Southern California - May 31: SART Ride

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LewisAClark
05-21-08, 06:45 PM
After the success of the B2B rides hosted by Herb, thought I'd try my hand at organizing a route that is plied by Mr and Mrs Beanz and myself; the Santa Ana River Trail.

The rally point would be Yorba Park off of Imperial Hwy and the 91 Freeway.
Roundtrip for the route would be about 60 miles. The road surfaces are better than SGRT, at least after it swings south at Lincoln Blvd. Water tends to available near the route as well. There is usually a headwind on the way down, but you get to fly on the way back. There are a great deal more underpasses to deal with not quite as many long runs as on the SGRT, but no blind tunnels and no damn dam. There are a couple of short climbs at the beginning to take a bite at the legs, but they are tolerable.
There is no food at the, but about a half mile south on PCH there are a couple of burger places. Also, about one mile from the end at Hamilton St. there is a Carls Jr.

Directions:http://www.ocparks.com/yorbapark/default.asp?Show=LocationHours
Exit the 91 FWY and proceed north to La Palma Ave; Turn RIGHT
About 1 mile down you will pass FARIMONT Ave.
Park is on right hand side about 100 yards past Fairmont where the softball fields are. Look to park by the restroom facilities towards the eastern end of the paved parking area

Figure the standard BF meet time of 8AM with a depart of 8:30


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Hat in the Ring
LewisAClark
Cole505
Mr. Beanz
Gina (aka Mrs. Beanz)
MarkAJ
herbm
Tiffanie (from HB)
Greggk
mtblukr
spinerguy
Linda and Debbie (Herb's friends)
mtbridr
lttann + 2 friends (from Anaheim Stadium)


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Hat Askew
Tortise45

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Hatless
1955
alicestrong

My pseudo route slip:
Proceed south to bike trail turn left.
Head east for 3/4 mi and turn left uphill to gain La Palma Ave
Turn right onto street and proceed 1/2 mile to access bike trail again near the carwash
Proceed about 1.5-2 mi to Weir Canyon Bridge and cross
At end of bridge circle around down to the right and keep going right to the bike path.
Follow it to the end at the Green River Golf Course in about three miles.
From there, we retrace our wheels about 9 miles to the Imperial Hwy bridge cross over. I figure we could use this as a regroup point.
Continue on the trail for about 7 miles to the restroom/water stop across from the Anaheim Arena (I refuse to call it the Pond) Another regroup here.
We cross over the bridge and pick up the trail south for the next 13 miles to the sea.

We will double back along the same route, but will not have to retrace the first part of the morning resulting in a return mileage of only 23 miles to return to the park.

Facility Distance(miles)
Water 3
Water 9
Water 17.5
Water/Restroom 22
Water/Resroom 25.3
Water 30.5
Water/Restroom (Sea) 35

Anyway, that's how I see it. I'll try to generate a map for it. At the least, I should have a paper map to hand out for interested parties at the rally point. Hope those of you from the SFV can make it.


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CritEastwood
05-21-08, 06:51 PM
I'm going to show up with no helmet and no brakes.

alicestrong
05-21-08, 07:30 PM
I'm going to show up with no helmet and no brakes.



Pictures or it didn't happen....:)


GP
05-21-08, 09:42 PM
I'm going to show up with no helmet and no brakes.

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alicestrong
05-21-08, 09:48 PM
What is the estimated speed on this ride?

LewisAClark
05-21-08, 10:33 PM
I'm going to show up with no helmet and no brakes.

Yeah, that's exactly how The Duke would roll.:lol:

LewisAClark
05-21-08, 10:45 PM
What is the estimated speed on this ride?
The winds predominately come out of the south, so I would I would expect around 16-17 mph on the way there, but with a good in wind the chops 14-15 would not be out of the ordinary for me. On the way back with the wind, I would expect 18-20 mph. Groups tend to split up along the way and there will be regroup points, so I expect we'll be together most of the time.

Mr. Beanz
05-21-08, 10:48 PM
What is the estimated speed on this ride?


Hard to say cause more riders usually show up unannounced for one thing. I thought we'd have a slow group on SGRT last time but ended up being pretty fast. Well average didn't seem to reflect the effort.:twitchy:

Last SART ride we had, several riders showed and I ended up with 80 miles and a 18 average. Big group, lots of help. The usual for Gina and I is her pace at about 16.5 lately. But 20 more miles I'd say will lower it a bit.

One thought is that a rider that thinks they may fall behind can head straight to the coast from Imperial while the others head to Greenriver. I'm sure Gina wouldn't mind being one of those riders.:D...That would tire some of the GR riders out a bit giving the others a more enjoyable ride on the return.:thumb:


We are usually at the tail end of the ride. Gina lags at the end and I slow with her, never leaving her behind. Maybe 2 or 3 behind us but they too are usually with atleast one other rider.

Good thing is that the SART is not isolated like SGRT. Always other riders, several parks and a few stores around.

1955
05-21-08, 10:50 PM
I would love to do this VERY local ride, BUT that's my weekend with my daughter...

If I've told you all once, I've told you all a thousand times...EVEN WEEKENDS ONLY!!!:)

Mr. Beanz
05-21-08, 10:57 PM
I would love to do this VERY local ride, BUT that's my weekend with my daughter...

If I've told you all once, I've told you all a thousand times...EVEN WEEKENDS ONLY!!!:)


I tried to tell LewisAC but he wouldn't listen to me!:roflmao2:...Too bad, we'll miss you Ralphie Boy, you're a fun guy!:thumb:

1955
05-22-08, 12:23 AM
I tried to tell LewisAC but he wouldn't listen to me!:roflmao2:...Too bad, we'll miss you Ralphie Boy, you're a fun guy!:thumb:

Well, thanks for trying.

You know, it seems that I miss half the BF rides this way.:rolleyes:

rooftest
05-22-08, 12:29 AM
Yorba Regional Park is a big park - unless you pick a more specific meeting spot, you'll never find each other.

I would suggest parking near the softball fields - it's free there. Driving up La Palma from Imperial, it'll be a right turn just after the light at Fairmont.

LewisAClark
05-22-08, 12:40 AM
Yorba Regional Park is a big park - unless you pick a more specific meeting spot, you'll never find each other.

I would suggest parking near the softball fields - it's free there. Driving up La Palma from Imperial, it'll be a right turn just after the light at Fairmont.
Thanks for the heads up rooftest. I've been by the park from the trail many times, but never went into the park. I was going to check out a meeting place there this weekend on the way to visit my folks. I really like your suggestion of the FREE section of the park as I had no idea ther was a fee. Who do they think tehy are El Dorado!!! I will pick a definite rally point after the reconnoiter this Sunday.

Tortise45
05-22-08, 09:33 AM
Toss me in as a maybe for this ride. I'll know more as that weekend gets closer. :)

Condorita
05-22-08, 10:05 AM
I'll likely be out there somewhere, waving as you all go flying by me.

Mr. Beanz
05-22-08, 10:39 AM
Thanks for the heads up rooftest. I've been by the park from the trail many times, but never went into the park. I was going to check out a meeting place there this weekend on the way to visit my folks. I really like your suggestion of the FREE section of the park as I had no idea ther was a fee. Who do they think tehy are El Dorado!!! I will pick a definite rally point after the reconnoiter this Sunday.

Lewis, I took it for granted the softball fields was the meeting place. Restrooms and free parking. Like root said, the entrance is about a mile east of Imperial (first light). The pay lot is about 2 miles east of Lapalma. Why pay? The softball field lot has plenty of paved and unpaved parking.


If you check it out form the bike trail this weekend, there is small turnout into the park. East end about a mile from the bridge and past the softball fields. Veer left at the first restroom.

The pay park is about another mile and has a fancier inlet. Or you could use the first entrance and veer right at the first restroom.

I always thought there were two separate parks. :twitchy:

cjbruin
05-23-08, 01:40 PM
I'm going to show up with no helmet and no brakes.

Make sure to bring a pen so everyone can get your autograph.

Beanz...sorry, can't make this one as I'll be doing a TT that day. Hope to catch up with you sometime in the next few weeks.

Mr. Beanz
05-23-08, 05:14 PM
Cool, Cj! Good luck!.......I invited my buddy Lee. He's strong on the flats. I have hard time staying on his wheel. Hoping he put on some weight during the winter. He'll be there!:D

Tha_Help
05-26-08, 12:14 AM
I have a group that does the SART 1/2 century every weekend. We start at the burger shop/car wash between Gypsum and Wier. We start about 8 to 8:30. We have 3 regulars with 4 others who come along once in a while.
Our normal stops are at the Anaheim Crossover before The Pond/Honda Ctr. and the Beach. Makes for 45 minute legs.

Here's our speed rundown for those who want to know.
Speeds are usually average 18mph up to the Anaheim crossover. This usually carries out until the 7 mi marker. From there it goes up and down. I would say we would average about 14mph over the next 7 mi. We go up the coast for a mile on a cool down at about 8 mph low rpm. We rest for about 10 minutes, water up, gel up, and head back.
On the way back, the first 5 miles is really easy to maintain a 20-22mph pace. Usually I have to wait up for the other guys at this point. We can average 18mph all the way back to the the Anaheim crossover. From here it seems that everyone starts to drop off because of the underpasses (the under and up wears on the last leg). Also the larger hills slow the pace. I would say we average 15mph until the hills.

Overall average ranges between 17 and 19mph overall.

Here's the URL for the SART 1/2 Century: http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/SART-1-2-Century

LewisAClark
05-28-08, 01:16 AM
Rode the full length of the SART on Memorial Day. Was in very good shape compared to the SGRT. Minor sand in two places which will probably be gone by Sat. Wind was up to its old tricks.

alicestrong
05-28-08, 08:25 AM
Have a great ride but it's just not easy enough for me to get to...

I'll see some of you on the SGRT...:)

Tiffanie
05-29-08, 11:40 PM
I'm going to plan to meet up with you guys, although coming from the opposite direction. I'll be starting from Warner and head up. Will most likely start around 7:30.

Looking forward to it... haven't been on a group ride for awhile! :)

1955
05-30-08, 12:02 AM
I'm going to plan to meet up with you guys, although coming from the opposite direction. I'll be starting from Warner and head up. Will most likely start around 7:30.

Looking forward to it... haven't been on a group ride for awhile! :)

Well, now that Tiff is going, you should get a lot more people interested.:innocent: Now where is that picture...it's around here somewhere.:)

1955
05-30-08, 12:05 AM
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Hatless
1955

Wow, I'm sitting here surfing the net, watching the tube and it looks like someone snapped a picture of me.

Tiffanie
05-30-08, 12:15 AM
Well, now that Tiff is going, you should get a lot more people interested.:innocent: Now where is that picture...it's around here somewhere.:)

Hey! I thought I had set the permissions to to my pics as private! http://planetsmilies.net/angel-smiley-5100.gif





:p

1955
05-30-08, 12:21 AM
Hey! I thought I had set the permissions to to my pics as private! http://planetsmilies.net/angel-smiley-5100.gif





:p

Alright, alright...I won't post it.


But of course, everyone knows the one I'm talking about anyway.:D:D:D

Tiffanie
05-30-08, 12:35 AM
The pics that have been posted here are not private (obviously!). :p
I was attempting to be facetious, but it didn't work. ;)

1955
05-30-08, 12:37 AM
The pics that have been posted here are not private (obviously!). :p
I was attempting to be facetious, but it didn't work. ;)

Doh, I'm a little slower than normal tonight...

greggk
05-30-08, 04:53 PM
Sounds like fun - I'll be there!

Mr. Beanz
05-30-08, 05:06 PM
Sounds like fun - I'll be there!

You better be, you're pulling the train!:thumb:

Mr. Beanz
05-30-08, 05:44 PM
Well, Gina is in too!...But she will wait at the park till we return from the rough Greenriver direction section!:D

cjbruin
05-30-08, 05:52 PM
The pics that have been posted here are not private (obviously!). :p
I was attempting to be facetious, but it didn't work. ;)

I got it.

By the way Ralph...why aren't you joining us for sushi?

mtblurkr
05-30-08, 07:14 PM
Ill be there.

spinerguy
05-30-08, 09:41 PM
Is there room for one more?

axelfox
05-30-08, 09:47 PM
Have fun! I'll be on the trail after you guys.

Mr. Beanz
05-30-08, 10:43 PM
Is there room for one more?

The Moore the Mary Er!:D

LewisAClark
05-30-08, 11:09 PM
The Moore the Mary Er!:D

When Cole505 was the only that had popped smoke on this ride after almost three weeks, I thought that this ride had gone up in smoke:(. I am pleased by all the last minute additions:thumb:. I realize that it was probably simply the case of people's schedules fluctuating constantly and the fact that many are not fond of the flats like I am.

Anyway the weather is supposed to be nice, although we may have to deal with the consistent wind that is prevalent on the path. At least we'll have numbers.