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bdcheung
05-10-08, 06:52 PM
Just came across some good dividends from my investments.

I had been eying these wheels (http://www.competitivecyclist.com/road-bikes/product-components/2008-shimano-dura-acedt-rr-1.1-tied--soldered-pav%C3%A9-wheelset-4964_41_TRUE.html) for a while. The only training wheels I have now are a set of Alexa rims that came stock with my original Felt, they weigh about 2200 grams.

These would certainly be great training wheels, but do I really need them?

Note that I commute 56 miles round-trip every friday to/from work


Edit: fixed the link

SpongeDad
05-10-08, 07:03 PM
The link is not working, but if the Alexa's are doing the job why spend the dough on anything? 2200 g is heavy, but I bet you don't worry about them when you're cranking down on a trainer.

gtmandsager
05-10-08, 07:04 PM
Seems like a bit of overkill, don't you think? If they're just training wheels, ride 'em until you see a problem with 'em. Save the money for an SRM or a big upgrade.

Right now I'm struggling to find an affordable training/racing wheelset, but the downside is that whatever goes into the wheels comes out of a down payment on our house. Maybe I should get me some "dividends"...

king-tony
05-10-08, 07:04 PM
They are swiss, you need them.

waterrockets
05-10-08, 07:10 PM
First off, that web site sucks so much ass, they deserve to be out of business. I can't even browse to the stupid product b/c of the load times. ffs.

Screw that. Shouldn't you be buying a PowerTap training wheelset?

joecool2727
05-10-08, 07:13 PM
First off, that web site sucks so much ass, they deserve to be out of business. I can't even browse to the stupid product b/c of the load times. ffs.

Screw that. Shouldn't you be buying a PowerTap training wheelset?

Doesn't he already have a Ptap?

You don't need those wheels unless you're pounding the cobbles of Paris-Roubaix. But you're a Cat4 and are not. Ultegra open pros.

Coyote2
05-10-08, 08:07 PM
Yeah, if you like to waste money, then yes, you should buy those wheels.

bdcheung
05-10-08, 08:10 PM
I've got a powermeter that i'm perfectly happy with.

The Alexa's are heavy and cheap, but I guess I can ride them until they break. After all, they're freaking training wheels.

Thanks for the reality check - I'll stick the money in a high-yield savings account. Or maybe I'll invest in China.

Coyote2
05-10-08, 08:12 PM
I've got a powermeter that i'm perfectly happy with.

The Alexa's are heavy and cheap, but I guess I can ride them until they break. After all, they're freaking training wheels.

Thanks for the reality check - I'll stick the money in a high-yield savings account. Or maybe I'll invest in China.

I'm happy enough with Fiestaware, but whatever...

JonRags
05-10-08, 08:19 PM
IMO, if it's for the bike, you need it. But I also think that if your are training/commuting, use the current wheels for as long as you can.

bdcheung
05-10-08, 08:28 PM
...if it's for the bike, you need it....

Please have a chat with my wife. I could benefit from her adopting your philosophy.

JonRags
05-10-08, 08:48 PM
Once I get my wife to buy that theory..........

Phatman
05-11-08, 08:34 AM
Those wheels cost too much for what they are. four years ago, I bought a set of hand built dura ace 7700 / open pro wheels for 300 bucks. DT swiss r1.1 rims are not that good. I had one built onto my powertap, it cracked in a year.

botto
05-11-08, 08:39 AM
Just came across some good dividends from my investments.

I had been eying these wheels (http://www.competitivecyclist.com/road-bikes/product-components/2008-shimano-dura-acedt-rr-1.1-tied--soldered-pav%C3%A9-wheelset-4964_41_TRUE.html) for a while. The only training wheels I have now are a set of Alexa rims that came stock with my original Felt, they weigh about 2200 grams.

These would certainly be great training wheels, but do I really need them?

Note that I commute 56 miles round-trip every friday to/from work


Edit: fixed the link

why?

SpongeDad
05-11-08, 08:44 AM
And where is the obligatory Mike Garcia nod? BF is getting slow on the draw.

Might be better off getting a slightly used set of Kysriums from a weenie for $400. I have SL's, which are probably around 1600g (reportedly less, but who knows) and I have ridden over rocks and through pot holes that should have knocked them out of true - 6000 miles later, they are still perfect. You can bag on Mavic for being overpriced, but the wheels are solid. I'm clocking in around 162 lbs, so I'm definitely not a featherweight.

botto
05-11-08, 08:55 AM
And where is the obligatory Mike Garcia nod? BF is getting slow on the draw.

Might be better off getting a slightly used set of Kysriums from a weenie for $400. I have SL's, which are probably around 1600g (reportedly less, but who knows) and I have ridden over rocks and through pot holes that should have knocked them out of true - 6000 miles later, they are still perfect. You can bag on Mavic for being overpriced, but the wheels are solid. I'm clocking in around 162 lbs, so I'm definitely not a featherweight.

that's the provenance of road cycling, where they don't know any better.

grolby
05-11-08, 10:09 AM
Almost $700 for 1810g wheels? Sounds like a rip-off to me.

justinb
05-11-08, 10:39 AM
The same wheelset, minus the tie/solder part is available from Colorado Cyclist for 450ish.

blavelle
05-11-08, 07:17 PM
these are better and way cheaper:

I know a whole team who uses these and no one has had problems.

http://www.neuvationcycling.com/product27.html

NeelsGap86
05-11-08, 07:25 PM
these are better and way cheaper:

I know a whole team who uses these and no one has had problems.

http://www.neuvationcycling.com/product27.html

Wow, those are some nice wheels.

I only have one set of wheels and they came with the bike.

This fall/winter, I plan on getting some cheap training/base wheels. The heavier, the better. :thumb:
I'm kidding. I'll be going to college in the mountains and some winter beater wheels should do.

Although...I wish I had the money to buy a training bike. Do you guys do this or just train on your 'only' bike year round?

I'm still just starting out in cycling but I have grown a lot since I started. I'm loving it.

brianappleby
05-11-08, 07:28 PM
+1, Neuvation, Performance brand, Mavic Aksium etc. If you buy $650 training wheels, you're wasting your money. They won't last as long as two $300 pairs.

It's a good idea to train on the bike you plan on racing with. However if it's raining or snowing, i'll train on my fixed-gear commuter.

bdcheung
05-11-08, 07:31 PM
I decided not to get them in Post #8

brianappleby
05-11-08, 07:33 PM
i know, i just like to hear myself talk... or whatever the internet equivalent of that is.

I had the same inner dialogue when I saw those wheels. And it's nice to know i prob. made the right decision.

FatguyRacer
05-11-08, 07:41 PM
All the best hipsters ride tied and soldered wheels. Why should I talk you out of it? :p

Coyote2
05-11-08, 08:25 PM
All the best hipster doofus types ride tied and soldered wheels. Why should I talk you out of it? :p

Fixed that for you.

platypus
05-11-08, 11:31 PM
In the words of Eddy Merckx:


Don't buy upgrades, ride up grades.

Bullseye
05-11-08, 11:39 PM
The sound of all of botto's unanswered questions is ringing loudly in my ears.

-bullseye