Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Fixed/SS Project to begin

Today I found a very affordable 63cm Fuji frame destined to become a Fixed/Free w/flip-flop hub. Thanks to William Karsten I stopped by a local LBS that specializes in old stuff aka JUNK. The plan will be to chop off all the unnecessary cable guides, shifter boses, derailler bracket and such. I will then attempt to paint it without getting too ugly. I will follow this up with some nice decals which may be of a fine Italian bike. Which should it be, Gios, Colnago, De Rosa or ? Wish me luck.

John

it should be a fuji since it is one. please don't label it as another bike frame. that is so lame. what is the point of trying to fake another brand of bike? the only people you'll trick are people who don't care about bikes. why don't you just paint it and give it your own brand rather than faking another. that's like wearing clothes only because it has a name brand on it.

You have some very valid points. I haven't completely decided what I will do with it but thought it would be a neat idea.

It's kinda like throwing a Mercedes badge on an old Chevette that you fix up.

no decals.....keep it simple

oh decals work just not bike company stickers.

Dorf

Was that shop pedal pushers? If not what shop was it
Does he have any other big frames?
I planed on going there tomorrow

Put whatever stickers you want on the thing. I'd always wanted to put Colnago stickers on a Huffy myself.

I want to put Huffy stickers on a Serotta

Hasn't than already been done [the Huffy stickers]?

I once saw a fixie covered in Lone Star beer stickers. Now that was classy

Yeah, paint your name on the top tube or something. That would be neat.

Light it on fire and clearcoat the scorch marks for a "Real" flamed look...wait, maybe I'll do that to the Fuji frame I'm making fixed.

PJ :-)

Dorf

Was that shop pedal pushers? If not what shop was it
Does he have any other big frames?
I planed on going there tomorrow

Yes it was, he has a really nice De Rosa that was recently powder coated blue but done a bit tacky. It was likely a 64cm and partialy built, they wanted around $150. I think there were a couple other frames around 62cm or a little smaller.

It's kinda like throwing a Mercedes badge on an old Chevette that you fix up.

Come on have a little fun, can't we all dream for once. I have another idea where I may make it showing Navy pride. This would be a deep blue w/gold lettering.

it should be a fuji since it is one. please don't label it as another bike frame. that is so lame. what is the point of trying to fake another brand of bike? the only people you'll trick are people who don't care about bikes. why don't you just paint it and give it your own brand rather than faking another. that's like wearing clothes only because it has a name brand on it.


I fully agree

i agree as well i think fake decals are the true mark of a ****** bag.

How elitist of you.
I think it is pretty pathetic when someone takes a great hardcore symbol, removes the X and replaces it with a cog.
Evolution:
YoT, NY
Leapfrog Zine, IN
Now here.
Very unoriginal. Let me ask you a question: do you own a messenger bag?

Just out of curiosity...are you referring to Youth of Today? Gosh...I haven't heard them in awhile

Just out of curiosity...are you referring to Youth of Today? Gosh...I haven't heard them in awhile
the one and only

You guys take stickers way too f**kin' seriously.
:rolleyes:

Put whatever stickers you want on the thing, if only to spite all the tight ass posers around here.

and comments. jesus man i was kidding. way to **** your pants over nothing. i gave scott spits that image to use in leapfrog. calm down a little man. what does a messenger bag have to do with anything?

Hey, I'm just kidding, too.

Well, sort of. Anyone that worried over other people's stickers is pretty close to poser status (and preserving the integrity of such status). :p

way to **** your pants over nothing.

Batteries!!!

what does a messenger bag have to do with anything?
It has to do with what was said to Dorf411 about putting non-MFR based decals/stickers on a frame; by you, by whoever. Same thing applies to a messenger bag: by its title, only messengers should use them. I know there are NO crews in Co SPRNGS (Denver is the closest). Hence, you having a messenger bag is just as wrong as Dorf411 wanting to put Masi/Ciocc/Pogliaghi decals on a ****ing Sears frame; this is based on your original comments in this thread. (note: I don't care either way, just making a point). A bit hypocritical.
Don't crap where you eat.
And yes, I am stirring the pot a bit.

Batteries!!!
I am riding to Target to get some D2's right ****ing now!
woo hoo - battery fight!

Same thing applies to a messenger bag: by its title, only messengers should use them.

so by that logic is it also wrong for "messengers" to be riding "track" bikes? aren't those just for the track? aren't "mountain" bikes just for the mountains?

i think which bike or bag you use is more of an argument of function, whereas the italian badged japanese frame is an argument of form. or is that your point? eveyone is that koolaid thread is talking about not being a messenger and using a messenger bag for cycling and yet your shoulder remains chipless.

how is being a poser saying someone shouldn't make a fake colnago? such an idea does have a funny and kitsch value, but couldn't it also be considered being a poser? eitherway, dorf411 invited suggestion to this idea to begin with. yes, it could be funny or whatever to make a fake colnago, but my suggestion was to leave it clean, or stock, or make up his own brand. just an alternative. so is it being a poser or an eliteist to have a different opinion than the general consensus?

i'm going to save my batteries for idiots in cars, rather than fellow cyclists. i'm also going to go ride my "fixed" gear now, even though i can still reproduce. i'm even going to bring an extra jacket and water in my "messenger" bag even though i'm a machinist.

oh, and i am an eliteist. just look at my fork:

i'm going to save my batteries for idiots in cars, rather than fellow cyclists.

Boring....Throw batteries!!! Elitists throw NiCD or Lithium batteries.

hahaha....

i want to make one that says:
l33tsp33d.

All right front rangers, I am just playing devil's advocate. I find it very humorous when people call out one another and then when someone calls them out, etc...so on and so on.
Ride in a sundress on a bike you welded yourself and put Merckx stickers on your ass. Carry your TeaCup poodle in your messenger bag. I do not care at all.
As I said before, DO NOT CRAP WHERE YOU EAT.
I think you missed the point as to what I was saying.

You guys take stickers way too f**kin' seriously.
:rolleyes:

Put whatever stickers you want on the thing, if only to spite all the tight ass posers around here.

Seconded.

i'm not calling anyone out. perhaps i did miss your point. perhaps that point was not successfully expressed either. maybe your cryptic, sum it all up statements didn't have the signifigance you hoped for. i have no care either way what someone does with their bike either. however, if someone asks for suggestions, and i have one, then i will express it. everyone got all cranky when a few of us thought a misbadged bike was not the best idea. so no one can disagree without everybody becoming accusatory? that was my point for my last post. again, i'm not calling anyone out. if you want to be confrontational and unaccountable for your internet tough guy comments, that is your own business. however, i just don't see the point of being the devil's advocate or trying to "stir up the pot". just so we can draw lines in the sand?

i'm not calling anyone out. perhaps i did miss your point. perhaps that point was not successfully expressed either. maybe your cryptic, sum it all up statements didn't have the signifigance you hoped for. i have no care either way what someone does with their bike either. however, if someone asks for suggestions, and i have one, then i will express it. everyone got all cranky when a few of us thought a misbadged bike was not the best idea. so no one can disagree without everybody becoming accusatory? that was my point for my last post. again, i'm not calling anyone out. if you want to be confrontational and unaccountable for your internet tough guy comments, that is your own business. however, i just don't see the point of being the devil's advocate or trying to "stir up the pot". just so we can draw lines in the sand?
:lol:
that's me alright...and all my binary might. This has gone away from where it should be. You are correct: enough is enough. But how can you equate "not the best idea" to "******bag?" We can leave it here if you wish, but that just really baffles me.
The best thing about the internet is you get to express your opinions freely. The worst thing about the internet is you get to express your opinions freely.

******bag was xcutterx's word, not mine.

165-48:17 rU13z m3.

I personally find it sad that fixed gear culture is being invaded by hardcore str8edge sXe emo posers who have mommy and daddy buy them $4k bikes and $300 bags so they can look like l33t messengers from the trenches. You're only fooling yourselves.

165-48:17 rU13z m3.

I personally find it sad that fixed gear culture is being invaded by hardcore str8edge sXe emo posers who have mommy and daddy buy them $4k bikes and $300 bags so they can look like l33t messengers from the trenches. You're only fooling yourselves.

:rolleyes:

complaining that someone you don't like is invading the culture that you invaded only 8 months ago is a little silly, isn't it? not that i've been riding fixed for any longer... it just seems a little elitist to me.

Just panit it a colour you like and who cares what other people think about the colour or brand. As long as its not rude who cares!

165-48:17 rU13z m3.

I personally find it sad that fixed gear culture is being invaded by hardcore str8edge sXe emo posers who have mommy and daddy buy them $4k bikes and $300 bags so they can look like l33t messengers from the trenches. You're only fooling yourselves.

i personally find it sad that you are resorting to assumptions, prejudice, and finger pointing to make yourself feel better about your self insecurities with your subscribed notion of where you fit in because of what bike you ride. what is fixed gear culture? isn't it people who ride fixed gears? so is there some sort of mold we should all be adhering to? please let me know so i can fit in. so is it "you're with us or against us"? are you gw? i would hate to imagine some sort of diversity in any group or culture. you should get some crosses and come out to colorado and burn them in my yard. that'd teach me good. i find it so hilarious that you are complaining about a group of people trying to "invade" your culture, yet call them posers because they don't fit in how you think they should. i would also love to see this conversation take place in a room. would you and 165-48:17 still be making your brazen, passive aggressive, sum it all up witicisms if you were interacting with actual people? i sure hope not.

alexs, I choose to believe that I didn't invade anything. I'm not as passionate about fixed and bikes in general as other people are, thus don't really consider myself as part of the "culture." And there is a culture, at least one that I can observe. My definition of culture being something that binds people together in an honest, truthful way. My definition of poser being a person who wants the social image and other things that come with the culture, but is not interested in participating in the fundamental activities. I.e. they would never ride for the joy of riding. They would ride if it made them look uber-cool at the bar down the street.

isotopesope, you confuse me. You're the one who made a big deal about this guy putting some stickers on his bike. Now you're contradicting yourself. Get a personality or something.

i think it's safe to say that anyone who rides a fixed gear bike and has been for longer than say, two weeks, does so because they love riding bikes.

at any rate, isn't it nice how we're all showing dorf what a cohesive, supportive, un-judgemental community we all are?

i think so.

i'm not really sure i'm understanding what shrimpx is saying...is it that every kid who wears cuffed dickes and a messenger bag and rides a track bike who isn't a messenger is someone who has a ****ton of money and/or has mommy and daddy pay for everything? because i fit that description up until the point where having a lot of money comes into the picture.

if you're saying that "fixed gear culture" is messenger culture, then if you're not a messenger then you might as well **** off too. if that's not what you're saying, then i have no idea what your conception of "fixed gear culture" is. is it commuters? is it messengers? is there a membership card? are there club dues and meetings? i must've missed the memo or something, so i guess i'm not a part of it.

people ride bikes because they enjoy riding bikes...at least that's why i ride bikes. i started riding fixed because i was one of those indie/emo kids who'd heard about it and i decided to try it out. i learned a lot about it from kids "in the know," and i had my best friend help me out with parts. lo and behold, 3 years later, i have 5 working bikes (that i paid for out of my own pocket, by working and getting discounts, and scrounging for parts from friends, thanks) and i'm still riding fixed. in fact, i pretty much only ride fixed. i don't do it because it's "cool." i do it because i'm most comfortable on my fixed gear bikes. i don't ride my $900 road bike around town because it's a $900 road bike and it just doesn't make sense to ride it 3 blocks to go to the store.

i try to avoid the folks who get all elitist about what bike they ride and who they ride with. this is why i don't race, and i don't do "club rides." i ride for myself, i always have, and i always will. because hey, if you're not riding for yourself then what the hell are you doing anyway?

would you and 165-48:17 still be making your brazen, passive aggressive, sum it all up witicisms if you were interacting with actual people? i sure hope not.
Wow, you win with this one. Let it go Iso...

I heard that messers in NYC are starting to ride unicycles (fixed gear, natch) and are wearing only Jams and Members Only jackets.

if you wanna keep it real, you gotta go gay. That's right, all messengers are homosexual. This evolved because they will only have sex with other messengers and there's not enough females...

I want one of those l33tsp33d stickers!!!

I love the eighties! I can be seen regularly rocking my beige members only jacket with my feathered mullet and my boom box on my shoulder playing "Eighties" by the Killing Joke. Of course my shirt never gets buttoned up more than half way because I like my chestly man hair to be on display for the ladies. I can be seen regulary striking poses on various Cincinnati street corners while doing a no handed track stand. Send me $5 dollars and you'll get a signed PR photo from when I was trying out for the never produced remake of Magnum P.I.

isotopesope, you confuse me. You're the one who made a big deal about this guy putting some stickers on his bike. Now you're contradicting yourself. Get a personality or something

i am pretty sure i am the one who said a ****** bag would put fake badges on a bike not isotopesope. he just said he thought it was a bad idea.

I love the eighties! I can be seen regularly rocking my beige members only jacket with my feathered mullet and my boom box on my shoulder playing "Eighties" by the Killing Joke. Of course my shirt never gets buttoned up more than half way because I like my chestly man hair to be on display for the ladies. I can be seen regulary striking poses on various Cincinnati street corners while doing a no handed track stand. Send me $5 dollars and you'll get a signed PR photo from when I was trying out for the never produced remake of Magnum P.I.

holy crap! i want that photo!

holy crap! i want that photo!

Here it is (My apologies to MKRG):

i didn't make a big deal about it. i said i thought it was lame and he should make his own brand or leave it clean or stock. other people agreed with me or also suggested the bike remain clean or non-bike company logoed, then schecky and 165:48:17 whipped out the poser stick and starting pointing the eliteist finger. i was expressing my opinion, others agreed, and we were labeled tight ass posers for it. i remained silent until 165-48:17 really started in on the personal attacks to xcutterx. when i responded i was trying to convey the idea that everyone has a different opinion and there's no reason to be a jerk and get accusatory and start personally attacking someone for disagreeing or just to start drama or stir up the pot. sure, xcutterx shouldn't have used the word ******bag, but that was not my word, yet i was being lumped into the attacks because we are friends. when i responded with this idea, again everyone starts in with the poser crap. i felt i was trying to articulate several points, but the retorts to these were simply more personal attacks. i don't care what anyone thinks about me or my bike or whatever, but i've become so frustrated at the reasons behind everyones negative comments. the bottom line as to why i have been adamently trying to make a point is that it seems several people have responded in ways in this thread that are indicative of some monolithic fixed gear ideals that we should be subscribing to. i am trying to say there are multiple ways to look at it and by disagreeing or suggesting an alternative doen't mean you're a poser or what the crap ever. it seems as though everyone is trying to take sides, when we should just say what we think about the decal idea and leave the poser garbage elsewhere. shrimpx, how am i contradicting myself? you're the one complaining about certain people invading fixie culture, what ever the crap that is, yet then saying you have no part in it after alexs calls you out on it... 165-48:17, i'm not trying to win anything, but would hope you would actually read what i am saying instead of just downplaying it... i am trying to reach some sort of understanding, not prove myself.

Okay-
If you want to further discuss this, I am completely open as there seems to be a needed resolution. I ma completely open to this via PM-ing. Otherwise, I have nothing more to say on this. And I think that is fair.

I was actually making a side comment about posers. If you feel that you fit the definition and are offended, then I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend you. I described fixed culture as the social "entity" built around "riding fixed for the pure love of riding fixed." If you ride fixed as a social crutch (trying to look cool and fit in) then you're a poser. If you disagree with that, rock on. I don't care. EOT.

AH, the joy of the 'no true Scotsman.' Haven't heard that one since the fallacy section of frosh philosophy.

We are all here because we enjoy riding (and obviously writing) about fixed gear bikes.

All poseur arguments aside, I think we can agree that gluing the Nike Swoosh on your Pumas is a little dorky whether you're talking about bikes, shoes or the shirts with the thing that looks kind of like the Polo guy on them.

And so the hell what. I'd bet everyone on the board had at least one of those fake Polo shirts before they became the hard-assed urban riders we (ahem) all are.

It's all about the fun baby! If it is also about smacking consumer crazy $10k bike buyers in the face with simplicity, then maybe the GIOS sticker is the way to go. Either way, follow your bliss man.

More pedal - less politic