General Cycling Discussion - I bought some of those fake oakleys

14.95 for some sunglasses is pretty hard to beat. They are perfect for riding and if i wreck and they break i wont be out of 200 bucks! I have a real pair of oakleys for driving but no way would i go ride with them!...Yall should check them out www.oakleys-fake.com (http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-42246) if yall are in need of some sunglasses

14.95 for some sunglasses is pretty hard to beat. They are perfect for riding and if i wreck and they break i wont be out of 200 bucks! I have a real pair of oakleys for driving but no way would i go ride with them!...Yall should check them out www.oakleys-fake.com if yall are in need of some sunglasses


That is really sweet, it sucks to be oakley I guess?

Wow, I'm surprised oakley hasn't hit these guys for trademark infringement. I figure they're probably cool except that site said they write oakley on the glasses and use the logo.

I feel you on the price. I got my riding glasses from JcPenny's. About $15 and they're just as stylish (IMHO) as the $150 e-wires.

I'm another member of the "cheap sunglasses" club -- I'm bad about losing or breaking 'em so I don't spend much money on a pair. For instance, on this year's MS-150 I accidentally left my shades behind at the overnight stop -- no problem since they were cheapies, and $8 at a gas station along the way solved the problem. If those had been $150+ shades I left behind it sure would have put a damper on the rest of my ride.

14.95 for some sunglasses is pretty hard to beat. They are perfect for riding and if i wreck and they break i wont be out of 200 bucks! I have a real pair of oakleys for driving but no way would i go ride with them!...Yall should check them out www.oakleys-fake.com if yall are in need of some sunglasses



Sweet!

Just bought myself a load of cycling glasses cheap from tasco, but these are more stylish...

those are nice sunglasses. I have bought oakley fakes before, they tend to break easily... I got it for $12.

Now, I use spyder sunglasses.. They are not cycling specific, according to the manual its for skiing enthusiasts.. You can get a pair(the lower end models) for less than $30.
So much cheaper than oakley but the lenses and frame are jusr as good.

I'm usually not in favour of knock-off stuff but considering Oakley's pricing I like these.

I haven't bought a pair of Oakleys since I worked in a bike shop. Far too much money for something I'll drop or sit on. My current M-frames are 10 years old and held together by a (non-visible) bead of silicone (I stepped on them :D )

they (fake oakleys) are crap, they dont block the same sun, they fall apart, and they look as fake as those burberry bags on lexington ave, nyc.

I'm all for the fakes. I'm always losing my dang glasses, and it's a big investment to pay for glasses that probably cost about one third of what they charge to make them and have huge profits. :(

Koffee

they (fake oakleys) are crap, they dont block the same sun, they fall apart, and they look as fake as those burberry bags on lexington ave, nyc.



In other words, to most eyes they'll look just fine....

Haven't checked these particular fakes in detail, but the glasses I got from tasco for about $5 each block exactly the same amount and type of sun of similar tint $150 designer shades.

You ain't necessarily getting any better sunblocking features when you pay 10 times more!

Admit it, you're a fashion snob. :D

they (fake oakleys) are crap, they dont block the same sun, they fall apart, and they look as fake as those burberry bags on lexington ave, nyc.


well I have one of those bags and it looks pretty damn real.

HOWEVER, I would think the issue would be safety. Oakley lenses are damn near indestructible. I wouldn't want a cheap piece of glass/plastic near my eye to break while I was riding.

The general rule of thumb is that the more expensive the glasses, the easier they are to lose. I've actually had people say "Sir, you left your sunglasses" after they saw that they only cost $10 :D If they were Oakleys? No chance!

I notice the fake Oakley's don't say anything about blocking UV light. If they don't, the $125 you save will cost you thousands some day. Since your eyes will dilate, you'll be exposing your eyes to significantly more UV light than w/o glasses. Enjoy your cataracts. Can anyone verify that these block 99-100% UVA & UVB?

Please stop getting the fake oakleys!!! I'm not saying this out of some sort of snobbish thing, and I don't want to sound angry or anything. I am concerned that the fake glasses are really damaging your eyes. When you wear the generics, they dialate your eyes, and don't block out the UV rays properly. This just opens up your eyes for more damage! Your eyes are precious, and I'd suggest spending at least $40 on a good pair of glasses to make sure that you are getting the best protection if you are spending that much time in the sun. Everyone I talk to says that the generics are dangerous, and just damage your eyes. This is just what I've heard in college, and thought that you guys should be warned.

Hmmm... I dunno if mine do anything about blocking UVA/B; at $8 a pop I kinda doubt it. Dangit, now you done went and said something that will probably make me spend more on sunglasses. :)

The fake Oakleys have UV protection too. Its not like UV protection is some expensive process reserved only for <$100 sunglasses.

I don't own a pair of "fakes", but I have some "reals". I am going to try the "fakes" to see how much of a quality difference there is.

I wasn't trying to stir anything up, just wanted to point out some long term consequences of the fakes. I was just wondering how you know if the UV protection is working or how it compares between two pairs of glasses. I know that the cheap stuff isn't polarized, which could really help while biking.

Please stop getting the fake oakleys!!! I'm not saying this out of some sort of snobbish thing, and I don't want to sound angry or anything. I am concerned that the fake glasses are really damaging your eyes. When you wear the generics, they dialate your eyes, and don't block out the UV rays properly. This just opens up your eyes for more damage! Your eyes are precious, and I'd suggest spending at least $40 on a good pair of glasses to make sure that you are getting the best protection if you are spending that much time in the sun. Everyone I talk to says that the generics are dangerous, and just damage your eyes. This is just what I've heard in college, and thought that you guys should be warned.


Dunno about the oakleys, but the 6 or so sets of cheap safety glasses for cycling I got from tasco are all as UV protected as $150 glasses, for $5 a pop. Haven't lost any of em yet, unlike expensive glasses...which I either lose or sit on.

Two of the pairs, I spent a little more on and bought them polarized.

Feltup,
How do you know? They don't mention it anywhere on the site. Unless you have a pair that are "certified" (I use this word loosely), they likely are not. Not saying you *can't* protect from UV light for a cheap price, but if they're not labelled as such, they probably aren't...

Feltup,
How do you know? They don't mention it anywhere on the site. Unless you have a pair that are "certified" (I use this word loosely), they likely are not. Not saying you *can't* protect from UV light for a cheap price, but if they're not labelled as such, they probably aren't...

"Replica Five 2.0
Fives 2.0 best fit a small to medium face. Five 2.0 frames are plastic. The lenses provide 100% UV protection. Every pair includes a free storage/cleaning bag. Colored frames come with the name printed on the nose piece and a raised O shape on both arms."

I contacted them and they said the same is true of ALL the sunglasses they sell.

Then go for it! :D Let me know if they're any good! :)

wow i didnt know my post was gunna cause such an uproar...i should get pair pretty soon and ill let yall know how they are

wow i didnt know my post was gunna cause such an uproar...i should get pair pretty soon and ill let yall know how they are


Check out some of these if you've time...excellent for cycling.

Some will "take a bullet". Not sure my face would, but there you go....

http://www.tasco-safety.com/index.html

I got the sunglasses and they are pretty much DEAD on replica's..They look real good. I ordered them monday and i got them today (thursday) so they came quick. I defintly recommend them. They even came with a oakley cleaning/storage bag.

that is so damn cheesy, cheap sunglasses are one thing but buying into something that violates copyright laws is down right illegal. Why would you want to own something that is fake.

that is so damn cheesy, cheap sunglasses are one thing but buying into something that violates copyright laws is down right illegal. Why would you want to own something that is fake.

Then don't buy 'em.

No what is cheesy is Oakley marking their product up to make a 500% profit.

Sorry, not all of us afford 150 bucks for a pair of sunglasses like you. I like the way these look. and there are obvious differences from real ones (which i own) and these ones. Seems they are made from the same material and what material is that? plastic!!

that is so damn cheesy, cheap sunglasses are one thing but buying into something that violates copyright laws is down right illegal. Why would you want to own something that is fake.


while I don't agree with your tone, you are correct. Napster was illegal too - people knew it and continue to use services like kazaa and others. It doesn't make it right.

what tone. it wasnt in all caps are anything.

Napster is not the same. Napster was actually allowing the download of "actual" items. These are not real Oakleys being given away free contrary to the wishes of the manufacturer. Copies are quite legal in the US. Until such time as Oakley sues and wins a case banning these sunglasses, nothing illegal has occured. Oakley has to prove copyright infringement. Again, these are not *real* Oakleys, so the Napster analogy doesn't apply. It's just like buying a fake Rolex for $20.

Additionally, the fact that they claim these are "replicas" may make it VERY hard for Oakley to win a suit. If I remember correctly (and I may not) making a replica is 100% legal, as long as you're not trying to pass it off as the real thing. What I can't remember is if you need permission from the original manufacturer.

As I think about it even more, I don't even think is a matter of copyright infringement. I think it's more of a trademark deal. Copyright applies to intellectual property (i.e. something that can be recorded), right? Oakley's glasses do fall into this area.

I just got a pair to see how they are. Heck, I needed a cheap pair of sunglasses anyway. If they are anywhere NEAR (as in ballpark) the quality of Oakleys, I'll be quite pleased.

@CarlJStoneham

"Copies are quite legal in the US" Not when the actual product is covered under trademark law.

The logo and design of the glasses is covered by trademark. Anybody who copies Oakley glasses AND uses the same logo is doomed.


Quoting from Oakley -
"0.42S, 2x4, 3 D Shank, A Frame, Airbrake, Arrowhead, A Wire, Ballistic, Bob, Bobbie, Bottlecap, Bullet, Chain Saw, Chop Saw, Crater, Crank, C Wire, D1, Deflection Device, Downfill, E Frame, E Wire, E.V.A., Excess Vapor Abatement, E Wire, Ellipse Design, Eye Jacket, Fangs, Flesh, Flesh Net, Fives, Five (roman numeral design), Frogskins, Full Metal Jacket, G26, G30, Hammerfang, HDO, Heater, High Definition Optics, Hybrid, Icon, Inertial Generator, Inventions Wrapped in Art, Iridium, Jacket, Jake, Jagged Skull Design, Juliet, Leather Jacket, L Frame, Mag, Magnesium, Mars, , Medusa, M Frame, Microclear, Minute, Moon, Nail, Oakley Four, Overdrive, Overthetop, Oakley stretch logo, Oakley icon combined or alone, OO, OO A, OO E, O Engine, O Frame, O Matter, O Pack, O Positive, O Shoe, Packtwo, Pit Boot, Pit Shoe, Penny, Plutonite, Polaric Ellipsoid, Positive Red, Pro Frame, Pro M Frame, Racing Jacket, Romeo, Scar, Scope Meister, Shoetwo, Shoethree, Slash, Smoke, Soft Vault, Square Wire, Static Icon, Straight Jacket, Strike, Sub Zeros, Sweep, Teeth, Ten, Ten (roman numeral design), Time Bomb, T Wire, Topcoat, Trenchcoat, XX (roman numeral design), Unobtainium, The Vault, Virgin Serililum, VR28, VR50, Water Jacket, Why3, Wire, Wires, World Movement, W Square, W Wire, X Ellipse Design, X Metal, XX, XYZ Optics, Zeros, 0 (Zero 0) alone. Oakley, the Ellipse Design and the Jagged Ellipse Design are all Trademarks of Oakley, Inc., 1 Icon, Foothill Ranch, CA 92610, U.S.A., Earth. O Store, Scope Meister and Scope Tour are servicemarks of Oakley, Inc. Other U.S. and Foreign Trademarks (including Taiwan) applied for. Oakley Technology and Trademarks are ferociously protected by our really tenacious lawyers."

PS here are some others
http://www.unlimitedreplicas.com/oakley.htm

@CarlJStoneham
The logo and design of the glasses is covered by trademark. Anybody who copies Oakley glasses AND uses the same logo is doomed.


Quoting from Oakley -
"0.42S, 2x4 [...] and Scope Tour are servicemarks of Oakley"


Wonder why they use the term servicemark here instead of trademark?

"A trademark is a word, name, symbol or device which is used in trade with goods to indicate the source of the goods and to distinguish them from the goods of others. A servicemark is the same as a trademark except that it identifies and distinguishes the source of a service rather than a product. Trademark rights may be used to prevent others from using a confusingly similar mark."


So it would suggest that copies are allowed as long as its made clear they're copies?

those glasses that that link above to goes to has the ones that are illegal, hell they have the oakley logo on them.

Wow, this has become a really heated debate!

I run an eCommerce site, SunClone.com (http://www.sunclone.com), selling replica Oakley sunglasses - maybe I can clear some of this up. :)

Quality of the frames and lenses, in regard to sunlight protection and general durability, is a major concern with replica sunglasses. As with any type of product, there is a difference in quality between manufacturers - and it's no different here. I've seen some horrible replicas, made out of cheap plastic, plain lenses, and painted on decals. They are easily pointed out as fakes, break quickly, and have no protection against the sun.

Five or six years ago this was the standard, just a couple manufacturers putting out low quality sunglasses. Over time new producers stepped in. This increasing competition lowered prices and, most importantly, increased the quality and safety.

Most people don't have the money or justification to spend $100-$200 on a pair of sunglasses they're likely to break, lose, or just get tired of. The majority of sunglasses being worn out there are the $15-$20 variety found in drugstores, mall kiosks, and clothing stores.

Most replica Oakleys are of the same quality as your standard $15-$20 sunglass, but with the style and branding of a better looking, designer pair. They are full UV protected, the lenses don't distort, and the frames are very durable.

If you want the absolute best protection, top quality, and pride of having the real thing - go for it. But for roughly 1/10th of the cost, you can get a quality replica that is almost impossible to tell from the real thing - and still has full UV protection and a durable frame.

You can buy a single pair of real Oakleys, or 10 replicas. That's 9 extras to drop on the ground, forget at the beach, sit on, or drop while cycling. And with replicas your not limited to a single style - you can have a pair for driving, a pair for shopping, some to go with a business suit, ones for cycling, and another set to go with that red shirt. :)

If you're interested, have a look at my site: http://www.sunclone.com. I try not to self-promote, but this time it's relevant to the topic and I'll even knock off 10% if you mention BikeForums.net in the comments of your order. :eek:

This is a great discussion... let's keep things going!

Mike

I would be curious to see if the lenses are interchangeable between the two.

Lenses should be interchangeable between authentic Oakleys and replicas, although there may be slight differences. I've never tried it!

Mike

Posted by velocipedio here (http://bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=13937&highlight=fake+oakley):


One of the guys I ride with wears fake Oakley M-frames with real Oakley lenses. Seems happy...

Mike

If you ever were, are currently, or ever plan to be affiliated with or working for Oakley, you cannot enter this website or by any means access these files or information.

LOL......Mike....what's the pupose of the above stament on your website? Would that protect you if Oakley decided to prosecute? Kinda like asking the undercover cop posing as a hooker if she is a cop.....that doesn't work, allegedly!

like meltable is going to say anything bad selling them, and the Kia dealer is going to tell you the cars they sell are Korean pieces of ****. ok..

like meltable is going to say anything bad selling them, and the Kia dealer is going to tell you the cars they sell are Korean pieces of ****. ok..



Someone needs a hug... :rolleyes:

I dunno all i know is that these are pretty good quailty for a pair of $15 glasses and i can see great through them..i recommend them

For all of you who are comfortable in screwing Oakley over, let me provide you with an excerpt from Lance Armstrong first book;

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<in the midst of his cancer ordeal>

"I began to get good news. None of my sponsors were bailing out on me. Bill (Stapleton) and I braced for the calles to start coming in, but they never did. As the days went on, all we heard from Nike, Giro, Oakley, and Milton-Bradley were words of support.
...
They would not only stay with me, something even more remarkable happened. Bill was desperate over the matter of my health coverage. He had looked for some way I could claim coverage, but it seemed hopeless.

Bill picked up the phone and called Mike Parnell, CEO of Oakley. He explained what had happened. Hesitantly, Bill asked Mike if they could help me.

Mike said he would arrange for me to be covered.

Suddenly I had reason for optimism. But then the health care provider balked; I had a preexisting condition and therefore they were not obliged to cover my cancer treatments.

Mike Parnell picked up the phone and called the provider. He informed them that if they did not cover my medical treatments, his entire firm would take its business elsewhere.

'Cover him,' he said.

The provider still balked.

'I don't think you understand what I just said,' Mike said.

They covered me.

I'll spend the rest of my life trying to adequately convey what it meant to me, and I'll be an Oakley, Nike, and Giro athlete as long as I live. They paid my contracts in full, every single one -- even though each of them had the right to terminate the deal -- and none of them ever so much as asked me about when I would ride a bike again."

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-mark

Hi,
I would like to steer the discussion back onto safety. What has been overlooked is impact resistance. Such events are rare, but they have happened to me. I have been wearing glasses since I was five. They saved me. There are other good materials, but polycarbonate lenses are a safe bet. Polycarbonate aka Lexan is really tough. I encourage everyone to use well made sunglasses. Btw, just because they say they absorb UV doesn't mean they do it very well.

Btw, just because they say they absorb UV doesn't mean they do it very well.

Exactly. Realize that the fakes are made overseas and it's not like there is some agency checking out their claims.

What you are really paying for with Oakley's is the quality of the lense. Anybody who claims you can get a truly optically correct set of sunglasses for $5 is lying. I happen to be pretty sensitive to optical distortion in lenses and used to only wear Oakley's for that reason. Recently I've been wearing Smith sliders and after losing them bought a pair of $40 Performance shades for awhile. When I went to replace them and put on a pair of Oakley's again it was like a breath of fresh air. I really notice the clarity of the lenses and feel that I get less tired on long rides with them.

Sure, not everybody can afford Oakley's but I highly recommend buying shades from a reputable manufacturer that has reason to tell the truth about UV protection and impact resistance. You only get one set of eyes and the better you take care of them, the better they'll take care of you.

-s

For all of you who are comfortable in screwing Oakley over

Considering they've been screwing us over with $100-$200 sunglasses, I wouldn't hesitate to turn the screw the other way for once. :D

BTW, the Oakley CEO story would have come off a bit better if he had given health care coverage to someone other than a top athlete which he may eventually have a vested interest. Face it, that decision was made for fiscal reasons - not via any measure of compassion. :rolleyes:

Bac,
I have trouble believing you just said that.