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xccx
 
i'm trying to get some answers on what hubs ppl use and if they have had luck (good or bad) using a quick release on track ends.

thanks in advance

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dirtyphotons
 
i have had much good luck with qr and track ends. i usually use a mountain skewer and get it tight enough that you start to feel resistance when the qr is 90 degrees from the plane of the wheel.

Ronsonic
 
Shimano or Campy or Mavic QRs all work for me. But these are the old school style with the lever coming out the side of the cam body. Them new fangled straight-lever things don't work worth a damn. Okay, they mostly work well enough for vertical dropouts and forks with lawyer lips, mostly.

xccx
 
i have had much good luck with qr and track ends. i usually use a mountain skewer and get it tight enough that you start to feel resistance when the qr is 90 degrees from the plane of the wheel.

thanks, but what is the spacing? i cant use mtn skewers because my rear spacing is 130

Elisdad
 
From IRO's site: (http://irofixedgear.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=4)

Rear Dropout 132.5mm

Your road hubs should be fine, as will mtn hubs.

Psydotek
 
What about a quick release with some MKS chain tugs or Surly Tuggnuts?

Ronsonic
 
The MTB skewers I've seen have enough thread to work with 130, but there is a bit of extra axle sticking out the end - uh, about 5mm I'd guess. I don't know that there is any other difference between road and MTB skewers. Anyway you'll want steel skewers, this is no place for titanium or other lightweight stuff.

Just a basic skewer like the one Tullio Campagnolo invented back in the 30s for use with bikes that had track ends.

dirtyphotons
 
i use mtb (135) skewers with road (130) hubs. long as there's enough threading it's no problem.

Ziemas
 
From IRO's site: (http://irofixedgear.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=4)

Rear Dropout 132.5mm

Your road hubs should be fine, as will mtn hubs.

The new IRO site lists the rear spacing as 130mm. Better call and ask to be sure.

http://shop.irocycle.com/shop/product.php?prod=Rob%20Roy%20Bike%20Build&productid=16362&cat=1&page=1

Elisdad
 
I just shot IRO a message through their web form on the site. It'd be nice to be sure that I can use the mtn hubs that I have been planning on using for my group buy frame.

Ziemas
 
I just shot IRO a message through their web form on the site. It'd be nice to be sure that I can use the mtn hubs that I have been planning on using for my group buy frame.

I just checked my group buy frame and it appears to lean more towards the 132.5mm side of things, coming in at almost 132mm on my digital calipers.

Elisdad
 
Tony replied and said the spacing was 130, but he could fit a 135 in the dropouts. I tried it last night with an Alex wheel that I have as well as an old 26" MTN wheel. Both wheels fit, but the fit was a little better when using the MTN wheel with 135 spacing.

mconlonx
 
Nexus 8 hub is supposed to be somewhere between 132 and 133, and it fit the RR frame like it was made for it...

doctordan
 
My Phil Wood 135mm mtn hub fits just fine. My RR group buy measured 132.5 mm give or take a tenth.

Ronsonic
 
Even if the RR were a 130, which it isn't, it does run a bit wide, resetting for a 5mm difference is essentially trivial. Find the oldest bike shop in town and let them do it.

xccx
 
Even if the RR were a 130, which it isn't, it does run a bit wide, resetting for a 5mm difference is essentially trivial. Find the oldest bike shop in town and let them do it.

perhaps a follow up question:

is there any danger or performance issues with running a 135 hub in 130 track ends?

also,

what do you mean by "resetting for a 5mm difference?"

thanks again

Ronsonic
 
The rear of a steel frame can be adjusted for a different axle width. The process is called "resetting" you can call it "bending" if you like but that doesn't sound as nice and technical. Two parts to it: spreading the rear triangles to the correct width and making sure the dropouts or track ends are parallel. It's that last thing that'll get you when you stuff in the wrong width axle. If the ends aren't close to parallel, the wheel will tend to slip and over stress the skewers and axles and bearings if you crank down hard enough to make up for it.

Since the RR is designed to take either 130 and 135 wheels it should have none of these problems. Clamp it down and ride.

doco
 
yes, you can use 135 or 130 spacing on the rr

I have put on my mt hubs 135 and also my track hubs(120mm with 10mm spacers) , both work fine

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