Mountain Biking - Fox Decals.

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Trekbikedude
05-04-08, 07:14 PM
On my fox f100 rlc, the little gray decals began to peel because my zip ties on my speedometer screwed em' all up. These buggers are really stubborn to peel off so I was wondering if there was any way that'd make it easier to take them off.
Heat?
Thanks for any help, I've seen a few forks with them off and I was wondering how it was done.
Not sure but some things to try are Goof Off, it should disolve the adhesive especially if you have some already peeled back, finger nail polish remover or paint thinnner. I'd save the thinner for last. It should not mess with the paint on the leg since it's baked on but test underneath a leg with a q-tip first. Work the fluid under the peeled back portion and try to minimize contact with the paint.
free_pizza
05-04-08, 07:25 PM
Those are load bearing stickers, leave them on.
Trekbikedude
05-04-08, 07:47 PM
What do you mean they're load bearing? They support something? The Mccoine guy runs his fork with out them.
Dannihilator
05-04-08, 07:47 PM
With patience.
Trekbikedude
05-04-08, 07:48 PM
yea smashy, how did you get yours off I mean if I do it the way I was, I won't have anymore fingernails.
rankin116
05-04-08, 07:49 PM
hair dryer and they will peel right off.
http://www.all4humor.com/images/files/Gross%20Foot%20Peel.jpg
Trekbikedude
05-04-08, 07:51 PM
looks like sunburn to me.
Siu Blue Wind
05-04-08, 08:20 PM
Ewww. That's hella nasty.
Trekbikedude
05-04-08, 08:30 PM
hairdryer + rubbing alcohol for the win.
Got em off in no time.
The fork looks way better too. I took the top 2 decals off but left the fox logo on.
free_pizza
05-04-08, 08:51 PM
you were warned.....
What do you mean they're load bearing? They support something? The Mccoine guy runs his fork with out them.
first of all, its mcoine.. not Mccoine.. second, that guy has no idea what he's doing.
Load bearing decals (lbd's) are not something you want to mess with..
edit: I only take the lbd's off for pics.. I put them back on for riding.
Trekbikedude
05-04-08, 08:56 PM
my bad.
where would I find a load bearing decal?
free_pizza
05-04-08, 08:58 PM
my bad.
where would I find a load bearing decal?
your lbs should have them in stock, just ask. They arent expensive, maybe $20 or so.
Trekbikedude
05-04-08, 09:00 PM
you were warned.....
dude what are you talking about?
They aren't under the stress of any load.
your lbs should have them in stock, just ask. They arent expensive, maybe $20 or so.
I got a set of ultralight carbon lbd's through Universal cycles on special order for $18.99, and they have a variety of colors.
Trekbikedude
05-04-08, 09:06 PM
what the hell is a lbd?
what the hell is a lbd?
Load bearing decals
Trekbikedude
05-04-08, 09:14 PM
yea, but what do they do? Support something?
kramnnim
05-04-08, 09:40 PM
The structural integrity of your fork has been compromised due the to lbd removal. You'd better remove the fork as soon as possible...and mail it to me, for proper disposal.
The structural integrity of your fork has been compromised due the to lbd removal. You'd better remove the fork as soon as possible...and mail it to me, for proper disposal.
Yeah, since its warranty has now been voided.
What a n00b, removing a lbd....
the nice thing about a cheaper fork is that you don't need LBDs. most people don't know about this.
Siu Blue Wind
05-05-08, 12:06 AM
Well no wonder the Kona has no LBDs. Dang.
Tom Stormcrowe
05-05-08, 12:50 AM
By the way, you can also get an acceptable substitute for lbd's at a truck stop or a Farm and Fleet store, and cheaper as well.....no Fox Logo though. Go to the parts counter and ask them for some. Tell them they are right by the Jake Brake fluid if you go to a T.A Travel Center or to Quality Farm and Fleet. They are used in the suspension system of the Air Ride trailers.
Siu Blue Wind
05-05-08, 12:58 AM
But those aren't the genuine LBDs. I'd stick to the genuine ones. You don't want anything to happen. Just sayin'....*shrugs* :rolleyes:
No one has suggested the user-customizable, bulk LBD. They have it in rolls (but only in silver) and you can write on it. The cool thing is that it works for other stuff too.
boyvirgil
05-05-08, 06:08 AM
lol lbds
East Hill
05-05-08, 07:15 AM
lol lbds
Whaaaat?
I have a photo of some lbds floating around here, let me see if I can find the photo...
Edit: Here you go:
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k317/East_Hill/My%20bikes/IMG_2110.jpg
This is a one off, custom lbd.
East Hill
Tom Stormcrowe
05-05-08, 07:23 AM
That's true, and NASA even uses it. ;)
No one has suggested the user-customizable, bulk LBD. They have it in rolls (but only in silver) and you can write on it. The cool thing is that it works for other stuff too.
Shimano has transparent lbd's. A bit spendy, but worth if for the uniqueness factor. They are all I will use. I also prefer the Shimano seat post bearings.
santiago
05-05-08, 08:26 AM
I heard of a guy who got injured by either breaking or spraining his ankle. One of his riding buddies happened to have the right tools with him and used the LBD as a splint to help him get out of the woods.
I heard of a guy who got injured by either breaking or spraining his ankle. One of his riding buddies happened to have the right tools with him and used the LBD as a splint to help him get out of the woods.
Not true. I checked snopes.com, and it was all made up.
Siu Blue Wind
05-05-08, 09:17 AM
I heard of a guy who got injured by either breaking or spraining his ankle. One of his riding buddies happened to have the right tools with him and used the LBD as a splint to help him get out of the woods.
But how did the bike fare?
LBDs should never be removed. Really. The fork legs would move independently. Not good.
santiago
05-05-08, 09:29 AM
But how did the bike fare?
LBDs should never be removed. Really. The fork legs would move independently. Not good.
Well, I think it came down to a choice between the bike and the injured guy. They did try to ride out the bike but it collapsed. I think they built an inukshuck of sorts out of the broken bike bits. This is assuming it's a true story as Brian pointed out it may be slight exaggeration.
Well, I think it came down to a choice between the bike and the injured guy. They did try to ride out the bike but it collapsed. I think they built an inukshuck of sorts out of the broken bike bits. This is assuming it's a true story as Brian pointed out it may be slight exaggeration.
It's doubtful though, seems pretty legit. LBD's are not something to be taken lightly - at all!, and if i find out there has been even the slightest hint of sarcasm here, i will not be happy.
santiago
05-05-08, 09:39 AM
Exactly. Most people think that why Fox forks sent to Push are tons better because of the revalving and the improved seals. That's part of it, but the main reason is because Push upgrads the LBD to one they developed.
http://www.pushindustries.com/media/gallery/Carla%20Spot%20Hub.jpg
Siu Blue Wind
05-05-08, 09:45 AM
Wow Santiago. That's some serious stuff there. If/when I ever invest in a higher line fork I will make sure to never remove the lbd.
That's scary.
I have an extra Fox lanyard from Interbike, if anyone is interested. I thought they were called "geeks straps", but someone pointed out they have a name.
legalize
05-05-08, 09:59 AM
So where the heck is this decal on the above picture?
There's a sticker that secures a bearing?
HUH? I'm so confused. Is this on the fork? The hub? HUH!~?!?
Siu Blue Wind
05-05-08, 10:30 AM
It's the one that says "FOX". Like in the title of this thread, silly.
East Hill
05-05-08, 10:54 AM
So where the heck is this decal on the above picture?
There's a sticker that secures a bearing?
HUH? I'm so confused. Is this on the fork? The hub? HUH!~?!?
legalize, if you look very closely at the photo I provided, you will see that someone tried to remove the decal, resulting in a dent appearing in the tube.
The Bible verse employed is specifically designed for that application:
And when thou art laid waste, what wilt thou do?
East Hill
Chris_F
05-05-08, 11:28 AM
I lost my very first mountain bike frame because I removed the LBD. I got the frame used and was cleaning it up and decided to strip off the decals. All was going well until I hit the LBD and it was under so much stress that the frame just snapped like a twig! Really, it was like releasing a big spring and the frame fractured with a loud BANG and popped right open. I know most LBDs aren't that bad but some of those things are under enormous stress and removing them can be downright dangerous. Maybe the frame was damaged or something, I can't imagine it was designed that way.
legalize
05-05-08, 11:45 AM
East hill, WTF!? LOL I see that but how can a sticker maintain the entire integrity of a frame!?!?!?
is there an LBD on all bikes?
I don't get it...this is so funny..a sticker holding together the bike..im confused still...sorry
Chris_F
05-05-08, 11:49 AM
is there an LBD on all bikes?
I don't get it...this is so funny..a sticker holding together the bike..im confused still...sorry
Not all bikes. It's definately more common on carbon frames and lighter alloy frames but you do find the odd one on others as well. You can usually tell by running your fingernail over the edge of them. The LBD are about 50% thicker than the other decals on the frame (although sometimes they clear-coat over them so this isn't a fool-proof approach).
As for forks, I didn't know they were using them on forks. Is this a relatively new thing?
Chris_F
05-05-08, 11:52 AM
No one has suggested the user-customizable, bulk LBD. They have it in rolls (but only in silver) and you can write on it. The cool thing is that it works for other stuff too.
They sell black as well, although you don't see it as often. I've seen other colors as well. But silver is by far the most common.
(although sometimes they clear-coat over them so this isn't a fool-proof approach).
In this case, the clear coat is actually load bearing.. but that would be a lbcc. IMO, thats the way to go.
Siu Blue Wind
05-05-08, 02:30 PM
LBCCs are a whole different world, mcoine. Let's not start a new confusion here.
WrenchDevil6
05-05-08, 02:54 PM
There was talk in the industry back in the late 80's of the possibility of helmet manufacturers changing over to LBDs in order to increase the integrity of their product. This idea was squashed due to the fact that the LBD made the helmet almost bomb-proof and would ultimately result in a large reduction in helmet sales. It would have aided riders immensely but would have crippled the helmet industry so they decided to stick with the IMD (Inferior Manufacturer Decal) sometimes called ISD (Inferior Stock Decal)... depends on which coast you're on.
LBDs are, as has been stated, nothing to take lightly. As it relates to the PUSH LBDs, if you look at the sheer size of that logo, it goes to proof of the structural integrity of the entire fork/LBD relationship. The price of the fork reflects and testifies to the power of LBDs.
ProFail
05-05-08, 03:31 PM
Oh you guys. :rolleyes:
Siu Blue Wind
05-05-08, 07:16 PM
*ahem* :rolleyes:
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