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ColorChange
04-29-08, 10:58 AM
I may be able to make the Tuesday night ride at the Penny Road Pub. Anyone else interested?

Psimet2001
04-29-08, 11:11 AM
I was just pm'ing others to see if they were going. I will most likely be in.

I'll hang at the back, get my butt kicked and then drop off when the road turns up....as usual. This week I'll have a map.

ColorChange
04-29-08, 11:31 AM
The rollers will feel like nothing after New Glarus! :)

nietsmas
04-29-08, 11:42 AM
what time?

Psimet2001
04-29-08, 11:45 AM
6:00 at Penny Rd Pub. This is Cyclpsycho's group ride. Only one rider from their "A" group last week. Show up by 5:45. I have a route I can link to. Feel free to drop off the back whenever....so I don't have to ride alone.:D

nietsmas
04-29-08, 12:01 PM
i'll do my best to get there on time. i'll have to leave work a bit early, but it shouldn't be a problem.

Psimet2001
04-29-08, 12:08 PM
CyLowe was implying he might want to rollout earlier than 6. I have to leave work in Aurora to get there on time so too much earlier means that I become part time.

nietsmas
04-29-08, 12:28 PM
CyLowe was implying he might want to rollout earlier than 6. I have to leave work in Aurora to get there on time so too much earlier means that I become part time.

well i dont really want to ride unless its with you guys and colorchange...

CyLowe97
04-29-08, 12:29 PM
Well, last week there were big clouds off to the west and we cut the ride short (skipping the second 'loop'), but if the sun is out a 6 pm roll out would be okay.

Plus, it's a week later in spring, so that's like 9 more minutes of daylight, right? :)


well i dont really want to ride unless its with you guys and colorchange...
Awwww.......

nietsmas
04-29-08, 12:33 PM
well i don't want to just be that random guy that shows up. "Hey guys! Let's ride bicycles!"

CyLowe97
04-29-08, 12:39 PM
well i don't want to just be that random guy that shows up. "Hey guys! Let's ride bicycles!"

Hey, that's basically what I did the first time I showed up to the Tuesday nighter.

There are usually a lot of riders, some go out earlier and others stagger out onto the roads. Psimet and I showed up and rode with a guy we have never met. No one else was there by 6, so off we went. And we got our hides handed to us. The other rider was FAST! It was humbling and fun all at the same time.

We dropped into the pub post ride and got to know a few others who had been riding. Good time.

nietsmas
04-29-08, 12:40 PM
also, the temps are supposed to be upper 40's. knickers or tights? sort of in-between temps for me...

ColorChange
04-29-08, 12:50 PM
OK, I'm in for sure. I'll be there a little early. Upper 40's knee warmers, lower 40's light tights for me.

If we're going to have a beer I'd better drive over so I have someplace to put my bike.

nietsmas
04-29-08, 12:55 PM
i'm going home now to get my bike and gear. i'm in for sure as well.

CyLowe97
04-29-08, 01:00 PM
Upper 40's you say? Hmmm... that's right near my cutoff point between sleeveless and short sleeved jersey.... what to do, what to do?


Okay, it's decided: Full tights, long sleeve jersey, defeet blaze wool socks, cap under helmet and wind vest. I'll be good to go with that.

Psimet2001
04-29-08, 01:19 PM
Temp is at a wierd spot for me. Lower 40's = setup I wore this weekend (just look for any of the pictures of me suffering off the back of the crit on Saturday :( ) Upper 40's to 50's and it's knee warmers with arm warmers and vest.

Link to route map.

http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/il/barrington/395625588

Psimet2001
04-29-08, 01:45 PM
my MotionBased link as well for last week. As you can see we cut out the second short loop.

http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/5473741

CyLowe97
04-29-08, 01:52 PM
my MotionBased link as well for last week. As you can see we cut out the second short loop.

Wussies!

Hey, we carpooling?

Psimet2001
04-29-08, 01:56 PM
Wussies!

Hey, we carpooling?

Yes...yes you are...I mean yes we are....

ColorChange
04-29-08, 03:20 PM
Gonna head home early and try to fix my cadence magnet situation.

nietsmas
04-29-08, 03:30 PM
Yes...yes you are...I mean yes we are....

what car are you guys driving? just park in the penny road pub parking lot?

CyLowe97
04-29-08, 03:42 PM
what car are you guys driving? just park in the penny road pub parking lot?

Go back to the gravel lot behind the pub. You'll see other cars with bike racks.

Psimet2001
04-29-08, 03:55 PM
Driving my Impala - crap colored. Go figure.

ColorChange
04-29-08, 04:04 PM
Driving my Impala - crap colored. Go figure.

LOL! That's funny.

cyclpsycho
04-29-08, 04:36 PM
The wife is at a meeting -- hope she makes it home in time for me to make it! Otherwise, its baseball practice with me boys.

nietsmas
04-29-08, 09:47 PM
great to see everyone along with meeting some new bfnic'ers. nice route with some decent hill climbs.

definitely do not have my 'summer' legs but it felt good to get out and ride with a group.

here's my ride data:

Moving Time (h:m:s) 1:28:03
Distance (mi ) 28.58
Moving Speed (mph) 19.5 avg. 36.0 max.
Elevation Gain (ft) +1,592 / -1,590

Avg. Heart Rate 170 bpm *maxed out at 188* (lol sam, lol)

rob, here's the link to my motionbased data so you can export. let me know if you need a training center file...
http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/5531850

-sam

ColorChange
04-30-08, 07:55 AM
We had a really nice ride. Unfortunately, the pizza and beer afterwards made it a net loss night from the fitness standpoint, but a nice gain from the social standpoint. ;)

I haven't downloaded my data yet.

nietsmas
04-30-08, 09:34 AM
I haven't downloaded my data yet.

tim, what was the long polar device mounted on your seat stay? is that the speed sensor?

Psimet2001
04-30-08, 09:45 AM
tim, what was the long polar device mounted on your seat stay? is that the speed sensor?

It's the black box. He's required to carry one now since the NTSB got involved.

ColorChange
04-30-08, 10:04 AM
Sam, batteries for the power meter (which sits on the chain stay).


Psi, how the heck did you find out about that?

ColorChange
04-30-08, 09:30 PM
Here's my data.

Data Value Unit
Duration 1:29:26
Sampling Rate 1 s
Cycling Efficiency 21.9 %

Energy Expenditure 1302 kcal
Number of Heart Beats 13864 beats
Recovery -30 beats
Minimum Heart Rate 88 bpm
Average Heart Rate 155 bpm
Maximum Heart Rate 221 bpm
Standard Deviation 13.5 bpm

Minimum Speed 1.2 mph
Average Speed 19.5 mph
Maximum Speed 39.2 mph
Distance 29.1 miles
Odometer 253 miles

Minimum Cadence 29 rpm
Average Cadence 91 rpm
Maximum Cadence 120 rpm
Coasting Time 0:20:32 (23.0 %)
Coasting Distance 6.5 miles (22.2 %)

Minimum Altitude 689 ft
Average Altitude 787 ft
Maximum Altitude 853 ft
Ascent 1260 ft
Descent 1230 ft
Slopes 2
VAM 845 ft/h

Minimum Power 1 Watts
Average Power 280 Watts
Average Power (0 W incl.) 210 Watts
Maximum Power 763 Watts
Pedaling Index Average 24 %
Pedaling Index Maximum 85 %
Left Right Balance Average L50 - 50R Left - Right
Left Right Balance Maximum L93 - 7R Left - Right

ColorChange
04-30-08, 09:38 PM
Neits,

Our data is in agreement in some areas, but off in others. Distance is poor at 29.1 miles for me and 28.6 for you. Climbing is also off: I got 1,260 ft and you got 1,592 ft. Speed is exact.

Hmmm... anyone else? Maybe I'll check my calibrations.

ColorChange
04-30-08, 10:02 PM
Psyco, Cylow and Psi, did you guys get data?

Psimet2001
04-30-08, 10:28 PM
I forgot to hit start on my Garmin. :( = no usable data for me.

nietsmas
05-01-08, 06:31 AM
Neits,

Our data is in agreement in some areas, but off in others. Distance is poor at 29.1 miles for me and 28.6 for you. Climbing is also off: I got 1,260 ft and you got 1,592 ft. Speed is exact.

Hmmm... anyone else? Maybe I'll check my calibrations.

tim,
the only thing i can think of that explains the difference in distance is that you rode past the pub at the end while rob and i didn't. i'd probably rely more on the garmin elevation data as it's recorded by my altimeter and then adjusted by motionbased according to their maps...

and nice avg power output! what's the margin of error on the polar power units?

-sam

nietsmas
05-01-08, 06:31 AM
I forgot to hit start on my Garmin. :( = no usable data for me.

were you able to use my motionbased export files?

CyLowe97
05-01-08, 07:20 AM
I blame ColorChanges extra mileage on the fact that he was riding circles around the rest of us. ;)

Distance: 28.4 miles
Time: 1:25:41. This is ride time only, as the time will stop when not in motion.
Avg ~ 19.8

This is from a lowly Trek cyclometer, but it has been known to be fairly accurate, if not a tick on the low side when it comes to distances. And for what it's worth, I stopped my data when I got to the Pub, so the little cooldown 1/2 mile is not part of this. Yes, sometimes I am vain and don't want to slough off the average speed with a cool down. :) So this may account for CC's extra distance.

Psimet2001
05-01-08, 07:39 AM
were you able to use my motionbased export files?

Yes. I'm just taking data and putting it into Bikewire.

aham23
05-01-08, 07:41 AM
i see right through this and cant believe no one else has! this is an obvious attempt by CC to fabricate awesomeness. he has programmed his computer to read more distance into a ride. this way he is always in front. distance wise for each ride and the year!!!

or not. back to my coffee.

later.

ColorChange
05-01-08, 07:45 AM
Neits, ah ha ... that's the distance difference. Good. The ascent on the Polar is not as accurate and I believe your numbers.

Here is a detailed review on power meters (older Polar).

http://www.biketechreview.com/archive/pm_review_2.htm

They conclude the following:

The Polar comparison indicates that there is a general decreasing trend over the power spectrum, which means that the Polar consistently under-reports power relative to the SRM as power output increases.

From Polar, they say 5%

Technical Specifications
Operating
temperature: 0 °C to +50 °C / 32 °F to 122 °F
Batteries: two AAA type batteries
Battery life: average 50 riding hours
Accuracy of power
output measurement: average ±5% (range 50 - 1000 W)

So since the accuracy drops above 1,000 watts I just trained myself not to push so hard anymore. :rolleyes:

Cylowe ... didn't I see you in front of me at the finish?:p

Ahem ... I would never fake awesomeness. Especially when Recursive might be around. I'm still a "Peddlewan Learner".

aham23
05-01-08, 07:50 AM
statistics aside, this was a nice effort you all put in. i am still having a hard time getting out of bed, walking up and down stairs, squating, and so on. :)

man, i think i need a ride. my awesomeness is getting restless.

later.

cyclpsycho
05-01-08, 07:13 PM
O.K. my Flight Deck:

1:24:33 -- ride time only - stops when I stop. I also start and stop at the Penny Rd/Old Sutton intersection.
28.54 Distance
37.8 Max
20.2 Avg

Sorry, no fancy graphs :rolleyes:

ColorChange
05-01-08, 07:46 PM
Thanks Psycho.

OK, I think we're all in pretty good agreement. My avg speed is lower and distance is higher as I included the cool down.

Psimet2001
05-01-08, 08:14 PM
O.K. my Flight Deck:

1:24:33 -- ride time only - stops when I stop. I also start and stop at the Penny Rd/Old Sutton intersection.
28.54 Distance
37.8 Max
20.2 Avg

Sorry, no fancy graphs :rolleyes:

Slacker.

Psimet2001
05-01-08, 08:15 PM
I mean.....:D

Psimet2001
05-06-08, 07:27 AM
I might be in again for tonight. Anyone else?

CyLowe97
05-06-08, 07:33 AM
I might be in again for tonight. Anyone else?

You might be in again after last week??? You are the MAN!


I may be in, but not the whole route. Been sick since Saturday (no, I'm not sandbagging). Definitely no post-ride carbs for me, for sure. :(

nietsmas
05-06-08, 08:24 AM
i'm up for it. funny how much difference in temperature a week makes...

dave342
05-06-08, 12:54 PM
great to see everyone along with meeting some new bfnic'ers. nice route with some decent hill climbs.

definitely do not have my 'summer' legs but it felt good to get out and ride with a group.

here's my ride data:

Moving Time (h:m:s) 1:28:03
Distance (mi ) 28.58
Moving Speed (mph) 19.5 avg. 36.0 max.
Elevation Gain (ft) +1,592 / -1,590

Avg. Heart Rate 170 bpm *maxed out at 188* (lol sam, lol)

rob, here's the link to my motionbased data so you can export. let me know if you need a training center file...
http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/5531850

-sam

Holy Crap you guys can move. Good thing I can't make or else I'd be off the back talking to Psimet2001*

nietsmas
05-06-08, 01:09 PM
at 19.5, psimet and i were at the back :/