Stack and Reach

[RMW]

I've read a lot about this topic lately and am curious to know how frame builders and specialists accurately measure these. Specifically I want to know I'm setting up two different frames with different geometry's identically for riding.

Is there a tool for this? I've found a (discontinued?) product called the FitStik that might work. Or maybe a framers T-square could do the job?
Thanks! (and apologies if this is the wrong forum for such a question...)

[randall t]

Try www.Slowtwitch.com there is some info on stack and reach.

[RMW]

The info at slowtwitch is just the theory and there primarily TT bike information. The Cervélo knowlege base has good info for road frames.

I've read plenty on the topic but what I was (still am) actually looking for a tool that will allow me to measure acurately stack and reach on various frames. Any ideas with this?

Thanks anyway for the reply.