I wonder what will happen if I post the same question among the commuters :bike2:

Being a pain in your tail.

I have three-year-old twins. You gotta try a lot harder than that.

Here's the ride I did today. Took 3 hours. All on local bike paths.

http://www.cablingcontractor.net/misc/personal/June52008.jpg

Note the modest elevation gain, yet the graph makes it look like Mount Everest. I like!

Cool! Did that come from a GPS? I need to justify purchasing one.

Is Vasquez Rocks in there someplace? One of my old hangouts...

And, uh, to the OP... sorry for the content drift.

Cool! Did that come from a GPS? I need to justify purchasing one.

Is Vasquez Rocks in there someplace? One of my old hangouts...

And, uh, to the OP... sorry for the content drift.

I live right next to the Magic Mountain Amusement Park, so this all around that general area. Just a few miles west of Vasquez Rocks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasquez_Rocks). Yes, it's a GPS, an Edge 305.
http://www.heartmonitors.com/garmin_heart_monitors/garmin_305_edge.jpg

Whoop! Whoop!

bauterie wrote:
You've also had some crappy doctors which aren't scientists btw.

Speaking of trolling... unless you sit on the licensing board of the notoriously evil College of Closed Minded Physicians and Surgeons...

unless you sit on the licensing board of the notoriously evil College of Closed Minded Physicians and Surgeons...

believe it or not, they have an awesome football team! Just say'n...

lil brown bat wrote:
Strawman.

Not at all. You're the one who started with the "bad science" rap.

Science isn't everything. Not everything is provable scientifically. And anything used to buttress that point will be unscientific... and therefore irrelevant to you.

I'd say that if you claim something is wrong, but you won't support it with evidence or proof, your assertion is worth somewhat less than the paper it's not printed on. Damfino exactly what it is you're claiming here, though; the sentences above don't make a lot of sense to me.You're the one who claimed it was wrong. I'm the one who has experienced and witnessed the proof. You choose scientific explanations over decades of the author's clinical and my anecdotal evidence. Therefore nothing I type will convince you. So you remain correct.

Couldn't agree more. So when are you gonna stop ringing that cowbell? :DIt's not me ringing it. It was your red-green shirt analogy straw man. I understand the point you're making, but you're incorrect.

That's nice for you and them; that doesn't make it good science.Nobody said it did. Two generations of clinical experience and evidence isn't enough for scientists. Their minds remain closed until they see double blind studies and other "proof".

It's just not the case that the results they get from doing so are the result of eating foods that are "right" for their blood type.You have no way of knowing that... other than the Luddites at quackwatch.

Bosh, bosh, bosh, bosh.I've no idea what that means... perhaps it's a scientific term that crushes all arguments... meaning that science has triumphed again.

Guess you showed me.

bauterie wrote:


Speaking of trolling... unless you sit on the licensing board of the notoriously evil College of Closed Minded Physicians and Surgeons...

Que? Lost me on that one.

From personal experience Atkins and bicycling works just fine. What people don't understand is that the whole point of Atkins isn't meat/cheese/eggs. Even in the initial "induction" phase you are required to eat vegetables. After that you slowly add foods back in in a structured way that is designed to help you figure out exactly how many carbs you can eat to maintain your goal weight and find which foods cause you problems. When you are at or nearly at your goal you are allowed to eat just about anything with the exception of refined carbs and sugars.

After that you slowly add foods back in in a structured way that is designed to help you figure out exactly how many carbs you can eat to maintain your goal weight and find which foods cause you problems. When you are at or nearly at your goal you are allowed to eat just about anything with the exception of refined carbs and sugars.

That's where I always went wrong. I would lose so much weight on induction, I never went off induction. :(

bauteri wrote:
Que? Lost me on that one.

You slagged doctors I know. If that's not troll bait... then maybe you sit on the licensing board?

This thread is still going.... SSSHHHEESSSHHHH

If the "eat for your blood type" worked for you, great. Claim that is worked for you and move on. It's been discussed and dis-proven so many times that it gets old arguing about it. Everybody and every body are going to respond differently. What worked for me doesn't always work for others. My body responded well to a low but balanced caloric intake and LSD workouts. Other's didn't and needed to use intense workouts and high intakes to lose weight. It's hard to argue with the "eat right and exercise" analogy. It's been working for so long that it makes no sence to try and find an easy fad diet for get around the fact that it's just that simple.

bauteri wrote:


You slagged doctors I know. If that's not troll bait... then maybe you sit on the licensing board?

Check out what you wrote in post number 35 jackass.


One very senior, well-renowned physician once laughed when i said I was allergic to something. She looked me in the eye and said "Allergies are all in a patient's head".

That's crazy. Plenty of people have no idea they're allergic until their bodies react. Sometimes deadly allergies appear later in life.

You "slagged" (whatever the hell that kind of slang is) the doctors you knew yourself. My comment was in reference to the physician (thats a fancy word for DOCTOR by the way) who laughed and denied allergies. That is a crappy doctor. Did you say physician and mean physicist who holds a doctorate degree?

Regardless, back under your bridge.

Que? Lost me on that one.

It's got a burr up its tail about scientists and doctors that tell it things that it doesn't want to hear. They are apparently evil, close-minded, and part of a conspiracy to keep us all in the dark.

It's got a burr up its tail about scientists and doctors that tell it things that it doesn't want to hear. They are apparently evil, close-minded, and part of a conspiracy to keep us all in the dark.

There is a position opening up in the licensing board of the notoriously evil College of Closed Minded Physicians and Surgeons, or LBotNECoCMPaS for short. Care to come abord? The room itself is damp and smells a bit but we do have lots of Haagen-Dazs sorbet. Plus we get to piss off the science-be-damned creationists.

I'm in the process on developing a diet based upon your Zodiac sign. I'm a Pisces so sea food is what my body needs. If you're Taurus you need a lot of beef. If you're Gemini you can have anything you want but must eat 2 of whatever food item you choose. Aquarius must have lots of water... You get the point.

I'm in the process on developing a diet based upon your Zodiac sign. I'm a Pisces so sea food is what my body needs. If you're Taurus you need a lot of beef. If you're Gemini you can have anything you want but must eat 2 of whatever food item you choose. Aquarius must have lots of water... You get the point.

I'm a libra, does that mean I have to eat balance scales?

I'm a libra, does that mean I have to eat balance scales?

Close, you need to weigh your food. When my book comes out it will explain all this stuff. :thumb:

I am no nutitional expert, but most of the literature I've seen regarding diet and cycling warn not to drop too much of the carbs. If you go with an Atkins style diet, you may run into serious carb deficiency and it will cause you great problems with energy.

It is much worse than that. The Atkins diet is inherently unhealthy, and no one is even trying to say it isn't. However, it may be more healthy than being obese & sedentary. Pick your poison.

I personally embrace the glycemic index diets. You can eat as much carbohydrate as you want, as long as it isn't super processed crap. I can tell a big difference in the way I feel if I eat a twinky vs. beans on brown rice.

I'm a libra, does that mean I have to eat balance scales?

Dear God! That means I'm stuck with a diet of GOAT! BLECH! :p

I'm in the process on developing a diet based upon your Zodiac sign. I'm a Pisces so sea food is what my body needs. If you're Taurus you need a lot of beef. If you're Gemini you can have anything you want but must eat 2 of whatever food item you choose. Aquarius must have lots of water... You get the point.

I am a pisces and I love sea food.... hhhmmmm maybe I've been wrong all these years.. maybe science really is just a crap shoot.:roflmao2:

Cancer here. Gimme da crabcakes!

(Leos are kinda outta luck though)

bauterie wrote
My comment was in reference to the physician (thats a fancy word for DOCTOR by the way) who laughed and denied allergies. Shoulda said that then. Your other comments led me to believe you were insulting the good doctors.

Plus we get to piss off the science-be-damned creationists.

Pissing them off is easy. They're even more close-minded.:D

lil brown bat wrote
They are apparently evil, close-minded, and part of a conspiracy to keep us all in the dark.

If Tesla and Edison had waited to provide scientists proof, we’d still be living in the dark...or maybe candle or gaslight.

Everything known about electricity is based on the Electron THEORY of Current Flow.

Nobody has ever seen an atom, let alone an electron. It’s all theory -- there is no proof that’s how works. (FWIW there are other theories, including one that purports electricity comes from the earth’s magnetic fields. But few believe them.)

Which means every time you flip a light switch or even type at your computer, you’re doing something you know works, but can’t prove. So are you wearing your red or green shirt? :D

Oh, good grief...what a load of gibberish that last post is! Not only do you have weird ideas about diet, you're ignorant with respect to electricity, too.

I'm a virgo...does that mean I get a diet of virgin's? If so Mrs. Spartan is gonna be really mad.

Cancer here. Gimme da crabcakes!

(Leos are kinda outta luck though)That depends...would a Leo eat a lion's diet, or would a Leo eat a diet of lions? Lions, of course, eat the lion's share of everything, but you could consider a lion to be just a big puss_ycat...

The censorship criteria for this board is utterly silly! It won't let me say "*****cat".

In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.

I feel best, think most clearly, and have the most energy when eating a low-carbohydrate diet. Not necessarily strict, induction-level Atkins, but low. Say, under 40-50 grams/day.

I commute 28 miles/day and don't bonk.

Of course you don't...commuting 14 miles to work isn't the same as training as a racer, or riding hard for 25, 30, 50 miles a trip, for example. For your level of activity, your carb intake is probably fine...but in both theory and practice, what works for you may not work well for others. ;)

Edit: Nevermind, I see you are pretty much making the same point in subsequent replies.

I bet it won't let me write about including ****ake mushrooms in my diet, either.

Yup...sh_itake is a no-no!

Caincando1 wrote:
If the "eat for your blood type" worked for you, great. Claim that is worked for you and move on. It's been discussed and dis-proven so many times that it gets old arguing about it.

Until this thread, I wasn't aware that what works had been dis-proven, or that it had been argued about.

deraltekluge wrote:
Oh, good grief...what a load of gibberish that last post is! Not only do you have weird ideas about diet, you're ignorant with respect to electricity, too.

Not at all. Work in the industry. Nice try tho.

That's beatable in other ways, too... I could use letters like ì í î ï and ù ú ü in the words.

deraltekluge wrote:


Not at all. Work in the industry. Nice try tho.

Meter reader?

Not at all. Work in the industry. Nice try tho.Really? Doing what? Mopping the floors?

Meter reader?

Really? Doing what? Mopping the floors?

Nice.

This forum increasingly reminds me of Road.

I work in the electrical industry and I can assure everyone that electricity does indeed exist and can be proven.

I work in the electrical industry and I can assure everyone that electricity does indeed exist and can be proven.

Thank goodness, I was going to throw my tv and laptop out the window.

I'm a virgo...does that mean I get a diet of virgin's? If so Mrs. Spartan is gonna be really mad.

Woo hoo...me too! Where's the nearest Virgin Buffet?

I've read this thread, and noticed that no one mentioned Fitday as a diet/exercise tool

OK, back to the issue.

What I have learned so far. You can lose weight & commute.

Bonking should not be an issue since most commutes are less than an hour. However, a healthy low-fat snack an hour after arriving is a good idea. Another healthy low-fat snack an hour before riding home is good too. These snacks plus a low-calorie electrolyte beverage like G2 should fuel the body during work.

I'm going to see if I lose weight based on the above habits.

Michael

I'm in the process on developing a diet based upon your Zodiac sign. I'm a Pisces so sea food is what my body needs. If you're Taurus you need a lot of beef. If you're Gemini you can have anything you want but must eat 2 of whatever food item you choose. Aquarius must have lots of water... You get the point.

:eek: I'm a Virgo!

Thats either really cool or really :eek:

Nobody has ever seen an atom, let alone an electron.

I believe the Large Hadron Collider will produce weak force gauge bosons and moist, fluffy cupcakes.