Bicycle Mechanics - Hub cup/cone or cartridge?

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seitenryu
05-15-08, 05:25 AM
Would the hub ID for the cups/races usually correspond to a cartridge bearing size? I'm wondering if instead of junking some Dura-Ace hubs they can see new life. I know Suntour used an adjustable cartridge setup and MOST(japanese) hubs use the same number of bearings. Sam


dabac
05-15-08, 06:21 AM
Would the hub ID for the cups/races usually correspond to a cartridge bearing size?

Maybe if you're better att finding a source than I am.
I've done such a rework once, but it required sticking the hub in a lathe first.
If I recall the numbers right Shimano cup OD is something like 29.6 or 29.4 mm, and the closest cartridge bearing I could find was 30.0 mm.

For a front hub there might be a workaround available by going down one size in axle dia, to 8 mm. That'd let you choose a bearing with a smaller OD that could be fitted in place of the cup by the use of a shim or a bushing.

If you have a go at this, remember that (the most common type of) cartridge bearings get unhappy real fast if subjected to an axial load. You have to use an inner sleeve of some sort to take the load generated by clamping the wheel in the dropouts.

seitenryu
05-15-08, 07:10 AM
thanks, that means at least one other person thinks this is approachable. Somehow, and we won't say how,
the races and cones from my dura-ace hubs are rusted.


dabac
05-15-08, 08:49 AM
..that means at least one other person thinks this is approachable.

Well, it all depends on what your resources are, and how much you enjoy tinkering. But with access to a well-equipped workshop, or with friends who have access to a well-equipped workshop there certainly are a bunch of odd modifications within reach.
W/o workshop access I think your options are limited though. Cones are easily replaceable and I've occasionally managed to scrounge and transplant cups from hubs that had been scrapped for other reasons.