Foo - Thinking of moving to Canada .. what are the pros? cons?

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red house
05-29-08, 12:43 AM
Threatening to Move to Canada (http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/2008/02/24/75-threatening-to-move-to-canada)
Often times, white people get frustrated with the state of their country. They do not like the President, or Congress, or the health care system, or the illegal status of Marijuana. Whenever they are presented with a situation that seems unreasonable to them, their first instinct is to threaten to move to Canada.
For example, if you are watching TV with white people and there is a piece on the news about that they do not agree with, they are likely to declare “ok, that’s it, I’m moving to Canada.”
Though they will never actually move to Canada, the act of declaring that they are willing to undertake the journey is very symbolic in white culture. It shows that their dedication to their lifestyle and beliefs are so strong, that they would consider packing up their entire lives and moving to a country that is only slightly different to the one they live in now.
Within white culture, it is agreed upon that if Canada had better weather it would be a perfect place.
Being aware that this information can be used quite easily to gain the trust of white people. Whenever they say, “I’m moving to Canada,” you must immediately respond with “I have relatives in Canada.”
They will then expect you to tell them about how Canada has a perfect healthcare system, legalized everything, and no crime. Though not true, it will reassure them that they are making the right choice by saying they want to move there.
But be warned, they will reference you in future conversations and possibly call on you to settle disputes about Canadian tax rates. So use this advice only if you plan to do some basic research.
*Note: Canadian white people threaten to move to Europe.
**Note: Europeans are unable to threaten to move anywhere.
deraltekluge
05-29-08, 12:53 AM
A "con" is convincing Canada to take you.
Sixty Fiver
05-29-08, 01:00 AM
Canada is a nice place and I won't be moving to Europe any time soon.
evrknotfailsafe
05-29-08, 01:05 AM
europeans move to america if they are eastern europeans. Usually as male order brides. Or my romainian roomate... he's a physicist.
red house
05-29-08, 01:07 AM
Or my romainian roomate... he's a physicist.
but he can't work a microwave.
fail.
evrknotfailsafe
05-29-08, 01:07 AM
shoot, I've had to teach him how to make tea.
evrknotfailsafe
05-29-08, 01:08 AM
more than once.
granted, he had to use the microwave as the stove is off limits...
Contrary to popular belief, Canada is all but slammed the doors on people immigrating there from the US. They used to have a "points" system on what was needed before they would take someone, but I think that's gone, as they have more than enough people due to the US's collapsing economy and global hatred for Americans in general.
if you have raw skills, i.e. things you would normally learn in college, then you're more likely to get accepted in Canada. Something we're apparently short of.
If I felt sick of Toronto, Ontario, I'd go to BC. Better weather, cleaner air, easier to buy stuff, functional transit.
OldRoadGuy
05-29-08, 02:25 AM
Con - Celine Dion
Too cold
Pro - Eh
Socialized medicine
coasting
05-29-08, 04:30 AM
Good grief...so this is more widespread than I thought. I've met 2 americans here who claimed to be canadians when I first met them but I called them out pretty quickly. I raised this issue over a pint and 2 english people admitted to claiming to be Irish when abroad. I prefer to advertise my nationality by starting fights and falling drunk into the gutter.
I know friends of mine who always go through from Austin to a Canadian international airport before going overseas. There is so much hatred for Americans in most countries these days that any chance of playing off as a Canadian may end up prolonging people's life spans.
Johnny_Monkey
05-29-08, 04:59 AM
I know friends of mine who always go through from Austin to a Canadian international airport before going overseas. There is so much hatred for Americans in most countries these days that any chance of playing off as a Canadian may end up prolonging people's life spans.
I once advised an American woman who was moving to London to pretend to be a Canadian if anyone asked. She was going to work in the US Embassy as well. :lol:
Usetacould
05-29-08, 06:09 AM
Pro: hockey, beer, Tim Horton's
Con: government run healthcare, unreformed hippies, cold, technically not it's own country, you have to learn the quebec version of french but they don't have to learn english, not the US
Johnny_Monkey
05-29-08, 06:51 AM
Pro: hockey, beer, Tim Horton's
Con: government run healthcare, unreformed hippies, cold, technically not it's own country, you have to learn the quebec version of french but they don't have to learn english, not the US
Not the US should be a pro.
Main drawback for me is the weather, but one of my colleagues who loves winter sports sees the weather as a pro.
CyLowe97
05-29-08, 07:01 AM
Con - Celine Dion
That's a big Con right there, especially factoring in Shania Twain and Crash Test Dummies, but....
Pro: Neil Young, Cowboy Junkies, Sarah McLachlan.
Neil Young alone should cancel out all the atrocities committed by Celine Dions and Alanis Morisettes.
Have fun in Yellowknife before heading to the diamond fields, red house!
Usetacould
05-29-08, 07:23 AM
Not the US should be a pro.
This is entirely an opinion, so I state mine that it is a con. I've been to many different countries and I have yet to visit one that functioned better than the US on even its worst days. If you want the US to be like Europe or Canada, then you are missing the point of what the US is supposed to be.
I like Canada just fine, but I wouldn't want to live there. In fact my cousin pointed out that a member of our family would not be able to live there because of gun control.
Johnny_Monkey
05-29-08, 07:27 AM
I like Canada just fine, but I wouldn't want to live there. In fact my cousin pointed out that a member of our family would not be able to live there because of gun control.
Would not or would choose not to?
I wouldn't live in Canada either but only because it's too cold. I find Europe bad enough but the weather here isn't anywhere as cold as in Canada (or the northern states of the USA).
I think I'll probably end up in Australia eventually, but France is probably my preferred place to live overall.
dipy911
05-29-08, 07:32 AM
I've read that guys website before. Most of what he spouts only applies to white liberal elite. I will not move to Canada if Obama becomes president, not that he has a chance.
Johnny_Monkey
05-29-08, 07:39 AM
I've read that guys website before. Most of what he spouts only applies to white liberal elite. I will not move to Canada if Obama becomes president, not that he has a chance.
When you say 'elite' you mean people like the Bushes and the Kennedys and other patrician types?
Olebiker
05-29-08, 07:47 AM
Neil Young alone should cancel out all the atrocities committed by Celine Dions and Alanis Morisettes.
Huh?? That ol' boy can't sing a lick. When it comes to Canadian singers I'll take the late Stan Rogers any day.
Maelstrom
05-29-08, 08:26 AM
Canada is a nice place and I won't be moving to Europe any time soon.
Ditto...no real interest in going to europe, or anywhere else.
oo I would consider Australia. Great group of people and the weather is good, but I would be hard pressed to leave western north america.
Threatening to Move to Canada (http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/2008/02/24/75-threatening-to-move-to-canada)
Often times, white people get frustrated with the state of their country. They do not like the President, or Congress, or the health care system, or the illegal status of Marijuana. Whenever they are presented with a situation that seems unreasonable to them, their first instinct is to threaten to move to Canada.
For example, if you are watching TV with white people and there is a piece on the news about that they do not agree with, they are likely to declare “ok, that’s it, I’m moving to Canada.”
Though they will never actually move to Canada, the act of declaring that they are willing to undertake the journey is very symbolic in white culture. It shows that their dedication to their lifestyle and beliefs are so strong, that they would consider packing up their entire lives and moving to a country that is only slightly different to the one they live in now.
Within white culture, it is agreed upon that if Canada had better weather it would be a perfect place.
Being aware that this information can be used quite easily to gain the trust of white people. Whenever they say, “I’m moving to Canada,” you must immediately respond with “I have relatives in Canada.”
They will then expect you to tell them about how Canada has a perfect healthcare system, legalized everything, and no crime. Though not true, it will reassure them that they are making the right choice by saying they want to move there.
But be warned, they will reference you in future conversations and possibly call on you to settle disputes about Canadian tax rates. So use this advice only if you plan to do some basic research.
*Note: Canadian white people threaten to move to Europe.
**Note: Europeans are unable to threaten to move anywhere.
White people?:notamused:
Huh?? That ol' boy can't sing a lick. When it comes to Canadian singers I'll take the late Stan Rogers any day.
You can write great, meaningful music without having a classic singing voice.
LordFoo
05-29-08, 08:37 AM
In fact my cousin pointed out that a member of our family would not be able to live there because of gun control.
I don't want to make this too P&Rish, but I'm going to claim this as a big "pro".. it's nice to know that the driver I yell at for cutting me off in traffic (probably) won't be armed.
evrknotfailsafe
05-29-08, 09:00 AM
I don't want to make this too P&Rish, but I'm going to claim this as a big "pro".. it's nice to know that the driver I yell at for cutting me off in traffic (probably) won't be armed.
my agreement is complete.
red house
05-29-08, 09:01 AM
White people?:notamused:
Yeah... I know. They sad me too. :(
East Hill
05-29-08, 09:20 AM
Yeah... I know. They sad me too. :(
We can be a disappointing lot, eh?
East Hill
Maelstrom
05-29-08, 09:24 AM
That's a big Con right there, especially factoring in Shania Twain and Crash Test Dummies, but....
Pro: Neil Young, Cowboy Junkies, Sarah McLachlan.
Neil Young alone should cancel out all the atrocities committed by Celine Dions and Alanis Morisettes.
Have fun in Yellowknife before heading to the diamond fields, red house!
Not a fan of neil's singing, but I will concede he was a good song writer. :)
red house
05-29-08, 09:28 AM
We can be a disappointing lot, eh?
East Hill
No... I was talking about canadian white ppl. Canada has lots of them.
pls to pay attn EH!! :beer:
ajay677
05-29-08, 09:30 AM
Pro: hockey, beer, Tim Horton's
Con: government run healthcare, unreformed hippies, cold, technically not it's own country, you have to learn the quebec version of french but they don't have to learn english, not the US
I like this guy. Or gal.
ajay677
05-29-08, 09:33 AM
I don't want to make this too P&Rish, but I'm going to claim this as a big "pro".. it's nice to know that the driver I yell at for cutting me off in traffic (probably) won't be armed.
I wouldn't be too sure these days. Toronto seems to be full of filthy American guns.
Maelstrom
05-29-08, 09:36 AM
I wouldn't be too sure these days. Toronto seems to be full of filthy American guns.
has been for years. They are just coming more into light. Out west we have seen it for a while. We sell them our drugs, they give us their guns...grade tradeoff for both sides of the border. :(
coasting
05-29-08, 09:41 AM
No... I was talking about canadian white ppl. Canada has lots of them.
I thought Canada was full of Asians and bears
ajay677
05-29-08, 09:45 AM
has been for years. They are just coming more into light. Out west we have seen it for a while. We sell them our drugs, they give us their guns...grade tradeoff for both sides of the border. :(
I've got 9500 unemployed autoworkers here. I'll trade you 5000 of them for a couple of pounds of your BC bud. :D
ajay677
05-29-08, 09:46 AM
I thought Canada was full of Asians and beers
That's the left coast. Oh, and I fixed your spelling mistake
Pro: Maple syrup grows on trees.
Con: Moosen will destroy you and all you hold dear.
Canada is a vast country with many subcultures, much like the United States. Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver (the largest cities) differ as much from each other and from the rest of Canada as Anchorage differs from New York. However the common features that separate Canada from the US are
- less income discrepancy,
- higher taxes,
- no war on drugs,
- universal health care,
- lower crime and incarceration rates
- no fundamentalist power block
- less focus on black vs white race relations
- not a world power, so no major foreign wars to pursue
- packaging in English and French - no Spanish!
As an American in Canada be prepared to hear people ***** about Americans a lot. If you're outside Toronto, expect to hear them take cheap shots at Toronto, unless you're in rural Quebec, where they take cheap shots at Montreal.
Maelstrom
05-29-08, 09:52 AM
I've got 9500 unemployed autoworkers here. I'll trade you 5000 of them for a couple of pounds of your BC bud. :D
very tempting, but while they woujld find work quickly (non unionized) they would quickly realize they couldn't afford to live here.
They should move to alberta, drink crappy beer and forget about the auto industry :)
coasting
05-29-08, 09:52 AM
That's the left coast. Oh, and I fixed your spelling mistake
Drunk bears? That's got to be a pro
Maelstrom
05-29-08, 09:53 AM
Canada is a vast country with many subcultures, much like the United States. Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver (the largest cities) differ as much from each other and from the rest of Canada as Anchorage differs from New York. However the common features that separate Canada from the US are
- less income discrepancy,
- higher taxes,
- no war on drugs,
- universal health care,
- lower crime and incarceration rates
- no fundamentalist power block
- less focus on black vs white race relations
- not a world power, so no major foreign wars to pursue
- packaging in English and French - no Spanish!
As an American in Canada be prepared to hear people ***** about Americans a lot. If you're outside Toronto, expect to hear them take cheap shots at Toronto, unless you're in rural Quebec, where they take cheap shots at Montreal.
Onterrible sucks, Torontonians border on being american and the leafs blow chunks (ok this one is true)...
ummmmm....montreal is ... french!!!
ya. Thats it.
have you seen the spoof movie "why everyone hates toronto" (I think thats it) quite funny, especially in a province of 90% transplanted people. Most of us are from ontario and quebec haha
Maelstrom
05-29-08, 09:57 AM
Drunk bears? That's got to be a pro
You gotta see them after they smoke some pot....wooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...good time. But man the munchies always get them
CliftonGK1
05-29-08, 10:14 AM
Pro - metric system
Con - have to learn to speak French
Maelstrom
05-29-08, 10:32 AM
Pro - metric system
Con - have to learn to speak French
Con is void. I can't speak a lick of french. Especially in BC, we are not a bilingual province. Heck even in ontario I was able to work almost anywhere non-government and not speak french. It's not nearly as bilingual as canadians like to pretend we are.
Ever hear of the Tragedy of Canada?
They could have had British culture, French food, and American technology, what they wound up with was American culture, British food, and French technology. :p
(a canadian told me that)
Maelstrom
05-29-08, 10:47 AM
:o
I love british food :)
CliftonGK1
05-29-08, 11:31 AM
Con is void. I can't speak a lick of french. Especially in BC, we are not a bilingual province. Heck even in ontario I was able to work almost anywhere non-government and not speak french. It's not nearly as bilingual as canadians like to pretend we are.
Really? I don't know where I came under the impression that it was a requirement, then... I know that BC isn't much for spoken French, but the signage/labelling/etc. is a government regulation. My fiancee and I used to make frequent trips to Surrey, Burnaby and Vancouver for her job.
Maelstrom
05-29-08, 11:34 AM
Really? I don't know where I came under the impression that it was a requirement, then... I know that BC isn't much for spoken French, but the signage/labelling/etc. is a government regulation. My fiancee and I used to make frequent trips to Surrey, Burnaby and Vancouver for her job.
Ok thats true. Most signs are bilingual. But spoken word, I would be impressed if 50% of english speaking canadians could speak even grade 9 level french. I doubt it even hits a quarter of the population.
It is a requirement in school for 1 credit. That's not very much french in the scheme of things.
I would be impressed if 50% of english speaking canadians could speak even grade 9 level french.Meanwhile, I would be impressed if 50% of English-speaking USians could speak even 9th grade level English. :P
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