Road Cycling - Its not about the bike.....or the camping equipment

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Smoothie104
11-19-03, 10:49 PM
It's not about the bike, It's all about the guy riding it.... Case in point, well 2 actually.


I do a Saturday morning group ride, about 35 miles, 18-22 mph, no one gets left behind. City limit signs are sprints, and the last couple of miles before we finish always get a little crazy. Its a Saturday social.

We've got about 15 riders who usually show up, a couple tri-guys with their aero bars, and one guy showed up on a mountain bike. He got gapped on all the 'climbs'. (here in coastal Georgia, we don't really have any.) and we had to slow a bit and wait a couple of times for him and an older gentlemen, but never for more than 20 seconds or so.

I dropped back in the group to chat with the guy on the mountain bike, asked him if he had enough water etc. He was grinnnig from ear to ear and sweating like a horse. Said he had pegged his HRM over 185 a couple of times and was starting to sympathize with the slow guys in his unit. Turns out he is a Platoon Leader at the local Army Airfield, and had always ribbed the soldiers in his unit who fell behind on their daily runs. Now he knew what it was like to be at the end of the line.

I suggested he put some more air in the tires next time, and he said he had a road bike arriving the coming wednesday, He's been out with us twice so far on the road bike and having a much more enjoyable saturday. All the running he does got him in enough shape to stay with the group despite being at a serious disadvantage regarding equipment.
I was impressed.


#2

So last Saturday I meet up with the group, as we roll along I chat to everyone I know, introduce my self to those I don't. And I notice a Guy on a lugged steel cyclocross bike, with big knobby tires on it. He's got a rear rack, with what looks like a tent on it, complete with poles, maybe a pump, hell there could have been a stove on there for all I know.

Now I learned a long time ago while racing as a teenager that you always have to watch out for the guys with the older bikes. At the starting line of many a northeastern ohio crit, I would notice kids with brand new shiny clean $3000.00 bikes, all the trimmings etc. But I wouldn't see them on the last couple of laps. It was the guys with the dirty, slightly older bikes, torn shorts from crashing etc.. that had the miles in thier legs to punish me at the end.

And I got to thinking... this guy has a cyclo-cross bike, the only one I've seen in town, he must be pretty serious about his cycling to have one. And he had that smooth effortless quick round pedal stroke.....the sign of veteran.

About 18 miles later, we are about 3 miles from the coffe shop we were stopping at. A group of about 6 or so including the cyclo-cross guy had crossed a 4 lane road while the rest of us got caught behind a little traffic, as we cross and start rolling, My friend John says, 'well if were gonna do this, lets do this....' So we pick the pace up a bit to maybe 23, im feeling pretty good at the front, and as I'm about to pull through again we catch them. John moves over to the right to latch on to the back of the group we just caught, and I decided to launch one.

Its about 2 miles to the coffe shop, and I plan on being the 1st one there. Now I've got 1000 miles for the year, but I only started up again the 1st of August, but I am getting leaner and stronger. I give it pretty much all I've got for about 20 sec. I passed them at around 28mph, and when I sat down I had ramped it up to 36mph. Now I can't hold this pace for long, so I drop down to about 26 but its too late, I've already blown up and gone anerobic, so now all I can do is gut it out and hope for the best.

About 15 seconds later I hear "hey, where is the sprint sign?" It's the dude on the cyclo-cross bike!!!

I manage to say "there isn''t one, I just didnt want to have to wait in line for coffee" without vomiting on him. He says "well, we've got a gap, lets go" and proceeded to wind it up and pull away from me. I don't know what was wierder, watching the luggage rack pull away, or listening to the "zip, zip, zip" of the knobbies fade off into the distance.

He slowed a bit and we got to the coffe shop together, turns out he is the local hammerhead, owns the high end bike shop in town, and is a great guy.


The moral of the story is this........

I did more than make a new friend that day, I got my ass kicked by a little guy riding knobbies packing a tent.


joeprim
11-20-03, 05:23 AM
Neat story
Joe

roadwarrior
11-20-03, 06:05 AM
Amazing difference between riders who ride a lot and have done so for many years...they can ride most anything...I enjoyed your story..

Take a look at a DVD called "The Hard Road". I picked mine up from Velonews. It's about the 2001 season of NetZero racing, a division 3 team in the US. They were brand new...the interesting part is that while these guys are good riders, NetZero's top rider is 41 years old (Graeme Miller) and is competing without much team support (except for Jamie Paolinetti) race after race, finishing in the top 3-10 most every race. Everyone else but one other rider is a rookie in the "pro" ranks..although it looks like they maybe make about ten grand for racing.

The other thing that is interesting is that they were competing against Saturn, Seven up, Navigators, from which a few riders were selected to the recent US world's team. I read a piece by John Lleswyn after the world's...who talked a lot about the power many riders (like Astraloa and Bettini) still have after many hours of riding. John's a top rider. He experienced the next level.

In your own way, you had the same experience.

What were/are you riding?


Croak
11-20-03, 06:36 AM
Brought a smile to my face.

Good story :beer:

Smoothie104
11-20-03, 07:51 AM
I was/am riding a Cannondale 2.8 with Ultegra, dry weight 21lbs. Ive got a new S-Works/Dura Ace coming, that will be nice.

RobRyb
11-20-03, 08:21 AM
Thanks for the story. I blew off my trainer last night. I think I just found some motivation. :-)

Rob

Greg
11-22-03, 03:33 PM
Ha, you got beat by a guy with a tent! :D
Thanks for the tale.

VegasCyclist
11-22-03, 07:44 PM
great story, but it is true... the bike doesn't make the rider :)

ljbike
11-23-03, 07:28 AM
A fun story. Thank you!

It's posts like this that keep me coming back to the forums. Never know when you'll find gold amongst the pyrites.

Zin
11-23-03, 09:23 AM
Thanks for the fun read!

woof
11-23-03, 11:20 AM
This story reminds me of a race I entered 20 yrs ago. Most of us had the gear: fancy bikes, jerseys, shoes etc but one guy entered with his touring bike which had fenders and a rack. He wore running shoes, T-shirt and cut-off jeans.
I wouldn't have given him a second thought except for one other detail which set him apart- 2 bananas duct taped to his top tube. For years the image of these bananas mocked me when I thought about how handily he out-paced me.
This lesson in humility didn't stop me from spending ridiculous amounts of money on bikes and gear but it did make me realise that cycling is how I contribute to one branch of the fashion industry!

skankaholic
11-23-03, 12:38 PM
Cool story!!

gapowermike
08-21-05, 03:02 PM
It's not about the bike, It's all about the guy riding it.... Case in point, well 2 actually.


I do a Saturday morning group ride, about 35 miles, 18-22 mph, no one gets left behind. City limit signs are sprints, and the last couple of miles before we finish always get a little crazy. Its a Saturday social.

We've got about 15 riders who usually show up, a couple tri-guys with their aero bars, and one guy showed up on a mountain bike. He got gapped on all the 'climbs'. (here in coastal Georgia, we don't really have any.) and we had to slow a bit and wait a couple of times for him and an older gentlemen, but never for more than 20 seconds or so.

I dropped back in the group to chat with the guy on the mountain bike, asked him if he had enough water etc. He was grinnnig from ear to ear and sweating like a horse. Said he had pegged his HRM over 185 a couple of times and was starting to sympathize with the slow guys in his unit. Turns out he is a Platoon Leader at the local Army Airfield, and had always ribbed the soldiers in his unit who fell behind on their daily runs. Now he knew what it was like to be at the end of the line.

I suggested he put some more air in the tires next time, and he said he had a road bike arriving the coming wednesday, He's been out with us twice so far on the road bike and having a much more enjoyable saturday. All the running he does got him in enough shape to stay with the group despite being at a serious disadvantage regarding equipment.
I was impressed.


#2

So last Saturday I meet up with the group, as we roll along I chat to everyone I know, introduce my self to those I don't. And I notice a Guy on a lugged steel cyclocross bike, with big knobby tires on it. He's got a rear rack, with what looks like a tent on it, complete with poles, maybe a pump, hell there could have been a stove on there for all I know.

Now I learned a long time ago while racing as a teenager that you always have to watch out for the guys with the older bikes. At the starting line of many a northeastern ohio crit, I would notice kids with brand new shiny clean $3000.00 bikes, all the trimmings etc. But I wouldn't see them on the last couple of laps. It was the guys with the dirty, slightly older bikes, torn shorts from crashing etc.. that had the miles in thier legs to punish me at the end.

And I got to thinking... this guy has a cyclo-cross bike, the only one I've seen in town, he must be pretty serious about his cycling to have one. And he had that smooth effortless quick round pedal stroke.....the sign of veteran.

About 18 miles later, we are about 3 miles from the coffe shop we were stopping at. A group of about 6 or so including the cyclo-cross guy had crossed a 4 lane road while the rest of us got caught behind a little traffic, as we cross and start rolling, My friend John says, 'well if were gonna do this, lets do this....' So we pick the pace up a bit to maybe 23, im feeling pretty good at the front, and as I'm about to pull through again we catch them. John moves over to the right to latch on to the back of the group we just caught, and I decided to launch one.

Its about 2 miles to the coffe shop, and I plan on being the 1st one there. Now I've got 1000 miles for the year, but I only started up again the 1st of August, but I am getting leaner and stronger. I give it pretty much all I've got for about 20 sec. I passed them at around 28mph, and when I sat down I had ramped it up to 36mph. Now I can't hold this pace for long, so I drop down to about 26 but its too late, I've already blown up and gone anerobic, so now all I can do is gut it out and hope for the best.

About 15 seconds later I hear "hey, where is the sprint sign?" It's the dude on the cyclo-cross bike!!!

I manage to say "there isn''t one, I just didnt want to have to wait in line for coffee" without vomiting on him. He says "well, we've got a gap, lets go" and proceeded to wind it up and pull away from me. I don't know what was wierder, watching the luggage rack pull away, or listening to the "zip, zip, zip" of the knobbies fade off into the distance.

He slowed a bit and we got to the coffe shop together, turns out he is the local hammerhead, owns the high end bike shop in town, and is a great guy.


The moral of the story is this........

I did more than make a new friend that day, I got my ass kicked by a little guy riding knobbies packing a tent.

Bump. As a cyclist you should be required to read this every couple of years.

Great insight, Smoothie.

Michael

womble
08-21-05, 03:14 PM
When touring in Patagonia several years ago, my buddy entered a local MTB comp in Argentina.

He was on a $300 rigid bike with front and rear racks. Most others were on full suspension bikes worth a couple of grand. He came 4th, and only placed that low because he had never seen the trail before.

The fact that he'd ridden over 30,000km to get there helped :D

SteveAZ
08-21-05, 03:36 PM
All expensive flashy gear does is make you a target. The element of surprise has it's advantages :D

I haven't raced road bikes YET, but in everything else I've raced, I always try to undermine my ability through various props/actions, he may have done the same. :eek: Either way, good story. I've read a few of your posts and your perspective is always refreshing.

cheers,
Steve

gcasillo
08-21-05, 03:44 PM
I don't know what was wierder, watching the luggage rack pull awayI've been riding my commuter for training rides the last couple of weeks; sold the Look recently. I've been super self-conscious going out with a bike that has canti brakes, full fenders, and a rack. Maybe I shouldn't. Thanks for sharing that.

Metieval
08-21-05, 05:50 PM
I wouldn't have given him a second thought except for one other detail which set him apart- 2 bananas duct taped to his top tube. For years the image of these bananas mocked me when I thought about how handily he out-paced me.



I don't understand the bananas thing..????

gcasillo
08-21-05, 06:21 PM
Re: the bananas...cheap chow smartly packed. The sign of an old schooler. Most of us newer to the sport wouldn't know what to do w/o gel packs. We'd sooner crawl into a ditch and die than commit an OCP penalty w/ produce on our top tubes. :)

KevinF
08-21-05, 06:23 PM
I did a supported bike tour in Vermont a couple years ago. There was enough climbing on the route to give a mountain goat shaky legs. Anyway, a support vehicle carryed everybody's luggage -- everybody, that is, except for "No Pay" Ray. "No Pay" Ray is somewhat famous on bike tours for doing the tour unregistered and unsupported, so he was forced to carry all his gear in his panniers. Even riding a fully loaded bike, he smoked most everybody on the ride on the climbs. I was in awe. Just imagine how fast he'd be if he wasn't carrying 40+ pounds of stuff uphill !

4SEVEN3
08-21-05, 06:42 PM
Man those are awesome stories!! I love it!

In the motorcycle world, we have kids on spankin new crotch rocket, and a old timer on a crusty BMW, and he would spank the kids on the crotch rockets in the twisties! I thinks its awesome!

another note:
I sold a '71 Raleigh Professional to a woman several years back. She was elated in buying it and took it home with her up north. I was told afterwards that she collects these old bikes, races them and places, or wins on a regular basis.

sometimes its not the cyce, but the ability behind the cycle!!

ViperZ
08-22-05, 01:04 AM
I don't know what was wierder, watching the luggage rack pull away, or listening to the "zip, zip, zip" of the knobbies fade off into the distance.


Man I can relate. I was dropped on a Century ride once at about 80 miles by a group of Randonneur's, a few of them were on cross/touring bikes. I was riding on my own for quite some time as I had sort of broke away from the main pack. I was trying for a low 5 hour time. Apperently the Randonneurs were the last to start. I hung with them for a bit, but I couldn't keep pace :( It was later than I learned 3 or 4 of the 5 were going to Paris-Brest-Paris and were veterans of the event :eek:


Good story BTW