Classic & Vintage - Can anyone identify this hub?

I pulled this out of "the bike dumpster" last year and haven't gotten around to trying to get the freewheel and remains of the wheel off of it yet. Someone chopped most of the spokes before chucking it in the dumpster. Hopefully there are enough to still get the freewheel off intact. The spindle, though bent on one end really spins like butter. It's smooth. It's an attractive, very large flange, too. I believe the barrel is chromed steel, flanges are aluminum alloy. I tried to get in there to clean it up better but it's a bit tough with rusty spokes poking out. No markings that I can discern anywhere on the hub. The freewheel is a decent-looking Regina unit and the rim is a Schurmann if that helps in any way with dating the hub, etc.

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http://lh6.ggpht.com/relistan/SECvetpfBqI/AAAAAAAAAIo/lWDfhQgGY90/parts5.jpg?imgmax=800
http://lh4.ggpht.com/relistan/SECvex-Yb6I/AAAAAAAAAIw/IeQ10_euDxc/parts6.jpg?imgmax=800

Cheers,
Karl

Usually there will be the name of the manufacturer on the body between the flanges - under the crud. :D

Don't know what it is but I like it. Regina GS is a pretty nice freewheel, but the steel pie-plate and solid axle would imply a pretty low-end start for these parts. Maybe a boom Italian bike originally? If you are going to single speed the hub, clean up the freewheel real nice and put it on ebay. I've got some real decent money for those wide range GS's in the past.

Hey Zorro, well I had checked all of the barrel itself and the inside flanges for any markings. I didn't see anything there. You can't tell really well from those photos but the center of the barrel was all cleaned up.

Otis, hey thanks for the info. Well I actually picked up the whole wheel because I wanted that Regina frewheel. But then I decided the hub was kind of cool and didn't want to destroy it taking off the freewheel. I hope the remaining spokes are strong enough to let me get the freewheel off.

Yeah the pie plate and steel rim are pretty low range parts. The freewheel is nice, though, but maybe it was put on the bike later.

I was guessing some more obscure Italian or German brand for the hub. Way-Assauto? I dunno. Hope someone knows!

Karl

Perhaps early Normandy or Pelissier, based on the lack of removable cup seals? With the exception of the shape of the holes, they do look like the Pelissiers found here. (http://www.classicrendezvous.com/France/Pelissier_QR_hubs.htm)

You're right, Lynn, the barrels do look like the Pelissiers. The flanges are quite different though. Maybe a lesser model?

Karl

Definitely a european hub -either Italian or French. I think it could be a low end Normandy, due to the pressed steel flanges onto the hub.

Hey Skinny, an older Gnutti, perhaps? All the ones I've ever seen have slots like the newer Normandy hubs.

Jacksbike, those are alloy flanges and steel barrel.

If it's Gnutti, that would make sense with the Italian freewheel, though French bikes used them sometimes. I'm guessing it's off an Italian bike though I have no idea.

Karl

Anyone certain this is a Gnutti?

Karl

You should have cleaned it up better so we can clearly see the construction. Even with all the crud, that looks like a 3-piece chromed steel barrel, not 1-piece like the Gnutti hubs I remember. But the ones I remember are from before the pie plate period.

You should have cleaned it up better so we can clearly see the construction. Even with all the crud, that looks like a 3-piece chromed steel barrel, not 1-piece like the Gnutti hubs I remember. But the ones I remember are from before the pie plate period.

So until I can get the right freewheel remover from my friend to try to take it off the hub I can't pull out the cut spokes. Until I can pull out the cut spokes I can't get in there to clean it up more without damage to my limbs. I was hoping to find out what it was before I went through this effort so that I don't spend a couple of hours extracting it and cleaning it up to find out it's a known piece of junk.

Thanks for the help.

Karl