To try and add a bit of value - do you have a favourite saddle that is on rails? Not compatible with the I-Beam? If so - this invention may help... http://www.hollymillcycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m2b0s84p2665

Got one, but haven't tried it out yet.,..

Excellent link, thanx. The saddle on the H/Head looks rather 'manly' in the pix, I made need to swap for my gel saddle.

Sue

To try and add a bit of value - do you have a favourite saddle that is on rails? Not compatible with the I-Beam? If so - this invention may help... http://www.hollymillcycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m2b0s84p2665

Got one, but haven't tried it out yet.,..

Be very interesting to see if that works. Is it just the "T" piece plastic that you buy? If so, it's hard to see how the existing I-beam clamps could stretch far enough to fit over the rails.........

Excellent link, thanx. The saddle on the H/Head looks rather 'manly' in the pix, I made need to swap for my gel saddle.

Sue

I've been riding a folder for about a 1000 miles with a saddle from:

http://www.rido-cyclesaddles.com/

It has no gel at all, & has convinced me that gel isn't necessary on a bicycle saddle. It's a moulding, with a kind of "carcass" built in to the mould.

My wife thinks it's just "ok", preferring a wider saddle, but I'm looking forward to their mark 2 version sometime this year, which may suit her better.

It seems to come as a shock to many LBS owners that women are a different shape to men.

Then again, as many of the chaps I meet in bike shops don't appear ever to have had a girlfriend, that shouldn't be a surprise... :fred:

:rolleyes:

Gel is ok but bicycling managed for 100 years without it. It gets hot if you leave it in the sun.

Saddle width is a problem for women. Our huge, child-bearing hips do not fit well on seats designed for er, other bits. The Bel Air saddle on the Hammerhead gets good reviews though, so I'll try it. Gel dual-rail saddles are dang heavy, another reason for trying anything once..

Anyway, I only bought the Hammerhead for posing. I'm not going to ride it anywhere.

edit: Those Rido saddles look interesting, cheap too. Needs an adaptor for the Hammerhead, one presumes.
Sue

Be very interesting to see if that works. Is it just the "T" piece plastic that you buy? If so, it's hard to see how the existing I-beam clamps could stretch far enough to fit over the rails.........

That part is ONLY for use with Kore's I-Beam seatposts, it should NOT be used on SDG I-Beam seatposts.
If you want a railed saddle, and you have a Kore I-Beam seatpost, your only choice is to replace the seatpost entirely.

cheers

...

Saddle width is a problem for women. Our huge, child-bearing hips do not fit well on seats designed for er, other bits. ........
Gel dual-rail saddles are dang heavy, another reason for trying anything once..


That's pretty much what my wife said :-)


Anyway, I only bought the Hammerhead for posing. I'm not going to ride it anywhere.


If that's true, & you bought the medium size, let me know if you want to sell it, as I've just received email that they've all gone :-(


edit: Those Rido saddles look interesting, cheap too. Needs an adaptor for the Hammerhead, one presumes.
Sue

Reading 4cmd3's post, yes. They are very good value, so you could always pass it around friends to try if you didn't get used to it.

That part is ONLY for use with Kore's I-Beam seatposts, it should NOT be used on SDG I-Beam seatposts.
If you want a railed saddle, and you have a Kore I-Beam seatpost, your only choice is to replace the seatpost entirely.

cheers

Useful to know, thanks.

That's pretty much what my wife said :-)



If that's true, & you bought the medium size, let me know if you want to sell it, as I've just received email that they've all gone :-(






Oh dear. That's the trouble with the internet, somebody mentions a bargain, and shazzam! - they're gone immediately. I bought a 'large' so alas, I cannot help you. Wandering grommets permitting, I'm hoping to get the thing on the road asap, saddle or no saddle.

Does the H/Head come with pedals by the way? All the pix are of pedal-less bikes.


See? People just buy them to pose on.....:D

Mine is 'picked for delivery'. paces up and down......

I never even knew that there was a difference between I-Beam Seatposts - thank you for pointing this out to me! In which case the following link may be helpful.... http://82.195.150.45/Models.aspx?ModelID=17617 It is not the 6061, but should do? I'm going to measure this as these are the seat measurements from the 2008 model....

Oh dear. That's the trouble with the internet, somebody mentions a bargain, and shazzam! - they're gone immediately.....
Mine is 'picked for delivery'. paces up and down......

Yes, though I suspect it's the price that clinched it, as it doesn't fold, so even disassembled it's still relatively big, so a niche market at the full price. Definitely good value for money though!

Let us know how you get on with it.

I never even knew that there was a difference between I-Beam Seatposts - thank you for pointing this out to me! In which case the following link may be helpful.... http://82.195.150.45/Models.aspx?ModelID=17617 It is not the 6061, but should do? I'm going to measure this as these are the seat measurements from the 2008 model....

Not clear what you mean here......

It appears that a dual rail saddle will require a different, non I-beam seatpost.

What I mean is that you appear to get the SDG I Beam post with the Hammerhead 7.0. Dahon appear to have changed this on a lot of their 2008 bikes to the KORE I beam post. You can get a KORE adaptor to be able to fit a railed seat - it is more than just a piece of plastic, I'll try and post a pic at some stage. But this only fits the KORE post and not the SDG post apparently. Of course, you could get a suitably sized post with rail saddle, or if you had the KORE adaptor, I posted a link to the KORE post so you could use it with a rail. I don't know if you can use SDG saddles on Kore I Beam posts however. Sure that is all clear as mud!

... Dahon appear to have changed this on a lot of their 2008 bikes to the KORE I beam post. ... I don't know if you can use SDG saddles on Kore I Beam posts however. Sure that is all clear as mud!

Actually, I am clearer now thanks.

The Kore approach does seem to be more versatile, allowing railed seats to be used with that adapter too. Hopefully the I-beam seat rail itself is a "standard" size to allow seats to be used on both SDG & Kore posts, otherwise it's hard to see it being more widely taken up.

A pic' would be handy if you get a chance please.

A pity there isn't more variety of seats available, as the I-beam does seem a good idea. The much longer fore & aft movement could come in very handy on a folder used by more than one rider, along with a welcome weight saving.

I've just had a look and it appears as though the top of the KORE I-Beam seat post is different from the SDG post and basically you would just replace if with the "gadget" which would allow a railed saddle to be used. If you wanted to swap back to the I Beam seat, you'd have to replace the gadget and the seat with the original connection. I think from the pictures that a SDG seat should be usable with a KORE Seat post and vice versa - the I Beam rail principle is consistent I think. Attached a picture of the gadget.

What we need is for somebody whose Hammerhead arrives tomorrow (ahem) with a dual-rail seat (ahem) and an I-Beam seat post (ahem) to borrow your gizmo, test & photograph for the benefit of Bicycling Kind, and then post it back to you.

(ahem)

Or I could just buy one...

:lol:

Thank you for the very kind offer ;) but I've got a KORE seat post now on order, I have the rail adaptor, I have the SDG Seat Post and 3x SDG Seats and a Brooks B17. Right, when I get the KORE Seat post, I can have a look at all the combinations! And I've still got to get the gears right on the Hammerhead!

excellent service from Mat Clark of Fishers. Email replied to by return, grommet in post that day. Now its with LBS, hope to pick up the hammerhead later today for the long (-er than it strictly should be) ride home. Will report more later.

But for now, I can only sing Mat Clark and Fisher's praises, and say that this service from the Dahon distributor would make me feel v. positive about buying another Dahon.

have 3x SDG Seats and a Brooks B17.



How are you going to fit four saddles on your bike? Won't it look a bit odd?


Anyway, we await with baited breff, the fruits of your labours...

With pix. :popcorn

....
But for now, I can only sing Mat Clark and Fisher's praises, and say that this service from the Dahon distributor would make me feel v. positive about buying another Dahon.

That's good to know. About 2 years ago when I started to look at folders I was put off Dahon by the poor attitude of a UK retailer, but having now favourably ridden a couple of Dahon bikes, will look out for decent dealers.

..... I've got a KORE seat post now on order, I have the rail adaptor, I have the SDG Seat Post and 3x SDG Seats and a Brooks B17. Right, when I get the KORE Seat post, I can have a look at all the combinations! And I've still got to get the gears right on the Hammerhead!

Like snafu21, I'll be interested to see how you get on & pictures (any chance of a bigger one than that thumbnail please?)

Is this the front or rear derailleur that's not right?

What do you think of the "Flightdeck" shifters?

Its the front derailleur - just a bit of rubbing and front derailleurs are a bit of a mystery to me - I normally ride single speeds and rear derailleur only bikes. Yeah - the Flight Deck shifters are a bit mad! Not sure how much adjustment I will need to change gear when I get to lights etc, but will be part of a learning curve. Found somewhere else that may be able to help with hubs - https://sslrelay.com/s75353868.oneandoneshop.co.uk/sess/utn;jsessionid=154832df9eb3027/shopdata/0030_Dahon+Spares/0220_Dahon+Wheels/product_overview.shopscript. At £45 they're a fair bit cheaper! Will have a look at photos and getting them larger - I just did this as an attachment using the paperclip tool...

How are you going to fit four saddles on your bike? Won't it look a bit odd?


Anyway, we await with baited breff, the fruits of your labours...

With pix. :popcorn

You sound like my wife :rolleyes: How you going to ride 6 bikes? Try telling her I NEED 6 bikes...

OK so nearly there - grommeted and up and running and my it is fast.

For the time being bought cheap pedals to keep me going, but any suggestions ?

OK so nearly there - grommeted and up and running and my it is fast.

For the time being bought cheap pedals to keep me going, but any suggestions ?

Are you telling us this stunning bargain of a scoot don't come with pedals?

Jeepers!


MKS have some neat alloy folders - Amazon UK has them, not a neat price though.

We need pix of your bike and we need them now...

Yes, it surprised me somewhat no pedals, but am I alone in not having them?

Anyway, I went for MKS-FD6's, will post a pic when I have them fitted....

Yes, it surprised me somewhat no pedals, but am I alone in not having them?

Anyway, I went for MKS-FD6's, will post a pic when I have them fitted....

Apparently, it's normal for "high end" bicycles to be supplied without pedals.

I need a new pair to which I can fix Zefal toe clips. Where did you buy your FD6's from please?

cyclistjohn, I bought them online fromwww.cyclestore.co.uk £22.99, though whether this is cheaper than elsewhere (around £26) when you factor in postage (£4 on top) is not clear.

On the I-beam, I am trying to shift the saddle back a bit, but am having trouble just shifting the bolt. It is lefty-loosy (ie anticlockwise to loosen?), right?

cyclistjohn, I bought them online fromwww.cyclestore.co.uk £22.99, though whether this is cheaper than elsewhere (around £26) when you factor in postage (£4 on top) is not clear.

On the I-beam, I am trying to shift the saddle back a bit, but am having trouble just shifting the bolt. It is lefty-loosy (ie anticlockwise to loosen?), right?

Ok, thanks.

Yes, normal anti-clockwise to undo. Some suppliers really lace up bolts far too tight, so you might find a strong tube, say an old bike steel seat tube, slid over the Allen key helps.

Mine arrived today, ordered Sunday. Cripes! It's a lot of bike for the money. Really nice.

Matt finish Shark Grey. The 'grommets' are held in two circular plastic packing pieces fitted on the end of the front wheel hub. Don't toss them. Comes with allen key tool, and a little bottle of touch up paint that was dried up. I can't ride the bike at the mo as I don't have a Presta pump for the valves. Duh. Ya don't get no pedals with it. Stole them off my Speed D7.

Gears more or less setup, front brake has to be fitted and the pads reversed as the caliper goes behind the front wheel fork. Am I wrong?

Also has tapped holes for a bottle cage.


Lovely bike. I need a pump NOW!


And a sidestand to stop the paint getting chewed... But that adds weight.....


It's not a folder, by the way.

pix:

http://i25.tinypic.com/211rl0m.jpg

note ferlat tyres...

http://i31.tinypic.com/jfap87.jpg


Sue

pix:

Sue


Very nice Sue.

Are you *sure* you don't have a Presta fitting in your existing pump? Most recent mini pumps have a reversible inner bit of plastic that will fit a Presta. Worth a check? Any biker friends who might have one?

You've got about 1 hour of daylight left to try it ;-)

john

Very nice Sue.

Are you *sure* you don't have a Presta fitting in your existing pump? Most recent mini pumps have a reversible inner bit of plastic that will fit a Presta. Worth a check? Any biker friends who might have one?

You've got about 1 hour of daylight left to try it ;-)

john


Danke. Ripped into the car boot and pulled the end off a foot pump, got about 60PSI in the tyres. Fiddled with the gears a bit more and set off into the wild blue yonder. Did twice as far as I normally do in an hour - love those Flight Deck Shifters! Bike very comfortable for me, saddle ok for an hour.

My pump is a Topeak MasterBlaster - supposed to do either valve - I'll try again now I got some air in the tubes..

"The Master Blaster Deluxe Mini Pump is one of the smallest pumps available - The innovative Smarthead automatically adjusts to presta or schraeder valves so you don't need to worry about losing the adapter piece commonly found on other air pumps."


Yeah, right..;) I'll get an adaptor and plug my electric pump onto the Prestas tomorrow.

Hammerheads rule ! Yay! I quite like the Truvativ cranks:

"Truvativ have the passion and resources to create components that are capable of satiating the most fanatical gram-counting climbers to the most fearless cliff-hucking gravity junkies."

Erm. That's me, then..

I just can't get over the price.

What's the catch? I've been trained to believe that there is no free lunch. This seems to come with free breakfast, lunch and dinner.

I just can't get over the price.

What's the catch? I've been trained to believe that there is no free lunch. This seems to come with free breakfast, lunch and dinner.


The catch is they just sold out. Hammerhead is gone from Winstanleys web site....:backpedal:

sold out but someone is selling one - boxed, new on UK ebay....

maybe someone thought they could buy from winstanleys and sell on.

wonder if the grommets are there;)

I am awaiting new pedals and then will post my pic.

But it is a lovely bike to ride. When I was about 19 I bought a Claude Butler road bike from a mate for a tenner (that was in the days when a tenner was a lot of money, hoho),and had it for about 8 years before it was nicked in Leeds. It was my first love bikewise - light, accelerated like stink, felt like it could be part of me.

The hammerhead is the first bike I have had since then that really has that feel. I like it, see. Whether I could ever be as thin as I was back in the day is another story....

I am awaiting new pedals and then will post my pic.


The hammerhead is the first bike I have had since then that really has that feel. I like it, see. Whether I could ever be as thin as I was back in the day is another story....

This might affect your ability to accelerate like 'stink' in the way you used to on the Claude Butler.

Have fun when the pedals arrive. I think you must be more patient than I am if you can wait for mail order pedals in these circumstances. I'd have put on my trainers and run around to the LBS with a bunch of sweaty notes in my hand within ten minutes of the bike's arrival.

:)

I am awaiting new pedals and then will post my pic.

But it is a lovely bike to ride. When I was about 19 I bought a Claude Butler road bike from a mate for a tenner (that was in the days when a tenner was a lot of money, hoho),and had it for about 8 years before it was nicked in Leeds. It was my first love bikewise - light, accelerated like stink, felt like it could be part of me.

The hammerhead is the first bike I have had since then that really has that feel. I like it, see. Whether I could ever be as thin as I was back in the day is another story....


Yes, much the same here. My first bike was an Amstrong frame I scrounged, then begged bits for. I ended up with lots of Campagnolo bits from somewhere. Fixed gear too! Had it a year, then replaced the brake pads and put them in the wrong way. Went down a steep hill, and interfaced with a lamp post after the brake blocks shot out from the shoes. Goodbye cycling career. Aged 11.

The Hammerhead is fast and nimble- and today I finally got the tyres up to 100psi. Woot.

Go steal some pedals, Gus. That bike needs to be ridden... :-)

sold out but someone is selling one - boxed, new on UK ebay....

maybe someone thought they could buy from winstanleys and sell on.

wonder if the grommets are there;)



'Laralonglegs' of North London is flipping that Hammerhead 7 on Thiefbay. Lots of bids, up to £185 today. The vendor is a purveyor of counterfeit DVD's so - not a bicyclist then...:crash:


There's a Cambridge bike shop selling HH7's for £488.00

Spare grommets will be £399.00 each by the end of the month....:notamused:



Positive comment: Put a Cateye pooter on the bike, and got the tyres whacked up to 3 bar+.

Bloke in LBS quizzical when asked for a couple of spare 20" x 1 1/8th" toobs. "Wassat for?" he asked. I told him. He wasn't amused because I nearly bought a Giant road bike off him last week, but, being an LBS he was a bit pricey. So, I uh, held off.

I know the local guys can't compete with internet box shifters, but there's no reason why they can't do the same..

What am I? His mother?

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Sue


http://i29.tinypic.com/2cfw5ub.jpg

Bloke in LBS quizzical when asked for a couple of spare 20" x 1 1/8th" toobs.
Better be careful here. These might very well not fit. For 406mm wheels, you want decimal inches, eg 20x1.25". For 451 wheels, you want fractional inches as in your post.


http://i29.tinypic.com/2cfw5ub.jpg
Aaaargh... plastic sticker... must pull off... can't resist... :twitchy:

"Aaaargh... plastic sticker... must pull off... can't resist... "'


I wondered where all the extra weight was coming from...


Thanks for dope on toobs. Box says they fit 406's . Hmmmm. I got a puncture kit too, for when they don't.



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Sue

Aaaargh... plastic sticker... must pull off... can't resist... :twitchy:

I am aflicted with this disease too! It's a draw as strong as the dark side of the force...
I even get a little tetchy when I run out of the petrol lighter fluid I use for accomplishing it. I wonder if the syndrome has a name...

"Hi I'm a De-decaloholic - I see you've left the Sale-Price sticker on the front of that CD...Oh Nooooes!... Must...peel...."

Seems I'm the only one who didn't get one of these bikes in the sale! I was very tempted but I have enough bikes (and ongoing projects). If I'd had a few drinks the night it was posted I'd probably have one by now.

I wonder if the syndrome has a name...


"Obsessive Compulsive Disorder."

You get obsessed with something, then you're compelled to do it.. Leave the stickers alone - they're not hurting you....:thumb:


OR... Your'e addicted to lighter fuel.


"Seems I'm the only one who didn't get one of these bikes in the sale! I was very tempted but I have enough bikes (and ongoing projects). If I'd had a few drinks the night it was posted I'd probably have one by now."


I bought one and I don't drink. For ***'s sake, please nobody don't post no more pix of desirable scoots...


:D


There's one being flipped on Ebay. I can't imagine anyone from this thread buying it, though..

My HH 7.0 is runing well. The suspension is a bit soft when you're out of the saddle and the bike feels a bit squirelly when dancing on the pedals, but not too bad at all. Good for cruising along.

I got a new carbon seatpost, saddle, rear tyre and pedals. I will fit some drops next month and take a pic.

My HH 7.0 is runing well. The suspension is a bit soft when you're out of the saddle and the bike feels a bit squirelly when dancing on the pedals, but not too bad at all. Good for cruising along.

I got a new carbon seatpost, saddle, rear tyre and pedals. I will fit some drops next month and take a pic.

F&T: How well do you feel the gearing works? I kinda get to 20mph on my speedo in 'top' and think I could go with a larger chainring. Then I think 'how many times do I do 20mph+?" and concentrate and riding back home.

I haven't done that dancing on the pedals thing yet.

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Sue

Hmmm. very jealous of all these people riding their bikes. I tried to sort out the gears on mine last night and educate myself in the ways of the front derailler. Think I may have to take it to a bike shop as my tinkering appears to have made it a LOT worse!!! Bit worried re the 20 mph thing though - I get my MU up to that speed a fair bit (downhill behind buses!) and want better perfomance from the HH!

Hmmm. very jealous of all these people riding their bikes. I tried to sort out the gears on mine last night and educate myself in the ways of the front derailler. Think I may have to take it to a bike shop as my tinkering appears to have made it a LOT worse!!! Bit worried re the 20 mph thing though - I get my MU up to that speed a fair bit (downhill behind buses!) and want better perfomance from the HH!

The gear inch range of both bikes are almost identical, so the top speed (and lowest gear hill climbing speed) at the same cadence will be nearly the same, although the gear ratios will be much closer on the HH as it's packed the same gear inches within 18 gears..

Hmmm. very jealous of all these people riding their bikes. I tried to sort out the gears on mine last night and educate myself in the ways of the front derailler. Think I may have to take it to a bike shop as my tinkering appears to have made it a LOT worse!!! Bit worried re the 20 mph thing though - I get my MU up to that speed a fair bit (downhill behind buses!) and want better perfomance from the HH!

Don't worry about it. My bike pooter is new and uncalibrated - I just used the default setting. My 20mph could be somebody else's 30.... And - I had a tailwind on the ride home.

That front derallieur, mine was ok out of the box but the high limit screw was slightly out. Wouldn't go onto the large chainring. So I unscrewed it one turn, and all is ok.


You'll love the bike - it accelerates like a thing that, er, accelerates... Those FlightDeck shifters- it's like being on the Tour De France, already.

hi
I'm brand new to this forum. I too was drawn in by the pretty pictures. My HH arrived a few days ago. I'm itching to get on the thing and ride, but can't seem to find the grommets for the front hub. Can anyone out there help me out and post a pic of the plastic piece it comes attached to?

thanks