Coaster brakes/foot brake/back pedal brake

[Animalmother]

I think there all the same thing. I was wondering if I could put these on my DK and how it would work and what part I needed. I want simple brakes.
Here is a pics of my DK in the link below on:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12037800@N02/

[NJ Jersey Fresh]

y would you want them if you dont mind me asking

[Animalmother]

It's a bike to get around, I'd rather have them. I remember having them way back when, they seemed reliable and simple. I just want them, dunno why. But I forgot almost everything about them. Including their existance.

[ChristAir]

Yep. They should fit. Just make sure you attach the brake arm SECURELY to the frame.

[Animalmother]

Are we talking about the right brakes? The ones I am talking about are the type where you pedal backwards and it catches the mechanism in the rear hub and it stops the bike. Brake arm?

[Animalmother]

I googled it and this topic as well.

Where can you get these type?

[ChristAir]

Secondhand shop. Piece-of-junk wal-mart kid bikes have them. Let me look around for newer ones. Oh yeah! Skyway mag wheels have them. Forgot about that.

[ChristAir]

Google is just pulling up wal-mart bikes. My dad has two sets from back when dirt was new. Haha. And all of mine came from a secondhand shop.

[ChristAir]

Look for stuff like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/Bicycle-part-Wheel-Rear-Coaster-ShimanoWeinmann-519-rim_W0QQitemZ380020740703QQihZ025QQcategoryZ48845QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp163 8Q2em118Q2el1247

Sorry about the long URL. The wheel is pricey, but it'll hold up. I'll search some more to see if I can find some better prices.

[ChristAir]

Check this out: http://www.nextag.com/shimano-hub/search-html

Much better price. And you can lace the wheel yourself. I get a link to a guide tomorrow.

[Animalmother]

The Shimano you found here:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0013VNDMW?smid=A2TE9IQP68MWQU&tag=nextag-sports-mp-20&linkCode=asn

How does the chain connect to this? Looks like theres no freewheel.

[Animalmother]

I'm thinking about getting this one for my DK.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bicycle-part-Wheel-Rear-Coaster-ShimanoWeinmann-519-rim_W0QQitemZ380020740703QQihZ025QQcategoryZ48845QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp163 8Q2em118Q2el1247

Think everything would be alright installing?

[ChristAir]

Yeah...uh...sorry for being unclear. I forgot to mention than you would need to get one of the cogs off the same page as the hub. I had posted a lot because after the Google search I did, I realized Shimano makes a coaster brake hub. So then I searched for that hub and found the eBay item. I thought you might not want to spend that kind of money, so I went I looked for the by itself. Nextag pulled up the result shown in my last post. If you don't want to get the hub by itself and buy the cog separately, then the eBay wheel is a great buy. There are cheaper wheels on eBay ($20 w/ s&h), but they come off kid's wal-mart bikes and I've had problems with these so I recommend you go ahead and get that other one. Some, however, are cheap and still pretty good, like this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/Schwinn-Stingray-FASTBACK-coaster-brake-Rear-Wheel-NICE_W0QQitemZ190219508981QQihZ009QQcategoryZ156523QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem.

Oh yeah, none of the wheels on eBay seem to include the part to attach the brake arm to the frame. You need something like this http://cgi.ebay.com/Bicycle-Part-BRAKE-COASTER-ARM-TO-FRAME-STRAPS_W0QQitemZ380021381704QQihZ025QQcategoryZ7295QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1 638Q2em118Q2el1247. You place the arm under the left chainstay (bottom bar), wrap the strip around the bar, and use a screw and nut to attach it to the bar.

[JeanCoutu]

I'm thinking about getting this one for my DK.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bicycle-part-Wheel-Rear-Coaster-ShimanoWeinmann-519-rim_W0QQitemZ380020740703QQihZ025QQcategoryZ48845QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp163 8Q2em118Q2el1247

Think everything would be alright installing?
The Shimano E110 has a good rep in SSFG forum.

[Animalmother]

So if I get this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/Bicycle-part-Whe...2em118Q2el1247 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Bicycle-part-Wheel-Rear-Coaster-ShimanoWeinmann-519-rim_W0QQitemZ380020740703QQihZ025QQcategoryZ48845QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp163 8Q2em118Q2el1247)

It's all I need right? No other parts? I read you telling me about a cog, errr i couldn't find it on th page. Is it needed though?

[StephenH]

The majority of your braking capacity is actually on the front wheel, due to weight shift when braking. So for tootling around the neighborhood, coaster brakes work great. For higher speed cycling, not so hot, and that's why you won't see many higher-dollar bicycles with them.

They also can't handle long descents- if you ride down any mountains, not the brake to use.

I don't see that the ebay wheel there has the sprocket on it, and not sure how much they run. Before buying something online, you might just check at your local bike shop as well.

Maybe someone with more experience could fill in a detail here. But it seems to me that the bike frames with multi-sprocket gears in back are distinctly wider than the bike frames with coaster brake hubs. So I don't know that any hub/axle will fit any frame, or what the limitations are.

[ChristAir]

The majority of your braking capacity is actually on the front wheel, due to weight shift when braking. So for tootling around the neighborhood, coaster brakes work great. For higher speed cycling, not so hot, and that's why you won't see many higher-dollar bicycles with them.

They also can't handle long descents- if you ride down any mountains, not the brake to use.

I don't see that the ebay wheel there has the sprocket on it, and not sure how much they run. Before buying something online, you might just check at your local bike shop as well.

Maybe someone with more experience could fill in a detail here. But it seems to me that the bike frames with multi-sprocket gears in back are distinctly wider than the bike frames with coaster brake hubs. So I don't know that any hub/axle will fit any frame, or what the limitations are.

AM is wanting to get one for his BMX. It will probably be a little wider like you said, but nothing a few washers can't fix. And a sprocket can be placed on separate, that way you get the gearing size you want. Also, you CANNOT use a singlespeed gearing on a multispeed frame because the singlespeeds work off of chain tension, whereas multi's use the deraileur for tension. You can't use a multi on a single frame either. You could put the singlespeed wheel on a multispeed frame with the deraileur for tension, but that would be pointless.

[Animalmother]

Alright buds I got this fairly firgured out, thanks for all your help guys and GREAT responses but I do have something unrelated to add.

I got some rustolium automotive white/grey primer for my bike and sprayed it after it was sandblasted. Do I have to sand it down? Is it necessary? I'm going to paint it rustoilium flat black.

The primer is still fresh by a few hours. Should I wipe it down with a rag dry/wet? Rinse it? Or just paint over it without sanding.

[ChristAir]

NJ Jersey Fresh is the paint king, so if he doesn't reply to your post, PM him for help.

[Animalmother]

That's cool, speaking of fresh. The primer is still fresh. i'll wait for a reply from somone and see what's up. This is my first time actually painting anything with spray paint. Good thing too, thanks bud.

[ChristAir]

No problem.

[imcrushingyerhd]

I recently found out that there's quite an underground of old school riders/builders out there and you can find a swap meet in just about any big city. Check your local bike shop. Someone above mentioned Skyway mags. I also had a set of Z Rims back in the day and they had a coaster too. You gotta go old school to get any kind of quality setup, and yah make sure the brake arm is mounted to the frame or your coaster will unspin on the fly.