on getting and then make a whole thread about it. why the **** would anyone care?

Oh BTW guys, I'm getting new shocks and springs for my Jeep next week. I'll post some pics.

bleh. i agree i have no clue, just as anyone else beginning a hobby. so what if i want to build it more aesthetically than anything. i've been reading the boards for weeks before i joined and have continued ever since then and i havent seem some of my questions answered elsewhere. such as the aerospoke/hub question. sure it's dumb, but i have to find out somewhere. i don't have the luxury of testing parts out before i get them, nor do i have someone else to either learn with/from here.

being a part of several forums, i understand how it goes and am definitely not trying to victimize myself. i realize it's a step to actually having a clue in making a bike. i'm glad i could give you guys some laughs, but i really have appreciated/would appreciate if you could give serious answers along with your laughs and sarcasm.

the only other hooby similar to this i've taken up is longboarding. i created dumb threads because i just didn't have a clue, but as time went on i received some answers that were helpful and eventually came to an understand of all parts, setups, etc. i realize it's the intrawebz and no one is personally attacking me.

being the only fixed gear rider in the two cities that i live allows me to be as flashy as i want. i want to be able to laugh and like my setup at the same time. i haven't heard of anyone putting aerospokes on a motobecane. i thought it'd be rather funny. as far as the concept goes, i know it's exrememly popular, especially in the poser category i'm destined to be in, but i just really like the look of it.

trust me, i've waited over a week to post this thread because of pride. i knew i'd have to learn someway though, so i went ahead with this lesson in humility.

as i've stated, i'm not surprised one bit at the responses and i already planned on writing a reply such as this after i created the thread. so i'm a nub in many senses of the word, to be sure, but i actually am rather eager to learn. i'll be sticking aroudn these boards and eventually be able to understand and discuss everything with a keen knowledge of what it is i'm talking about. unlike countless people i've seen on forums that leave after a dumb topic or two of getting flamed. i guess it's just a process and this is where i'm starting.

so once again, i don't mind all the comments, i'd do the same thing if someone posted the equivalent to this thread at silverfishlongboarding. i would like come help though. call me out and tell what exactly is wrong with everything, rather than summing it up in a word like loltardedthread or something.

so ya d:


edit@metaljim - i have the frame and i can begin ordering parts almost immediately. i won't have ALL of them til later, but i decided i need input before i start blowing large amounts of cash.

i mean, i get excited about my current bianchi restoration, but i'm not about to type a list of parts i'm PLANNING on getting and then make a whole thread about it. why the **** would anyone care?

i'm restoring (read: completely rebuilding from the ground up) my trek y-foil. we should start a current tasks and projects thread.

buying car

make: not sure yet
color: red (maybe yellow)
engine: fast...500 horse powers

i've been reading the boards for weeks before i joined and have continued ever since then and i havent seem some of my questions answered elsewhere.

liar of the year.

buying car

make: not sure yet
color: red (maybe yellow)
engine: fast...500 horse powers

You should by more horse powers. I think they make the car faster.

homesick, we're not making fun of you for not knowing what you're talking about - that describes like 3/4 of the posters here. We're making fun of you because the bike you described sounds ridiculous. It's called "putting the cart before the horse."

i guess to contribute something useful to this thread:

to answer the question about the rear arrospoke, maybe. if you buy them new, i'm guessing they dont come with a cog and a lockring, so you'd need to get those parts. if you bought the wheelset off ebay, it may come with a cog and a lockring, it may not.

to one their own, but i mean, i personally feel like you would be much better off with a better frame and maybe some open pros or something on it. you dont need arrospokes if youre running on the street...

I CAN HAZ AROSPOK?

jk. i just hope you dont end up on the "tarck jackass" thread later on.

to start with maybe don't put oury grips on drop handlebars. they sell crazy rolls (made of different materials. ie cork, cloth, leather, synthetic materials...)that you can wrap around the handlebars. it's amazing they provide a good solid gripping surface and allow for various hand positions on drops. Much cooler/ hipper than oury's

to start with maybe don't put oury grips on drop handlebars. they sell crazy rolls (made of different materials. ie cork, cloth, leather, synthetic materials...)that you can wrap around the handlebars. it's amazing they provide a good solid gripping surface and allow for various hand positions on drops. Much cooler/ hipper than oury's

Champ grips work well too, and they come in hipster pleasing colors:
http://reloadbags.com/bags/list.php?t=other

Champ grips work well too, and they come in hipster pleasing colors:
http://reloadbags.com/bags/list.php?t=other

and if i'm not they're also keirin!

just buy a custom bike already built. you are going to piece this thing together and it will look like it. please save starving children in africa before you put areospokes on your bike. i just saw my first areospoke in montana the other day...if the craze has finally hit here it is close to being over.

The most important question is can you do bar spinz and how do TT pad's and Knog Frog's look with it? thats why you ride a bike right?

reasonable, polite post

for us to really give you any useful advice (besides don't buy aerospokes) you should tell us what sort of riding you are going to be doing, honestly.

if you're just going to be doing a few miles at a time down to the bar or venue or school and back then things like "fit" and "comfort" aren't going to be as important.

i do a short commute to work everyday, do all my shopping and what not at college on it and just take random rides everyday for the fun of riding/escaping the indoors. aerodynamics obviously aren't a big deal. as far as fit/comfort go, i'm pretty sure anything's an improvement of what i have.

the idea of the bike is to be kinda outlandish in and of itself. as i stated, most of the choices are aesthetic. i might even post my own bike in the jackasposeur rather than in the regular picture link.


i guess more than anything, after looking through all the pages and pictures, i've found most of the stuff i like, and i just wanted suggestions for the things i haven't found yet. it's no coincedence that the parts that i don't particularly think "look cool" are the ones i'm asking for help on. i'll be the first (well actually like the 20th) person to call myself out on it being pretty effing ridiculous, but i'm not going for a "classy" bike.

if i were to have a much better frame would that have changed everything? i'm a bigger fan of beefy looking aluminum frames then smaller steel ones, and out of the ones i've seen, i like the concept the best.

but anyways, i'm not oblivious to how silly it all sounds, but i partly want this to be a learning experience and i partly want to make a crazy overdone but still functional bike

Maybe wear out the stock parts, by riding ALOT BEFORE you buy all the bling. Then you might have a clue as to why you are buying such gear. Oh this gave me a headache.

^best advice you're going to hear on the matter.

tarck

Maybe wear out the stock parts, by riding ALOT BEFORE you buy all the bling. Then you might have a clue as to why you are buying such gear. Oh this gave me a headache.

do this. or do you just have a frame?

frame: motobecane lolmessenger
headset: chris king
stem: i have no clue here. help?
handlebars: not sure on this yet either =/
grips: oury
crankset: 165 paul road cranks
bottom bracket: phil wood stainless steel
pedals: i need recommendations for some low profile pedals
toe straps: toshi double toe straps
wheels: aerospoke front and back
seatpost: no clue



here's my advice, based on you having money issues and no LBS and not riding that many miles:

keep the frame (hopefully it fits you)
do not buy a chris king headset. get a cheap tange or something (you'll need a 1" threaded headset)
stem: cheap SR
handlebars: cheap generic road drops
cranks: sugino rd's
matching bottom bracket. you seriously do not need a stainless bottom bracket
pedals: mks gr9's, steel or plastic clips and single nylon straps
wheels: basically anything from here: http://shop.greatdealsonbikes.com/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=GDOB&Category_Code=TR
seatpost: one that's cheap and fits (you'll need to know the seatpost diameter of the frame)

OR just buy a kiloTT complete from bikesdirect.

here's my advice, based on you having money issues and no LBS and not riding that many miles:

keep the frame (hopefully it fits you)
do not buy a chris king headset. get a cheap tange or something (you'll need a 1" threaded headset)
stem: cheap SR
handlebars: cheap generic road drops
cranks: sugino rd's
matching bottom bracket. you seriously do not need a stainless bottom bracket
pedals: mks gr9's, steel or plastic clips and single nylon straps
wheels: basically anything from here: http://shop.greatdealsonbikes.com/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=GDOB&Category_Code=TR
seatpost: one that's cheap and fits (you'll need to know the seatpost diameter of the frame)

OR just buy a kiloTT complete from bikesdirect.

http://www.chaobell.net/gallery/d/567-2/Q453NXAAE5AGYOEOLVI6EWAQQ2O6RRWF.jpg

seriously though, with all that money laying around just get a kilo tt or a motobecane.
i mean with no LBS around you might even have trouble assembling all that good stuff.
just get the kilo and start swapping when you feel like you need better stuff. i think it's a way better idea.

http://www.xsunderground.com/thechilde/the_childe.jpg?

you're taking this in good humor OP. yes, we are busting your chops, but we all bust everyone's chops, no matter what. yeah, it seems like you're putting the cart before the horse right now, but it's your bike and your $$$, so really do what you want. but delicious and traffic jammer (jesus murphy!) have offered the best advice so far.

spooki, if you want a restoration thread, go for it. those are always fun to read. but mine's gonna stay in C&V.

it's been said already but I'll say it again... the motobecane or kilo or whatnot are fine if you want to be able to mount a rack, etc... just don't go blowing money throwing expensive parts on a serviceable but unexciting frame.

Even after jamming for 20odd years, I'm looking at maybe 200bones for my Steel Wool hubs for my wheel build, I can't justify the blingy gear vs. $$$, but that's me.

get a kilo tt and then upgrade it as you go. This build is a waste of money.

spooki, if you want a restoration thread, go for it. those are always fun to read. but mine's gonna stay in C&V.

Does 1999 OCLV count as c or v? Because i'll definitely do it...

Does 1999 OCLV count as c or v? Because i'll definitely do it...

9 years old? to some, it's obsolete, so that may work. mostly "v" but i doubt it's "c" yet.

here's my futurebike

http://photofile.ru/photo/appo/3122949/large/65916784.jpg

LUK AT MAH ARROSPOKS

lolz, downtube shifters.

the bike is only as aero as the person. a stick person could ride that to much accord.

Hmmm... that headset's worth about as much as that frame. Do you know what both of these items functions are? We're talkin' priorities here.