Mountain Biking - Is there such a thing as a MTB Fred?

Or are all MTBers Freds? Or are MTBers too cool and inclusive and Kum Bay Ya to use such an elitist Road Nazi label? I consider myself a total MTB Fred of the lowest order. I go into the woods dressed like a road racer with MTB shoes on.

If it makes you feel better, Road Nazis have no particular disdainful term for MTBers. It's like they're some unknown species, you better not F with them, and anybody crazy enough to bomb down single track @ 30 mph is a stoner better left unturned if you know what I'm saying, and I know you do.

Or are all MTBers Freds? Or are MTBers too cool and inclusive and Kum Bay Ya to use such an elitist Road Nazi label? I consider myself a total MTB Fred of the lowest order. I go into the woods dressed like a road racer with MTB shoes on.

If it makes you feel better, Road Nazis have no particular disdainful term for MTBers. It's like they're some unknown species, you better not F with them, and anybody crazy enough to bomb down single track @ 30 mph is a stoner better left unturned if you know what I'm saying, and I know you do.

I dress like a road turd sometimes. Sometimes I wear normal shorts and a t-shirt. Sometimes I wear shin-guards.

MTB'ers have normal people, racers and OCP's.

MTB'ers have normal people

That is highly debatable.

That is highly debatable.

It's true. We keep several as pets.

It's true. We keep several as pets.

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

Hey, it was your poor grammar that made it appear that way.

Or are all MTBers Freds? Or are MTBers too cool and inclusive and Kum Bay Ya to use such an elitist Road Nazi label? I consider myself a total MTB Fred of the lowest order. I go into the woods dressed like a road racer with MTB shoes on.

If it makes you feel better, Road Nazis have no particular disdainful term for MTBers. It's like they're some unknown species, you better not F with them, and anybody crazy enough to bomb down single track @ 30 mph is a stoner better left unturned if you know what I'm saying, and I know you do.

I could tell you were a fred from your first post. If you ever meet Gastro you'll know how far down the totum pole you really are.

i believe that the mtb community generally starts younger in peoples lives than the road bike desire. As such everyone can relate to a time when we were poor, and thus don't ridicule people just starting out. Just look at mtbers opinion of hardrocks...cheap but functional so people like them. It seems like roadies enjoy the price tag more than functionallity in some cases.

i believe that the mtb community generally starts younger in peoples lives than the road bike desire. As such everyone can relate to a time when we were poor, and thus don't ridicule people just starting out. Just look at mtbers opinion of hardrocks...cheap but functional so people like them. It seems like roadies enjoy the price tag more than functionallity in some cases.

Good point. Similar to how BB7 brakes are a favourite, too.

Good point. Similar to how BB7 brakes are a favourite, too.

Only if you don't know any better.

Roadies do have a disdainful term for mountain bikers. They call them "mountain bikers".

Mountain biking has Freds. They are known as "retro-grouches" or "hippies", and ride rigid multi-speed bikes. Note that riding a singlespeed rigid mtn bike will get you referred to as "nutjob", "goof" or "weirdo" but not as a retro-grouch or hippy. Sporting lycra sans baggy shorts means you are a "racer". Not saying hi to other trail users makes you a "******bag". Riding around the trailhead on a brand new bike [that is so new it still smells like the cardboard it was shipped in] while wearing brand new bike gear, but with your helmet clipped to the handlebars might get you labelled as a "new guy/girl". Riding the same bike around your local mall parking lot will get you labelled as a "poser".

These terms can be combined:
"Hey man! Did you see the poser? He looks like a racer, but I bet his ride has never seen dirt."
"I'm reading your mail dude. I hope that new girl remembers to put her helmet on. I thought she was a weirdo, but then I saw her talking to that ****ing hippy, and then..."
"Oh ****, here comes the hippy!"
"Quick! Hide your stash or he'll... too late!"
"Hey brah. Can I mooch on your stash, brah?"
"**** off hippy!"
"Whoa brah, what's all the negativity for? You're like, seriously making a dent in my soul, brah..."
"Dude, we just came here to ride. If you break into our car while we're riding, I'm gonna dent something for sure. Now, get back on your Miyata and get the **** away from us."
"Wow, brah. There is so much harsh energy here, I don't want to contaminate my aura." <rides off on 80's era Ridgerunner>
"Man, that was close. Let's hit it."
<roadie rides by to go do hill repeats on access road> "Goddamn mountain bikers!"
"Huh?"
"******bag."

Only if you don't know any better.

Or for those on a budget who want disc brakes. The BB7s have their place and are tons better than a lot of the Shimano entry-level discs found on $500 hard tails.

Or for those on a budget who want disc brakes. The BB7s have their place and are tons better than a lot of the Shimano entry-level discs found on $500 hard tails.

Is your meter broke? Heck I run BB7s. They work great for a 70 yr old geezer.

Is your meter broke? Heck I run BB7s. They work great for a 70 yr old geezer.

Sorry, I've been conditioned to only allow "sucks" through.

What do you call someone with a penchant for riding into trees?

Mountain biking freds ride green bikes. Girls like freds.

The bike of a Fred - it would be me of course. Notice the well warn appearance, having gone where no sane roadie would dare to go...

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb310/crtreedude/BikeAndRiver.jpg

What do you call someone with a penchant for riding into trees?

'Me'.

Or are MTBers too cool and inclusive and Kum Bay Ya to use such an elitist Road Nazi label? I consider myself a total MTB Fred of the lowest order.


yes

yes, but we don't call them "freds", we call them "pcads"

yes, but we don't call them "freds", we call them "pcads"

That's almost as pathetic as your Ritchey seat post rants.

Almost.

The bike of a Fred - it would be me of course. Notice the well warn appearance, having gone where no sane roadie would dare to go...

Not true...a MTB Fred or whatever freakin' pcadroadies call them are too dang tight to ride a bike that can design their own headshok

Not true...a MTB Fred or whatever freakin' pcadroadies call them are too dang tight to ride a bike that can design their own headshok

If I smoke a bong will I understand this comment?

That's almost as pathetic as your Ritchey seat post rants.

Almost.

I think you're confusing me with someone else.. I've never ranted about Ritchey seat posts, positive or negitive.

If I smoke a bong will I understand this comment?

I dunno...did it work for you last time?

I think you're confusing me with someone else.. I've never ranted about Ritchey seat posts, positive or negitive.

Sorry, just taking a page from the Republican National Committee playbook. Works for them. Didn't mean to go negitive on you.

Nobody here can spell expect Pcad.

I dunno...did it work for you last time?

He probably can't remember.. it was 1971.

negative!

pcad... You have to ask ?

I am the king of Freds in any environment and love dropping guys on "better" rigs than my faithful old Trek.

http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikepics/meandjenny.jpg

Sorry, just taking a page from the Republican National Committee playbook. Works for them. Didn't mean to go negitive on you.

Nobody here can spell expect Pcad.

Back to the bong for you, Jimmy.

Not true...a MTB Fred or whatever freakin' pcadroadies call them are too dang tight to ride a bike that can design their own headshok

I would have thought that the mud flaps would have given me an honorable mention at the very least. What can I say, I live in a rainforest. :eek:

Sorry, just taking a page from the Republican National Committee playbook. Works for them. Didn't mean to go negitive on you.

Nobody here can spell expect Pcad.

except, not expect ... :rolleyes:

Bongs RULE.

except, not expect ... :rolleyes:

Oh, you are perceptive cr. That's impressive.

Only you rule Jimmy...just you.



(smacking Jimmy's nutz) :deadhorse:

Oh, you are perceptive cr. That's impressive.

Just trying to help you out, old man. You could have been funning with us, or you could be senile. Hard to tell...

Just trying to help you out, old man. You could have been funning with us, or you could be senile. Hard to tell...

That is an early sign of Alzheimer's.

I too wondered this as I started to MTB this year. So far, I have to say the MTB crowd is substantially more open and friendly.
I go a decent amount of group rides with the local club in Indy. There is a great number of roadies that are very nice and friendly on the weekend rides. They are freds I am sure. Then there are always a good number of the better riders that come off like deeks. Giving mean looks to everyone, obviously evaluating equipment, dress, etc. The weeknight training rides have many more of the deekhead types.

But at the local MTB trail (indy has few) which can be quite crowded - EVERYONE seems to say hey. People are friendly when they come up behind and need to pass. People are friendly as they pass. People are friendly as they are passed.
Now, there are signs at the start that are posted by the local MTB club that ask in no uncertain terms that riders be nice to others, to the trail, etc. Making it clear that being nice and maintaining the trail is the best way to keep the trail and welcome new riders.

That's just the way "off-roadies" roll. We don't have to be told to be nice. (except on the forums, hahaha) Really, I think the only time we're not nice around here is when somebody waltzes in and starts bashing what we hold sacred.

We've all been beginners at some point, so we don't get pissed off if we have to put a foot down to wait for the noob in front of us on that technical climb. We cheer him/her on! We are nice to them in the parking lot b/c we could always use a new beer-buddy. (JK...I drink Dr. Pepper;))

It's fun to be nice.

We won't sneer at you if you decided to go steel over carbon. We're just happy to have another person out on the trail with us. Crap, dude...as much crap as Rutnick and I threw back and forth at each other last year, I still invited him out for a ride any time he came slumming here in Kansas. I meant it. I don't care if I get dropped on a climb, I gauge my success on how well I can bunny hop my own vomit on the way down the next DH, hehe.

Welcome to MTB'ing Indygreg...as much discord as I have for Jimmy, I'd still ride with the guy as long as he threw some baggies over his tighties, hahaha.

yeah about that . . . I still rock the roadie shorts and jersey at the trail. It just feels normal. I want to get a pair of MTB shorts with a liner and chamios just to feel somewhat normal. And maybe a semi-loose jersey. But I love my jersey pockets.

And I have already had a good run-in with Rutnick. :) He did invite me down in a very nice PM to the trails of KY.

All MTB'ers are Freds. The elitism in road cycling comes from its European roots. Mountain Biking is an American invention so it's very red-neck. The MTB'ers who stick out are the ones who DON'T drink Bud Lite and sleep with their sister.

As for me, I don't have a sister, but my brother-father and I fit right in!

yeah about that . . . I still rock the roadie shorts and jersey at the trail. It just feels normal. I want to get a pair of MTB shorts with a liner and chamios just to feel somewhat normal. And maybe a semi-loose jersey. But I love my jersey pockets.

And I have already had a good run-in with Rutnick. :) He did invite me down in a very nice PM to the trails of KY.

I was JK dood.

I ride with spandex-clad diehards. I don't care.

I would have thought that the mud flaps would have given me an honorable mention at the very least. What can I say, I live in a rainforest. :eek:

Yep, and this is why you can no longer post pictures. It makes me want to move every time.

love dropping guys on "better" rigs than my faithful old Trek.


So your mtb satisfaction comes from gloating?

Bad attitude is indirectly proportional to the length of hair on a male cyclist's legs.

One other difference I've noticed between roadies and MTB'ers:

Roadies take pictures of their clean, shiny bikes carefully positioned in front of white garage doors.

MTB'ers take pictures of their dirty, worn bikes leaning against foliage, rocks, or just lying on the ground.

All MTB'ers are Freds. The elitism in road cycling comes from its European roots. Mountain Biking is an American invention so it's very red-neck. The MTB'ers who stick out are the ones who DON'T drink Bud Lite and sleep with their sister.

As for me, I don't have a sister, but my brother-father and I fit right in!

and like Pcad, don't partake of the bong.

Do you put as much effort into riding your bikes, as you do into stereotyping the different genres of bike riders?

Do you put as much effort into riding your bikes, as you do into stereotyping the different genres of bike riders?

Probably not, I only rode 37,000 road miles since April of 2005.

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