CrimsonEclipse
05-21-08, 05:39 PM
Another set of Big Apples?
Racers?
other?
CE
Racers?
other?
CE
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jur
05-21-08, 05:49 PM
I've got 10,000km on my R20's rear Big Apple and it's still OK for more. Front one shows no signs of wear as to be expected. Are both yours worn out, or just the rear? I would move the front one to the rear and get a new one for the front.
snafu21
05-21-08, 11:24 PM
"I've got 10,000km on my R20's rear Big Apple "
:eek::eek::eek:
At that wear rate I'm surprised Schwalbe sell any...
I've just put a pair on my folder, they're so good I don't think I'd replace them with anything else, although the Schwalbe Kojack looks kinda sporty. Too sporty for anything other than tarmac though.
:eek::eek::eek:
At that wear rate I'm surprised Schwalbe sell any...
I've just put a pair on my folder, they're so good I don't think I'd replace them with anything else, although the Schwalbe Kojack looks kinda sporty. Too sporty for anything other than tarmac though.
social suicide
05-22-08, 06:47 AM
I'm running Odyessy Frequency G's on my R20. Love em. At $20 apiece the price was right! The skinwall version is also available now.
invisiblehand
05-22-08, 01:02 PM
Another set of Big Apples?
Racers?
other?
CE
If you are happy with the Big Apples why switch?
Racers?
other?
CE
If you are happy with the Big Apples why switch?
rhm
05-22-08, 01:10 PM
Another set of Big Apples?
Racers?
other?
CE
How many miles did you have on the Big Apples? And what size are they, 16" or 20"? I ask because my front tire, a 16 x 2" Big Apple, has about 2000 miles on it now, during which I've gone through three rear tires: a 16 x 1.5" Schwalbe Marathon and two 16 x 1.35 Primo Comets. To be fair, the Marathon and one of the Comets were already a little worn before I installed 'em.
Racers?
other?
CE
How many miles did you have on the Big Apples? And what size are they, 16" or 20"? I ask because my front tire, a 16 x 2" Big Apple, has about 2000 miles on it now, during which I've gone through three rear tires: a 16 x 1.5" Schwalbe Marathon and two 16 x 1.35 Primo Comets. To be fair, the Marathon and one of the Comets were already a little worn before I installed 'em.
CrimsonEclipse
05-22-08, 01:55 PM
My Big Apples are 20x2 and I have no idea how many miles are on them.
I don't have a computer.
I just wanted to see if there's anything better. Are Supremes better?
If not, a new set of Apples (howdooya like THEM apples?)
Oh, for the record, it's only the rear tire for now, but it's too worn to
safely go on the front side.
Cheers
CE
I don't have a computer.
I just wanted to see if there's anything better. Are Supremes better?
If not, a new set of Apples (howdooya like THEM apples?)
Oh, for the record, it's only the rear tire for now, but it's too worn to
safely go on the front side.
Cheers
CE
invisiblehand
05-22-08, 09:33 PM
My Big Apples are 20x2 and I have no idea how many miles are on them.
I don't have a computer.
I just wanted to see if there's anything better. Are Supremes better?
If not, a new set of Apples (howdooya like THEM apples?)
Oh, for the record, it's only the rear tire for now, but it's too worn to
safely go on the front side.
Cheers
CE
Marathon Supremes?
Wow ... I just checked the website, a 42-406 is in production. :cheers:
I am scared to check the price ... :cry:
I don't have a computer.
I just wanted to see if there's anything better. Are Supremes better?
If not, a new set of Apples (howdooya like THEM apples?)
Oh, for the record, it's only the rear tire for now, but it's too worn to
safely go on the front side.
Cheers
CE
Marathon Supremes?
Wow ... I just checked the website, a 42-406 is in production. :cheers:
I am scared to check the price ... :cry:
werewolf
05-23-08, 12:55 AM
Marathon Supremes?
Wow ... I just checked the website, a 42-406 is in production. :cheers:
I am scared to check the price ... :cry:
$60 in 700 size.
http://www.cambriabike.com/shopexd.asp?ID=61739
That's a lot more than many car and pickup truck tires with 100 times the material in them.
Wow ... I just checked the website, a 42-406 is in production. :cheers:
I am scared to check the price ... :cry:
$60 in 700 size.
http://www.cambriabike.com/shopexd.asp?ID=61739
That's a lot more than many car and pickup truck tires with 100 times the material in them.
sprockets
05-23-08, 05:02 AM
I like my Maxxis Hookworms.
Caaah
05-23-08, 12:46 PM
Since we're talking Big Apples, maybe you guys can give me your opinion...
I rode over a nail with mine on Monday. Annoyingly, the point of the nail was bent slightly, and poked into my sidewall. I pulled it out and looked at the hole. Really, its like a millimeter, and with the new tube inflated, it doesn't seem to stretch or open or anything. Do I really have to replace the whole tire? I will cry. Its only two months old.
I rode over a nail with mine on Monday. Annoyingly, the point of the nail was bent slightly, and poked into my sidewall. I pulled it out and looked at the hole. Really, its like a millimeter, and with the new tube inflated, it doesn't seem to stretch or open or anything. Do I really have to replace the whole tire? I will cry. Its only two months old.
Loch
05-23-08, 03:09 PM
Since we're talking Big Apples, maybe you guys can give me your opinion...
I rode over a nail with mine on Monday. Annoyingly, the point of the nail was bent slightly, and poked into my sidewall. I pulled it out and looked at the hole. Really, its like a millimeter, and with the new tube inflated, it doesn't seem to stretch or open or anything. Do I really have to replace the whole tire? I will cry. Its only two months old.
You should be okay if the hole is very small and the tube doesn't go through. Put a glueless patch on the inside of the tire just to be sure. I had a very similar thing happen with my big apples, just very bad luck. The second day I took the bike for a ride I got a bad puncture that cut about a 3 mm slash in the tire. Nothing I tried worked, the tube just kept poking through and popping, I eventually had to replace the tire. Ya, so now I have a completely useless brand new big apple tire. Pretty sad.
I rode over a nail with mine on Monday. Annoyingly, the point of the nail was bent slightly, and poked into my sidewall. I pulled it out and looked at the hole. Really, its like a millimeter, and with the new tube inflated, it doesn't seem to stretch or open or anything. Do I really have to replace the whole tire? I will cry. Its only two months old.
You should be okay if the hole is very small and the tube doesn't go through. Put a glueless patch on the inside of the tire just to be sure. I had a very similar thing happen with my big apples, just very bad luck. The second day I took the bike for a ride I got a bad puncture that cut about a 3 mm slash in the tire. Nothing I tried worked, the tube just kept poking through and popping, I eventually had to replace the tire. Ya, so now I have a completely useless brand new big apple tire. Pretty sad.
jur
05-23-08, 04:17 PM
Loch: Have you tried a tyre boot?
Caaah
05-23-08, 05:31 PM
You should be okay if the hole is very small and the tube doesn't go through. Put a glueless patch on the inside of the tire just to be sure.
That's a good idea, thanks. I hope I have better luck than you did! ;) Or maybe I'll try a boot...hmmm...
That's a good idea, thanks. I hope I have better luck than you did! ;) Or maybe I'll try a boot...hmmm...
Loch
05-23-08, 10:40 PM
Loch: Have you tried a tyre boot?
I even bought some of those Park TB-2 boots. They would work for a while, but the hole was either just a little too big or in a bad spot, it eventually gave way to the pressure (each time the hole would get a little bigger too).
A boot would probably work nicely for you Caaah, but might be more than required, which isn't really a bad thing :).
I even bought some of those Park TB-2 boots. They would work for a while, but the hole was either just a little too big or in a bad spot, it eventually gave way to the pressure (each time the hole would get a little bigger too).
A boot would probably work nicely for you Caaah, but might be more than required, which isn't really a bad thing :).
Caaah
05-24-08, 11:15 AM
I even bought some of those Park TB-2 boots. They would work for a while, but the hole was either just a little too big or in a bad spot, it eventually gave way to the pressure (each time the hole would get a little bigger too).
A boot would probably work nicely for you Caaah, but might be more than required, which isn't really a bad thing :).
Those were exactly the ones I was thinking of getting. I shall head to the LBS now. :)
A boot would probably work nicely for you Caaah, but might be more than required, which isn't really a bad thing :).
Those were exactly the ones I was thinking of getting. I shall head to the LBS now. :)
Caaah
05-27-08, 09:47 AM
Just an update:
The boot worked perfectly. And I painted on a thin coating of liquid electrical tape (3M makes it) on the outside over the tiny hole. Pumped em up to 55psi and ridden three days. The hole hasn't expanded at all yet. Whew! Hopefully it lasts.
The boot worked perfectly. And I painted on a thin coating of liquid electrical tape (3M makes it) on the outside over the tiny hole. Pumped em up to 55psi and ridden three days. The hole hasn't expanded at all yet. Whew! Hopefully it lasts.
noteon
05-27-08, 09:53 AM
FWIW... I got too many punctures on the Big Apples that came with my Matrix. I've had much better luck with the various models of Bontrager Hardcase on various bikes.
I currently have a pair on the Matrix I don't like much (it's one of the "comfort" models, and too big and slow), but I'm itching to put Bontrager Satellite Elite Hardcases on it as soon as I find an excuse.
I currently have a pair on the Matrix I don't like much (it's one of the "comfort" models, and too big and slow), but I'm itching to put Bontrager Satellite Elite Hardcases on it as soon as I find an excuse.
Caaah
05-27-08, 10:52 AM
Hmmm...I hadn't heard of those...I'll have to check them out. How's the ride? Do you ride over pavement with tons of potholes with them?
noteon
05-27-08, 10:54 AM
Hmmm...I hadn't heard of those...I'll have to check them out. How's the ride? Do you ride over pavement with tons of potholes with them?
NYC rush hour traffic.
Though to be fair, I recently moved to where I can take a bike path most of the way. But before that, I used them regularly on a 26-mile round-trip commute on Queens Boulevard and down 2nd Ave with no punctures. The Big Apples failed something like three times in two months.
I do my best to avoid glass and potholes, but sometimes the choice is between eating a pothole and getting doored.
As for the ride, they feel pretty much like the Big Apples to me. YMMV.
NYC rush hour traffic.
Though to be fair, I recently moved to where I can take a bike path most of the way. But before that, I used them regularly on a 26-mile round-trip commute on Queens Boulevard and down 2nd Ave with no punctures. The Big Apples failed something like three times in two months.
I do my best to avoid glass and potholes, but sometimes the choice is between eating a pothole and getting doored.
As for the ride, they feel pretty much like the Big Apples to me. YMMV.
Caaah
05-27-08, 11:04 AM
NYC rush hour traffic.
Though to be fair, I recently moved to where I can take a bike path most of the way. But before that, I used them regularly on a 26-mile round-trip commute on Queens Boulevard and down 2nd Ave with no punctures. The Big Apples failed something like three times in two months.
I do my best to avoid glass and potholes, but sometimes the choice is between eating a pothole and getting doored.
As for the ride, they feel pretty much like the Big Apples to me. YMMV.
Derrrr. I didn't look at your location first :lol:
26mi! Wow. Mine is only 17 (Park Slope to midtown).
Well, if I do get more punctures with the Big Apples, I'll definitely try those. Thanks!
Though to be fair, I recently moved to where I can take a bike path most of the way. But before that, I used them regularly on a 26-mile round-trip commute on Queens Boulevard and down 2nd Ave with no punctures. The Big Apples failed something like three times in two months.
I do my best to avoid glass and potholes, but sometimes the choice is between eating a pothole and getting doored.
As for the ride, they feel pretty much like the Big Apples to me. YMMV.
Derrrr. I didn't look at your location first :lol:
26mi! Wow. Mine is only 17 (Park Slope to midtown).
Well, if I do get more punctures with the Big Apples, I'll definitely try those. Thanks!
noteon
05-27-08, 11:08 AM
You take the Brooklyn Bridge? I like that ride.
Though I have to say the GW (which I now live right at) is my favorite bridge to ride over:
http://www.journalscape.com/keithsnyder/2007-12-24-16:32
There are no bridges on my commute anymore. The cherry blossoms along the Hudson are nice, but my hill-climbing ability has totally tanked.
Though I have to say the GW (which I now live right at) is my favorite bridge to ride over:
http://www.journalscape.com/keithsnyder/2007-12-24-16:32
There are no bridges on my commute anymore. The cherry blossoms along the Hudson are nice, but my hill-climbing ability has totally tanked.
Caaah
05-27-08, 02:43 PM
I was taking the Manhattan Bridge, but now I'm doing the Brooklyn Bridge to Chambers to the Hudson since I figured out that the greenway saves me time even though its a little out of the way. And, as you mentioned, its dang pretty ;)
Caaah
05-29-08, 09:44 AM
Just an update:
The boot worked perfectly. And I painted on a thin coating of liquid electrical tape (3M makes it) on the outside over the tiny hole. Pumped em up to 55psi and ridden three days. The hole hasn't expanded at all yet. Whew! Hopefully it lasts.
I was too optimistic. The tire went slowly flat over the last couple days. I haven't taken it apart yet to see what pinched the tube, but I'm guessing its the end for that Big Apple. :cry:
The boot worked perfectly. And I painted on a thin coating of liquid electrical tape (3M makes it) on the outside over the tiny hole. Pumped em up to 55psi and ridden three days. The hole hasn't expanded at all yet. Whew! Hopefully it lasts.
I was too optimistic. The tire went slowly flat over the last couple days. I haven't taken it apart yet to see what pinched the tube, but I'm guessing its the end for that Big Apple. :cry:
CrimsonEclipse
05-29-08, 10:10 PM
The Big Apples aren't puncture resistant enough. I had a flat today
through the tire and a super thick slime tube. :twitchy:
And the slime did nothing but make noise and a mess :wtf:
The Marathon Plus looks like my solution.
CE
through the tire and a super thick slime tube. :twitchy:
And the slime did nothing but make noise and a mess :wtf:
The Marathon Plus looks like my solution.
CE
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