Classic & Vintage - Fritalian PX-10
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My name is Ben and I don't post here that often, but I picked up this craigslist Peugeot today and I'm trying to figure out what the deal with it is.
It appears to be a PX-10 (Nervex Pro lugs, simplex dropouts, chrome rear stays) serial #961457.
It's in beater trim and has a mishmash of components, but everything other than the brakes, cranks, and front wheel are Campagnolo (inc. seatpost and binder bolt and cable clamps). Is there a chance this would have been original? Maybe that makes it a PY or PZ?
I also can't figure out what year it is because the downtube logo is different from any I have seen.
Here's a profile pic. The rest are on my flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbutler/
Guess I should post this in the Catch of the Day thread, too.
05-29-08, 12:09 PM
Late sixties. Campy later addition. What are the brakes- Mafac Dural Forge or Mafac Racer? Assuming they're original, this will narrow down the date ever so slightly.
They are modolos, not original, I'm afraid.
05-29-08, 12:16 PM
Some will tell you 69, from the first # in the serial number, but this method is far from foolproof. But 1969 is right in the range I'd put the bike in. My dating is by what I see of the decals, BTW. Headbadge looks like the red field is triangular; "peugeot" on the downtube looks like correct font for that period.
Thank you for the help. Looks like I'll have a lengthy parts list to assemble.
05-29-08, 05:33 PM
My recently purchased PX 10 is the same color, not nervex and a few years newer. Mine also isn't is clean, but is almost all original parts. Nice looking bike. Good luck.
That looks like a fantastic bike!
05-29-08, 09:25 PM
They're worth more to collectors with original parts, but they're better riders with upgraded parts. My PX is all Campagnolo.
05-30-08, 06:22 AM
Its a late 60' as noted earlier. Its NOT a 'PY' as those weren't available until ~'74. It is a 'PX' simply because it has the blue 'inoxdable' decal. But, is it a PX8, PX10, PX45 or a PX50?
PX50: NO. Touring model with generator tab on rear seatstay and a variety of braze-ons
PX45: NO. '5' designates ladies model
PX8: NO. '8' series has braze ons as well as top tube and fork decals like we accustomed to seeing on early 70's P8 (UO/A) series bikes.
PX10: YES!!!! The frame and fork have all the characteristucs of a PX10, chrome on the frame and fork, 'nice' fork crown', no braze ons, Simplex dropouts and the proper decals.
So, what year is it? Its a '68 or '69 but more than likely a '68 as Merckx won the world championship for Peugeot in '67 which is why the OP's bike has the world championship colors that werent on the bikes in '67.
I'm probably going to go the Campy route for now so I can ride it, though with MAFACs and a Stronglight crank when I can scare one up (and prob Cinelli bar/stem). Hope that's not blasphemous, but that seems to be the right mix of functional/correct/readily available.
05-30-08, 06:53 PM
The first thing I'd do is get rid of that seat! A Brooks B17 or Pro would be nice.
Actually I'd get rid of those bars and stem first. They are blasphemy.
Um yeah. They're the cycling equivalent of Groucho glasses. I don't think I would have gotten as great of a deal if it didn't look like a cast-off.
Anyway, they're gone now.
I think we have concensus -- keep the Campag., lose the saddle and the bars.
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