[blorg1]

As the thread title says, I'd be interested in feedback on the differences between these brakes:

Campagnolo Veloce (85mm) - €58
Campagnolo Mirage (85mm) - €50
Tektro Mini-V (80mm) - €36

These are the options I have from this Geman eBay shop (http://search.stores.ebay.ie/RoBa-Shop_brake_W0QQfciZQ2d1QQfclZ3QQfsnZRoBaQ20ShopQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsaselZ87780419QQsofpZ0), if anyone has other convenient options for a European I'd be happy to hear them.

I'd be using these with Shimano 105 STI levers. Converting from Shimano Altus cantis which are dreadful.

What are the issues with 85/80mm - which is better for braking, what are the trade-offs (clearance?) Am I right that 80mm should require less cable pull (and thus work better with STI shifters) but have slightly less clearance?

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[isotopesope]

85mm is the proper length for sti's.

[Elmar Schrauth]

the 926 is bullsh...
take tektro rx 5 , stronger springs than campy ,lighter ,cheaper ,85 mm
cheaper brakepades,
standard brakepads will fit
campy has an own standard .


elmar

[Hitch]

Not to threadjack...
Anyone know when the Tektro RX6 (http://www.tektro.com/02products/10qb.php) will be released?
They have 90mm arms and Quick Release.

[Elmar Schrauth]

90mm ist too long
it will cause a bad "pressurepoint"

[blorg1]

Thanks for that Elmar. So 926 is the Tektro part number for that 80mm, right? Any idea where to find these RX5 that will ship to Ireland; for some reason Germany seems to be the home of mini-V brakes ;-) Do you sell them yourself? I'm sending you an email in case you do for more info.

[Elmar Schrauth]

germany is the home of the mini-v ,because i am the mini-v missionary man .
i hab1000 ridicoulous dicussions wizjh guys who newer rode them ,but wrote.
now more than 50 % of the riders use mini-v.

the only disadvantage is less mud clearnace , and a softer pressurepoint.
i rode 3 seasons now,with 15-20 races /year .
i never hard to change the bike more often ,than the other guys,in muddy races..
a very big advantage is that mini-v brakepads fit with nearly every rim ,
you dont have to change pads ,when changing rims from alloy to carbon .
they wor in rain and snow much better .
the pressurepoint can be much better with nokon or jagwire reinforced ones. the ones from shimano for mechanical disc-brakes work ,.too.
there is absolutely no fork-shutter .
you save a lot of money ,because even cheap brakepads work .
you can use avid tuningkits to get a weight to 120 gramm.

[dzinehaus]

whats so great about mini-v brakes?

[Erik B]

whats so great about mini-v brakes?

They'll actually stop a bike in a reasonable distance.

[Elmar Schrauth]

whats so great about mini-v brakes?

brakepads fit with nearly every rim ,

you dont have to change pads ,when changing rims from alloy to carbon .
they work in rain and snow much better .
there is absolutely no fork-shutter .
you save a lot of money ,because even cheap brakepads work .
they are cheap

[rickyaustin]

I'm dumb. Will mini-vs work on a Cross Check?

If so - do you recommend any particular ones?

[blorg1]

They should do, yes, they use the same fitting points as cantilevers so if you have canti bosses they will fit onto the frame/fork.

[dzinehaus]

brakepads fit with nearly every rim ,

you dont have to change pads ,when changing rims from alloy to carbon .
they work in rain and snow much better .
there is absolutely no fork-shutter .
you save a lot of money ,because even cheap brakepads work .
they are cheap

I use cantilever on the front, long reach caliper on the back.
I dont understand why you would not have to change pads when changing rims from alloy to carbon. I though carbon rims need special pads.

I can understand they work better for rain/snow because the seem to have a higher pull potential with the arms being lower/closer to the pads.

I don't understand how it will fit nearly every rim, don't you still have to adjust the pad angle in or out to make contact with the rim properly?

[Elmar Schrauth]

all pads work on all rims ,that we use
i use 5 different alloy , 3 different carbon rims
they dont squeeze .
in cyclocross rims dont become hot , perhaps thats the reason .