Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - To those rocking the thicker KMC chain:

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str8flexed
04-20-08, 12:20 PM
I had my KMC 410H (thicker sideplates, this thing is a beast) for half a year and just recently changed it to a normal KMC chain (the gold one, mmmm).

Now my bike is silent as hell, in opposed to noisy. When I'm riding and look down to assess noise, now 95% of it is tire on road noise, that lovely tire on road noise..ohhhhh. Just saying... if your bike is loud and you're using that chain try changing it to a normal one.

BTW I am using a Miche crankset with an EAI cog; used to have a Surly cog on back though (and the thick chain was loud with both).


operator
04-20-08, 12:23 PM
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mander
04-20-08, 12:25 PM
I don't get it operator, can you tell that a chain will be noisy by how fat it is?


frankstoneline
04-20-08, 12:30 PM
Hey guys hey guys!
I just got pedals on my bike, now I can go up hills AND stop at intersections!
kthnxbai.

sp00ki
04-20-08, 12:30 PM
this thread does not need to happen.

Gyeswho
04-20-08, 12:34 PM
I love that tire to road sound at night. It is such a beautiful symphony! So far I've only found that the KMC Z chain to be the most SILENT of all that I've tried (which has only been the fat one this thread was about and a sach chain)

roadfix
04-20-08, 12:34 PM
I refuse to replace my chain.

teiaperigosa
04-20-08, 12:47 PM
keeping your chain clean and well lubed I think is more important than how thick your chain is

also stretched chains are noisy

and yea, 'woosh' sounds are nice

str8flexed
04-20-08, 01:19 PM
I don't get it operator, can you tell that a chain will be noisy by how fat it is?

it may sound stupid but yes, I didn't believe it would matter, but apparently it does, so I'm posting it here in case there are other people like me who don't believe their thicker chain is making more noise.

Pfutz
04-20-08, 01:21 PM
hey dumbass you realize "thicker kmc chains" are made for a different drivetrain?

Run a 1/8th chain on a 1/8th drivetrain and its just as silent as a 3/32 on 3/32.

mander
04-20-08, 01:36 PM
Some of you guys are being serious coonts for no reason i can figure out.

str8flexed
04-20-08, 01:56 PM
hey dumbass you realize "thicker kmc chains" are made for a different drivetrain?

Run a 1/8th chain on a 1/8th drivetrain and its just as silent as a 3/32 on 3/32.

noob, go look up KMC 410H. It has thicker sideplates.

mander
04-20-08, 02:26 PM
410s are pretty low end kmc's, that might have had something to do with it. It actually makes little obvious/ a priori sense that a chain with thicker side plates would be noisier, that was a rhetirical question up there.

I really like the 510ZH's---on my setup they are always a bit noisy at first but quieten down quick. Currently I am rocking a 1/8" skinny 410---I didn't know you could get them as H's. Just checking to see how a $6 chain works, and it aint bad. It's pretty quiet anyway.

Gyeswho
04-20-08, 02:29 PM
hey dumbass you realize "thicker kmc chains" are made for a different drivetrain?

Run a 1/8th chain on a 1/8th drivetrain and its just as silent as a 3/32 on 3/32.

um WRONG! Chains vary in how much noise they make. I have the THICK 1/8 KMC chain he's talking about and it is indeed very noisy.

Pfutz
04-20-08, 02:30 PM
noob, go look up KMC 410H. It has thicker sideplates.

noob, sideplate width would have absolutely nothing to do with road noise.

p.s noob, your "thick" chain was old, old chains stretch and always have more road chatter than new chains.

p.p.s noob, who the **** says noob.

Pfutz
04-20-08, 02:32 PM
um WRONG! Chains vary in how much noise they make. I have the THICK 1/8 KMC chain he's talking about and it is indeed very noisy.

Explain how plate width would influence road noise.

He had a ****ty chain, that is the most likely answer for why his drivetrain was making noise.

mander
04-20-08, 02:32 PM
noob, sideplate width would have absolutely nothing to do with road noise.

p.s. noob, the kmc 410h is a 1/8th chain

p.p.s noob, your "thick" chain was old, old chains stretch and always have more road chatter than new chains.

p.p.p.s noob, who the **** says noob.


What the **** is wrong with you today dood?

Pfutz
04-20-08, 02:34 PM
What the **** is wrong with you today dood?

I edited my post, I am in a bad mood, I retract my trolling.

sandwiches
04-20-08, 02:40 PM
I'd rather have a loud bike whose chain I know won't crap out on me.

Gyeswho
04-20-08, 02:42 PM
Explain how plate width would influence road noise.

He had a ****ty chain, that is the most likely answer for why his drivetrain was making noise.

I never said anything about plate width. Your comment, which I responded to, said getting a chain to match his drivetrain thickness will result in a silent run which is totally wrong. Here's your response:
hey dumbass you realize "thicker kmc chains" are made for a different drivetrain?

Run a 1/8th chain on a 1/8th drivetrain and its just as silent as a 3/32 on 3/32.

I've heard the fat wipperman chain has never been quiet and I have the thick KMC chain that matches my 1/8th drivetrain, so please explain how you think every 1/8 chain is going to be silent like a 3/32nd?

operator
04-20-08, 02:59 PM
I'd rather have a loud bike whose chain I know won't crap out on me.

Especially when you consider the fact that 3/32 chains are in much more wide use than 1/8 chain, are designed to handle extreme variation in chainline, lighter and faster on the road and in the stand.

Then you would be right.

Let's also ignore the fact that 99% of chain failure is due to incorrect installation or extreme wear, the former being much easier to do for a noob since 1/8 chains hardly come with real masterlinks.

diff_lock2
04-20-08, 03:04 PM
A REAL masterlink? I just use what my KMC chain came with.

jhaber
04-20-08, 03:05 PM
I run a blue KMC 1/8 chain to a dura-ace 1/8 cog. It have never noticed it being noisy. It's pretty damn silent and I have never lubed it.

EivlEvo
04-20-08, 03:05 PM
Here we go.

mander
04-20-08, 03:05 PM
Especially when you consider the fact that 3/32 chains are in much more wide use than 1/8 chain, are designed to handle extreme variation in chainline, lighter and faster on the road and in the stand.

Then you would be right.

Let's also ignore the fact that 99% of chain failure is due to incorrect installation or extreme wear, the former being much easier to do for a noob since 1/8 chains hardly come with real masterlinks.

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anomaly
04-20-08, 03:47 PM
Wow.

peugotpigeon
04-20-08, 03:50 PM
my tires go "woooooosh"
my chain doesnt
thickness doesnt = noisy

Gyeswho
04-20-08, 04:05 PM
my tires go "woooooosh"
my chain doesnt
thickness doesnt = noisy

I think the OP meant that particular brand is noisy. I don't believe every thick chain is noisy unless I've tried that chain and it was noisy for me. So far the thick KMC is very noisy for me

jim-bob
04-20-08, 04:18 PM
I run the cheap-ass kmc chains on all my single-cog bikes and haven't noticed much in the way of noise, which is pretty exceptional considering that I never really gave much thought to chainline.

Judge_Posner
04-20-08, 04:23 PM
summary of this thread...

the thicker you are, the louder she is.

Gyeswho
04-20-08, 04:24 PM
I run the cheap-ass kmc chains on all my single-cog bikes and haven't noticed much in the way of noise, which is pretty exceptional considering that I never really gave much thought to chainline.

there are diff models of the KMC chains. I have found the ones that have the Z on the side plates to be perfectly silent. It's the 410h model that the OP (and I) was talking about noisy

SHOwned
04-20-08, 05:06 PM
a friend of mine runs the 415H on his BMX bike...that is one beefy chain. ****er is 3/16" spacing. recommends only using a specific freewheel for it, otherwise its hella noisy.

Dr.PooLittle
04-20-08, 05:28 PM
I have a 1/8" KMC (with the Z on the side plates) and the rest of my drivetrain is 1/8". I wipe it down and lube it once a week. All I ever hear is "vvvvvv" from the tires; I've actually been considering going thinner just to see if they quiet down. Anyway, besides chainline, I'd check chain tension if I were hearing noise.

noahgansett
04-20-08, 06:52 PM
i'm thinking that this post is about the 3/16" chain. wicked wide for bmx grind stuff. also needs the huge (non-standard) park chain tool and is wicked loud and a pain in the ass to run (plates wear your lockring if you have a small cog and spider if small chainring.)

cheeva
04-20-08, 08:52 PM
who would ride 3/16" on a fixed gear

bstrick11
04-20-08, 09:15 PM
I got bored and quit reading after a reply or two. CLEAN = QUITE! 'nough said.

SHOwned
04-20-08, 10:12 PM
I got bored and quit reading after a reply or two. CLEAN = QUITE! 'nough said.

quiet