Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Cant get Paul's E-Lever on Nitto Bullhorns

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whalesalad
05-16-08, 06:58 PM
I have some RB-018-HT Bullhorns from Nitto and just received a Paul's E-Lever in the mail... but cannot seem to get it onto the bars. Any ideas? From all that I have read in terms of sizes this is certainly possible....


tynan
05-16-08, 07:34 PM
I have some RB-018-HT Bullhorns from Nitto and just received a Paul's E-Lever in the mail... but cannot seem to get it onto the bars. Any ideas? From all that I have read in terms of sizes this is certainly possible....


With most of the slide on (non-hinged) levers you need to get a screwdriver into the opening and prise it apart before installation on bullhorns or drop handlebars.

My Paul Comp would not even get half way around the first bend (Nitto drops) until I gently put an extra 3-4 mm into the space between the ends of the opening in the clamp - my track drops are even more tightly curved than a set of RB-018-HT Bullhorns so it should be fairly easy.

If you are precious about the finish on your new lever - stick a tea towel or bit of cloth (so as not to scratch the finish) over the business end of the screwdriver before gently levering open. If you are precious about the finish on your bars lightly sand the leading edge/corners of the clamp opening so it is not so sharp. Should take you 5 minutes to install successfully.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/4928/clampap7.jpg

whalesalad
05-16-08, 07:37 PM
Awesome dude, thanks for the pix. And now I know I'm not the only one with a right hand front brake lever :)


whalesalad
05-16-08, 07:37 PM
And wow, I have ultegra's too. Nice white paint, how did you do that?

trevor_birba
05-16-08, 07:40 PM
don't take this offensively tynan, but you have one of the most tarck bikes i have ever seen.

tynan
05-16-08, 07:44 PM
Awesome dude, thanks for the pix. And now I know I'm not the only one with a right hand front brake lever :)

I am in the UK, this is the standard way over here !

tynan
05-16-08, 07:46 PM
And wow, I have ultegra's too. Nice white paint, how did you do that?

The caliper ? It is a Dura Ace, taken apart, powdercoated white, the bolts and screws matt black - reassemble = job done.

tynan
05-16-08, 07:50 PM
don't take this offensively tynan, but you have one of the most tarck bikes i have ever seen.

I am not sure what 'tarck' means other than an idiom of 'track' - and why saying I have the most 'tarck' (track) bike you have ever seen would be considered offensive ?

Thanks anyhow (I think?) :)

whalesalad
05-16-08, 07:56 PM
I'm diggin' the pink brake cable too, may I inquire where that is from :)

You're the guy with the glowing seat post too right? haha.

tynan
05-16-08, 08:29 PM
I'm diggin' the pink brake cable too, may I inquire where that is from :)

You're the guy with the glowing seat post too right? haha.

Yep, that's me :)

The cable is from a bike shop in central London called Cavendish cycles.

MIN
05-16-08, 08:37 PM
you can use a beer can shim cut with scissors. note that it must be pabst blue ribbon or it will not work. about 3 overlaps should do the trick.

eXCeSS
05-16-08, 08:47 PM
you can use a beer can shim cut with scissors. note that it must be pabst blue ribbon or it will not work. about 3 overlaps should do the trick.

are you ****ing kidding
did you even read anything?

Gordo789
05-16-08, 10:38 PM
Awesome dude, thanks for the pix. And now I know I'm not the only one with a right hand front brake lever :)

haha, i thought i was the only one.

riotboy
05-16-08, 10:59 PM
Yep, that's me :)

The cable is from a bike shop in central London called Cavendish cycles.

dude can we just see the rest of your bike? im really diggin the whole pink/blue/white color scheme. very nice! mine is pink/blue/black

beardzilla
05-17-08, 02:32 AM
Awesome dude, thanks for the pix. And now I know I'm not the only one with a right hand front brake lever :)

if you only have one break (front or back) you should always have it on the side that is your dominant hand side, left handed goes left, right handed goes right. its apparently "easier" to regulate stopping power with your dominant hand, or so says my book on bike building haha

whalesalad
05-17-08, 03:53 AM
Finally got the ******* on.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3209/2498289625_436302cc15.jpg

Took some gentle prying, just as you suggested, and a ton of anal lube. jaykay. I love it!

riotboy
05-17-08, 04:05 AM
and a ton of anal lube. jaykay. I love it!

mmmmm XOXOXO

dobber
05-17-08, 06:11 AM
My Paul Comp would not even get half way around the first bend (Nitto drops) until I gently put an extra 3-4 mm into the space between the ends of the opening in the clamp - my track drops are even more tightly curved than a set of RB-018-HT Bullhorns so it should be fairly easy.

While your directions are spot on, I'd question the 3-4mm. That's about a 1/4", quite a bit to be flexing a stubby piece of aluminum.

bionnaki
05-17-08, 08:57 AM
has anyone tried de-anodizing and polishing the e-lever?

BMonei
05-17-08, 09:18 AM
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/4928/clampap7.jpg


Are you riding that stem with only one clamp?

tynan
05-17-08, 10:07 AM
While your directions are spot on, I'd question the 3-4mm. That's about a 1/4", quite a bit to be flexing a stubby piece of aluminum.

Yeah maybe you are right, it does sound like a lot, maybe start with a couple of millimeters and see how you go.

tynan
05-17-08, 10:10 AM
Are you riding that stem with only one clamp?

LOL :) ! No !!!! And well spotted. :thumb:

That picture was taken midway through a rebuild of the front end.

tynan
05-17-08, 10:13 AM
dude can we just see the rest of your bike? im really diggin the whole pink/blue/white color scheme. very nice! mine is pink/blue/black

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6499/h3vs2.jpg

BMonei
05-17-08, 10:20 AM
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6499/h3vs2.jpg

You should consider white leather track grips.

Ohhh, the absurdity.

tynan
05-17-08, 10:25 AM
Ohhh, the absurdity.

:)

ecp8
05-17-08, 10:45 AM
OP - Getting back to the original question. I used a screwdriver to open the ring up a little bit and then used dishwashing fluid to give it some glide. You can then rinse off the dishwashing fluid without leaving a residue.

trevor_birba
05-17-08, 12:01 PM
he already got it on.

read the thread, and then comment.

riotboy
05-17-08, 12:11 PM
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6499/h3vs2.jpg



i think i just peed

solbrothers
05-17-08, 12:44 PM
be careful when prying the brake lever open. it'll break *pun intended*

i broke my tektro *sp?* lever. what a waste of $20.

i finally found a clamp on lever that is hinged. worked great.

tarckbear
05-17-08, 12:54 PM
dia compe goldfinger lever is hinged and seems to work great.

ralphm2k
05-17-08, 05:42 PM
I puked.

ralphm2k
05-17-08, 05:44 PM
dia compe goldfinger lever is hinged and seems to work great.

And it's less than $20.

tynan
05-17-08, 06:18 PM
I puked.

The Dia Compe Goldfingers aren't that bad ! :)

ralphm2k
05-18-08, 03:09 PM
The Dia Compe Goldfingers aren't that bad ! :)

Goldfingers rule. I was talking about the rest of the mish mash that it was attached to.

tynan
05-18-08, 04:19 PM
Goldfingers rule. I was talking about the rest of the mish mash that it was attached to.

What was the Goldfinger attached to ?

Did someone post a picture of a bike with a Goldfinger ?

ralphm2k
05-18-08, 04:49 PM
What was the Goldfinger attached to ?

Did someone post a picture of a bike with a Goldfinger ?


Oups my bad. I wasn't paying attention.... I think I had a seizure.
The e-brake is cool too... but for the $$$, not so much.

chrissmedley
07-30-08, 11:23 PM
can someone point me toward that all-white (including body) paul comp lever? i'm having the hardest time finding it for sale.

Fleetdog
07-31-08, 10:29 AM
Since my questions got buried in the other thread by the flame war, I'll try here.

Tynan, what are the all white brakes that you used? Did you have those powdercoated also or did they come all white?

Does anyone know if the snafu c-lever (which is much cheaper than the Pauls and comes in a mostly white option) will fit on the 26mm part right next to the stem on a nitto bar?

whalesalad
07-31-08, 12:57 PM
Since my questions got buried in the other thread by the flame war, I'll try here.

Tynan, what are the all white brakes that you used? Did you have those powdercoated also or did they come all white?

Does anyone know if the snafu c-lever (which is much cheaper than the Pauls and comes in a mostly white option) will fit on the 26mm part right next to the stem on a nitto bar?

That snafu lever looks like its pure BMX, which sounds like it will be 22.2mm -- no dice. Not sure though, could always give it a shot (they seem to be pretty cheap online, amazon has it for $16)

Also, Tynan posted what kind of brake he was running as well earlier on in the thread:


The caliper ? It is a Dura Ace, taken apart, powdercoated white, the bolts and screws matt black - reassemble = job done.

Geordi Laforge
12-02-08, 05:45 AM
possible to slide an e-lever onto 26.4mm bars? I know they fit snug on 26.0mm; would 0.4mm make a difference?

jdms mvp
12-02-08, 06:07 AM
this bike was also the bike with the monospoke "hed" wheel.

trons
12-02-08, 06:07 AM
people can get 26.0 bars into 25.4 stems without much hassle. i'm sure you'll find a way...

Ride Among Us
12-02-08, 08:10 AM
tynan, that bike is amazing. i don't recognize that frame. but you did so much custom work to that bike and thats what i respect. the colors are not for me, but i understand why you would. people in here player-hating are just jealous that they can't do anything original and unique. powdercoating parts of your bike is a great effort.

xlazymx
12-02-08, 08:14 AM
nubie question, whats the point of hed3's and aerospoke over just regular spokes?

Jabba Degrassi
12-02-08, 08:56 AM
HED3s: Aerodynamics.
Aerospokes:Not a god damn thing.

erichsia
12-02-08, 09:02 AM
In the future, just grease your bars, no need to pry open the e-lever clamp. That just seems like a great way to weaken the lever clamp. I got one on some pursuit bars just by greasing the bar and shimmying it on. Prying it open is absolutely not necessary.


possible to slide an e-lever onto 26.4mm bars? I know they fit snug on 26.0mm; would 0.4mm make a difference?

No. The Paul E-lever will not fit on any bar over 24mm. I think it's actually specced for 23.8 maximum. If you try to get one on a 26.4 bar, you're just going to be wasting your money.

Geordi Laforge
12-02-08, 11:30 AM
have you tried this yourself?

the e-lever diameter is 23.8mm and fit the diameter of 26.0mm bars (whatever the non-clamp diameter would be - not sure of this). I am just curious if the 0.4mm would be much of a hindrance.

I use a e-lever on a pair of 26.0mm bars. I used grease and slightly pried open the clamp with a screwdriver - it slide right on. I think it's possible to make the extra half of a millimetre, but I havent tried it yet. Has anyone tried it?

The Paper Boy
12-02-08, 11:43 AM
nubie question, whats the point of hed3's and aerospoke over just regular spokes?

http://www.bobkestrut.com/images/Intersection_cover.jpg

erichsia
12-02-08, 12:45 PM
have you tried this yourself?

the e-lever diameter is 23.8mm and fit the diameter of 26.0mm bars (whatever the non-clamp diameter would be - not sure of this). I am just curious if the 0.4mm would be much of a hindrance.

I use a e-lever on a pair of 26.0mm bars. I used grease and slightly pried open the clamp with a screwdriver - it slide right on. I think it's possible to make the extra half of a millimetre, but I havent tried it yet. Has anyone tried it?

The reason this is a stupid idea is that your lever clamp is pried open all the time now to a size that is bigger than it should be used for. Do you try to fit bars that are too big for a quill stem by prying the stem open and using the bars as a means to keep the clamp widened? This method should be used to fit the right sized components more easily, not jam ill-fitting brake levers on bars it is too small to clamp around. The lever is aluminum, it's going to snap off instead of keeping it's shape like steel.

No I haven't tried it. I have more common sense than that. 23.8mm to 26 mm is not a .4mm difference. It's 2.2mm difference. 26.4 makes it 2.6mm.

Geordi Laforge
12-02-08, 02:02 PM
actually, yes, I do slightly pry quill stems open to fit handlebars - matching sizes often do not slide in easily. Coins work great for this.

And you're incorrect. the e-lever does not rest on the bulge of the stem (what is measured at 26.4mm or 26.0mm) as you suggest, it rests on the non-bulge area of the shoulders which is a smaller diameter than the stem bulge. It all relative to the particular bar, but I'd say in general the difference of the shoulder where the brake would go is approximately 0.4mm. Now, whether or not the e-lever will safely fit less than half a millimetre larger than spec'd is up to trial - I was just asking if anyone has been able to do so without problems particularly with the criterium bar which may or may not have a smaller diameter than the normal diameter of 26.0mm/25.4mm bars.