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Sammyboy
05-23-08, 03:33 AM
So, I started gradually working up for my big charity/promotional ride last week. I rode an 18 mile circuit twice last week, and a 25 mile loop twice this week, as well as a couple of gym sessions. At the gym, I do a stationery bike workout doing intervals which works me harder than I would dare if at the end I was to be 20 miles from home!

Biggest observation so far is that I'm slower on these rides with the DT than I would be on one of my road bikes. The riding position is pretty good, and whilst the wind resistance is, I think, a bit higher, I don't think that's the issue. I think it comes down to two things, firstly rolling resistance. I notice that I'm dropping a gear earlier than I would on a road bike, and riding the flats and mild hills in a slightly lower ratio than I would on a roadie. I suspect the biggest culprit is the tyres, so I'm all the more keen on getting a set of either Comets or Marathons. The second is gearing; on my training rides, I never get below 5th, and 9th spins out easily on descents, and sometimes I feel I could push a higher gear on the flats (this is with the current tyres, too!). This is something I'm going to have to live with, since I want to leave the bike as standard as possible (I'm adding things like a rack and a bar bag, but the only things I plan to replace are the tyres and the saddle). I'm not overly concerned, since I figure that I'm actually not sure what the hills will be like on this ride (I know there's nothing dramatic, but there could be much harder work than on my training loops), and I figure towards the end of a 135 mile ride, I might be glad of a nice low gear.

The 25 mile ride I do takes me to the beach, and I took the opportunity this morning to look at the sea and make some fit adjustments. My mini bar-ends were angled down a little, and since I was finding I used them more than I'd thought, I angled them up. That meant that the left hand brake lever hit the bar end, so I adjusted that down a little. I also did something I should've done weeks ago; my saddle appeared to be angled up a little, and was giving my perineum a battering. I tilted it down a little, and the relief was immediate. I found I then had to raise the seat a little, but it was much better. I've got a Brooks B17 Special on the way, which I hope will be better still, the stock saddle being too narrow from my sit bones.

I feel physically ready to up the distance to 40 miles (the all-winter commuting and utility cycling have paid off), but I think I'm going to do one more week of shorter distances first, rather than ride the new Brooks on a 40 miler right away. I think I'll fit that, and then do an 18 and a 25 miler next week, then go for 40's. I think 40 is about the most I can do, since I do my training rides in the morning before I start work. Closer to the time, I'll try a weekend 75 or so.

nigelme
05-23-08, 06:21 AM
Have you the route worked out; if so could you post it up. :thumb:

Sammyboy
05-23-08, 06:43 AM
Hope this link works for you! Basically, went to viaMichelin, put in my home postcode, and Cambridge, went to options, and selected "by bike"

http://www.viamichelin.com/viamichelin/int/dyn/controller/Itineraires?options=1&strStartMerged=so15%200nw&strStartAddress=&strStartCityCountry=EUR&strDestMerged=Cambridge&strDestAddress=&strDestCityCountry=EUR

Sammyboy
05-23-08, 06:46 AM
And my Brooks has arrived! I fitted it and took it for a spin round the block - feels a lot more like the right size than the standard saddle. I just hope the B17 was the right choice rather than a 66. Anyway, here's the bike in current trim. It'll be wearing panniers on the day, plus I'll have a computer hung on it, and new tyres of some sort.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a322/Samuelw72/P5230029.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a322/Samuelw72/P5230030.jpg

Mooo
05-23-08, 07:00 AM
Sammyboy,
my experience with small tires is limited to 406, and I've put a few thousand each on Comets, Gran Prix, Kenda Kwest (2 forms).

The Comets are pretty quick, but those I've used have a very thin casing and seem to accept punctures readily. I typically get about 4-500 miles between failures. Also, at 100psi, they're a little rigid, and make some funny noises too. Not a huge amount of pneumatic benefit, I feel. Again, my experience is limited to fairly wide tires (40/406?) and when they lose air I've felt them get squirrelly. about 4000 miles spread over 3 tires.

The Conti Grand Prix were narrow and I always worried about sidewall damage so never rode them on gravel. That said, they seemed a smoother ride than the Comets but just as fast. It may be they were faster but they list for 2x the price (mine came from someone who'd intended to order 451's). About 2k miles on 2 tires, no flats.

Kenda's.... Blackwall Kwest 100psi, much slower than the others (by clock, by feel, by everything), but inexpensive and one flat on 4 tires spread over something like 9000 miles. Much commuting. Also have kind of a weird feel to them at first. The flat was a brake shoe rub through. Tire still had tread, but many glass cuts.

Kenda.. gumwall Kwest, 65psi "Dahon special." These came with the Dahon, and I've only a little over 1000 miles on these (2 tires, 1k miles each). I like them. They seem to roll pretty good, no flats yet, and at 1000 miles, very little tread wear. These are more comfy than the Comets or Grand Prix, and seem much quicker than the 100psi blackwall Kwests. Not prohibitively priced.

Don't know if this helps you at all, and I have no experience with Schwalbes so can't compare. Your ride sounds pretty cool, and I think you'll have a blast!

Sammyboy
05-23-08, 07:15 AM
I'm heavily tempted to Marathons. The bike is full suspension, so running at 100 psi should be a non-issue, and hopefully they'll be a good bit faster than the Kenda's I have now. I've got Marathons on two other bikes, and have NEVER flatted either set, although one is on a tandem, so really takes a beating.