bloke
05-10-08, 04:13 PM
Which matters most in wheel stiffness? Which would be better: a 32 spoke butted or a 28 spoke sraight?
Road Cycling - spoke count vs. spoke gauge
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AEO
05-10-08, 04:15 PM
which wheel? front or rear? what kind of lacing pattern?
rruff
05-10-08, 09:31 PM
For the same weight, the more spokes the better. But stiffness doesn't really matter... and fewer spokes is better for aero.
urbanknight
05-10-08, 10:23 PM
Standard butted spokes are just as strong as straight gauge... stronger according to some people.
Spoke count, rim strength, and proper spoke tension make the wheel durable (but not necessarily stiff)
Spoke count, rim strength, and proper spoke tension make the wheel durable (but not necessarily stiff)
eb314
05-10-08, 10:26 PM
I thought more spokes were better for aero...
urbanknight
05-10-08, 11:00 PM
I thought more spokes were better for aero...
Quite the contrary.
Quite the contrary.
rruff
05-10-08, 11:45 PM
I thought more spokes were better for aero...
You might have a point. Infinite spokes would be like a disc... which is pretty aero. On the other hand, I think zero spokes would be aero also.
You might have a point. Infinite spokes would be like a disc... which is pretty aero. On the other hand, I think zero spokes would be aero also.
enjoi07
05-10-08, 11:56 PM
You might have a point. Infinite spokes would be like a disc... which is pretty aero.
or a huge disadvantage depending on cross winds
or a huge disadvantage depending on cross winds
bloke
05-11-08, 04:57 AM
What I want to know is which handles drive torque better.
rruff
05-11-08, 08:37 AM
What I want to know is which handles drive torque better.
I don't feel like calculating it right now, but the amount of wind-up will be tiny with 28 or 32 spokes... especially if it is a stiff hub with large flanges and is 3x on both sides.
Use butted spokes... better fatigue strength.
I don't feel like calculating it right now, but the amount of wind-up will be tiny with 28 or 32 spokes... especially if it is a stiff hub with large flanges and is 3x on both sides.
Use butted spokes... better fatigue strength.
urbanknight
05-11-08, 09:22 AM
What I want to know is which handles drive torque better.
I'd say 48 spokes laced 5 cross handle torque the best, but that's overkill unless you're a pair of clydesdales doing tandem track sprints. :D
I'd say 48 spokes laced 5 cross handle torque the best, but that's overkill unless you're a pair of clydesdales doing tandem track sprints. :D
Mr. Beanz
05-11-08, 10:08 AM
What I want to know is which handles drive torque better.
I read on Sheldon's site theat the trailing spokes on the drive side should be on the inside of the hub flange for reinforcement while under torque. SO I built all my wheels that way and no problems.
My rear wheels are Velocity Deep V's, 32 staight gauge 3X and they are stiff. Too heavy for the weight weenies though!:D
I read on Sheldon's site theat the trailing spokes on the drive side should be on the inside of the hub flange for reinforcement while under torque. SO I built all my wheels that way and no problems.
My rear wheels are Velocity Deep V's, 32 staight gauge 3X and they are stiff. Too heavy for the weight weenies though!:D