Road Cycling - ASAP help removing reflectors!

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J-McKech
12-27-03, 12:54 PM
The reflectors on my wheels, they are plastic with plastic screws, but the screws ONLY screw in and dont have a backing so the screwdriver can screw them out...How can i take them off without damaging the bike (if i have to break the reflector i will, but how?)
Thanks Guys
roadfix
12-27-03, 01:19 PM
You better get them off ASAP...... you don't wanna be seen in public with them!! Use needle nosed pliers to nibble small pieces off the tabs bit by bit. Just be careful with the spokes. Same goes for the spoke protectors!
jeff williams
12-27-03, 01:43 PM
I used vise grips ( large) putting the teeth on the edge\ not the flat and cracking- either side of spoke and pulled apart. g-luck.
Options as I see them:
1. Ride around with them and get laughed at...but you probably won't get hit by any cars.
2. Bring it to the LBS and pay them (using Dr. Evil voice here) "One Million Dollars" for something you can do in 4 minutes.
3. Use a hammer and bash the hell out of it...although that will wreck the wheel.
4. Buy a rotary tool (dremel) and use the cutting wheel...make sure you cut around the spoke, NOT through it.
PJBAZ :-)
fogrider
12-27-03, 04:14 PM
try a drill and drill out the screws.
Veganese
12-27-03, 04:14 PM
Why is everyone so adverse to reflectors?
Isn't visibility a good thing?
Its not like they add large amounts of weight so what's the beef?
jeff williams
12-27-03, 05:01 PM
hmmm- I use the 3m reflect tape 'cause it weighs nothing- spoke tension changes ( the ones I've seen you fit between 3 spokes)- big ugly crap on your wheels-
look real dumb on a mtb.
Along the same line of advice as the pliers, you can also try a crabcracker or nutcracker. :)
OneTinSloth
12-27-03, 06:19 PM
i usually slide the reflector up as close to the hub as possible, grab them on either side and twist until they break. it doesn't really harm the spokes, and you can be all like "RAR!!! HAIRY MAN!!!!!" afterward.
Along the same line of advice as the pliers, you can also try a crabcracker or nutcracker. :)
Thirded.
How can i take them off without damaging the bike (if i have to break the reflector i will, but how?)
Thanks Guys
Grab the "screw" around the outside with Vise Grips and unscrew. They will back out with a bit of force.
Any bicycle that comes with reflectors is only masquerading as a bike. Please destroy the sinister counterfeit. Buy a real bicycle. That's all I have to say.
One more thing. A torch would work well. Plus you get the added benefit of fast compaction -- a definite plus when carrying it to the recycler's, AFTER you get your REAL bicycle. Okay, now I'm finished. Doo, de-doo, de-doo.
They have to put reflectors on a bike when its sold to you, its a law.
They have to put reflectors on a bike when its sold to you, its a law.
. . . atleast in my state it is.
rancid_chicken
12-28-03, 12:10 AM
At the shop I work at, we just grab them and twist very slowly. Be very gentile on the wheels that have fewer spokes and twist slower.
Noone at where I work has broken a spoke or knocked a wheel out of true by doing this.
Phatman
12-28-03, 11:59 AM
. . . atleast in my state it is.
yea, I asked the LBS guy once...they have to have like 6 or 8 on the bike when they sell it. I had 8 on mine...one on the h-bar, one on the seatpost (still there) two on each wheel and one on each pedal.
Veganese
12-28-03, 04:36 PM
Why does everyone hate reflectors so much? Is it an image thing?
Heck, if I thought dressing myself in X-mas light and glo sticks would keep me from getting hit by some freak in an SUV, I'd do it.
They have to put reflectors on a bike when its sold to you, its a law.
I have gotten varied explanations on this over the course of my bike buying experiences. One shop said they had to put or leave the reflectors on that came from the manufacturer no matter what. Others have told me that as long as the bike has not been modified, the reflectors need to be sold with the bike. That same shop said that the bike simply has to be sold with reflectors and handed me my bike with a zip-loc bag full of reflectors hanging from the handlebars. I've also been told that custom and frame-up builds do not have to be sold with reflectors as my last roadbike didn't come with any. I suspect there's a bit of truth in all this and one could probably come up with a composite explanation.
Why does everyone hate reflectors so much? Is it an image thing?
Heck, if I thought dressing myself in X-mas light and glo sticks would keep me from getting hit by some freak in an SUV, I'd do it.
And that would probably be somewhat effective... while reflectors are not. They only provide a false sense of safety and a lot of people use them as an excuse for not getting proper lighting and visibility enhancement devices. Additionally, reflectors tend to work themselves loose and do nothing more than just cause more trail and road litter.
jeff williams
12-28-03, 05:24 PM
And that would probably be somewhat effective... while reflectors are not. They only provide a false sense of safety and a lot of people use them as an excuse for not getting proper lighting and visibility enhancement devices. Additionally, reflectors tend to work themselves loose and do nothing more than just cause more trail and road litter.
and in saying all, if you have no proper lighting devices -put 3m relect tape or reflectors on the SIDE, front and back of your bike.
If you were to be hit ( g-forbid ) @ night by a car- you can prob kiss any court settlement goodbye.
Dchiefransom
12-28-03, 05:41 PM
Reflector requirements depend on the state, and whether any law enforcment officer decides you need to follow the law. Last year when I went through the Vehicle Code for California, it required bicycles to have two reflectors that could be seen from each side of the bike, another one on the front, and another one on the back. It didn't specify that lights could subsitute. They might have changed it for 2004. A person I know on another forum was incensed at having to pay a fine while visiting Florida. A local cop wrote him up in broad daylight for missing his reflectors. I think it cost him $86. At least in my area the police have a bit more sense, and would wait until dark.
My commuter has everything but the front and back reflectors. I've even got the yellow reflectors front and back on the pedals. Most new bikes in the store come with two sided Shimano SPD pedals with a plastic insert that has the yellow reflectors, and the stores will usually give them to you for free. I have one red blinkie in the back and just got a space bar and second Cateye EL-300 from Performance with my Christmas gift certificate. I'll be adding another red blinkie in the back at a slightly different horizontal and vertical angle for better coverage.
rancid_chicken
12-28-03, 09:46 PM
On millitary bases you are required to have a rear reflector and a front headlight.
Where I live now, the TN state Troopers have said that they require just a rear reflector, but they do strongly believe in the flashing rear tail light.
Why does everyone hate reflectors so much? Is it an image thing?
Heck, if I thought dressing myself in X-mas light and glo sticks would keep me from getting hit by some freak in an SUV, I'd do it.
We don;t hate relfectors... Its just a...
Image thing ;)
Plus....
We spend $$$$ to decrease on the overall bike weight and improve aerodynamics... Reflectors are xx grams and could ruin your aero :mad: ... And its the cheapest way to save on weight...
And, I don't race/ride at night, I don't see the need for reflectors...
And, jerseys are bright enough for drivers to see me... The rear part of cycling shoes are reflective, or at least some have reflective coating on them..
BTW, if you commute at night, you must have reflectors and/or blinking lights... :)
Why does everyone hate reflectors so much? Is it an image thing?
Heck, if I thought dressing myself in X-mas light and glo sticks would keep me from getting hit by some freak in an SUV, I'd do it.
We pay so much for perimeter balanced wheels with machined sections with an aero profile. Why the heck would you go and add a huge chunk of plastic which unbalances the whole wheel.
What a ridiculous concept.
Quick the world is falling apart! Has anyone got any duct taoe? ;)
shokhead
12-29-03, 08:23 AM
Why is everyone so adverse to reflectors?
Isn't visibility a good thing?
Its not like they add large amounts of weight so what's the beef?
Dont need it and it looks dumb.Dont need the weight.They dont do that much good,its been tested.You can have all of mine.
Dont need it and it looks dumb.Dont need the weight.They dont do that much good,its been tested.You can have all of mine.
Don't throw or give away your old reflectors. Do what I do and turn them into Christmas tree ornaments. This of course assumes that you celebrate Christmas. :D
shokhead
12-29-03, 06:50 PM
Don't throw or give away your old reflectors. Do what I do and turn them into Christmas tree ornaments. This of course assumes that you celebrate Christmas. :D
Thats a good idea.
Any bicycle that comes with reflectors is only masquerading as a bike. Please destroy the sinister counterfeit. Buy a real bicycle. That's all I have to say.
the lemond tete de course i put together at work the other day isn't a real bike?
sucks to be whoever forks out a few grand for that thing...
shokhead
12-30-03, 09:06 AM
Any bicycle that comes with reflectors is only masquerading as a bike. Please destroy the sinister counterfeit. Buy a real bicycle. That's all I have to say.
By law in most states,they have to be on any new bike sold,even a real bike.
Trekaholic
12-30-03, 10:06 AM
Any bicycle that comes with reflectors is only masquerading as a bike. Please destroy the sinister counterfeit. Buy a real bicycle. That's all I have to say.
I've got a "real bicycle" that came with wheel reflectors -- a Trek 5200. It hardly masquerades as a bike. I think there's a law that required the bike to be sold with the reflectors.
I do a bit of night riding, so I removed them and put some small reflective tape pieces on the rim. Same effect as the reflectors, but you don't really notice them in the daytime.
shokhead
12-30-03, 01:46 PM
I've got a "real bicycle" that came with wheel reflectors -- a Trek 5200. It hardly masquerades as a bike. I think there's a law that required the bike to be sold with the reflectors.
I do a bit of night riding, so I removed them and put some small reflective tape pieces on the rim. Same effect as the reflectors, but you don't really notice them in the daytime.
I was just at the bike shop looking at the 04's.The gray paint job is nice but next to it was a blue one,really nice with matching rims.Only difference i could see was a carbon seat post and it was a triple.
SD Fixed
12-30-03, 03:12 PM
On millitary bases you are required to have a rear reflector and a front headlight.
bullpuckey
bullpuckey
William,
I believe the correct term is "Applesauce, Stinky Applesauce".
Marty
I've got a "real bicycle" that came with wheel reflectors -- a Trek 5200. It hardly masquerades as a bike. I think there's a law that required the bike to be sold with the reflectors.
I do a bit of night riding, so I removed them and put some small reflective tape pieces on the rim. Same effect as the reflectors, but you don't really notice them in the daytime.
That's not a bike, THIS is a bike!
That's not a knife...
Crikey!
What a fine tradition Oz holds of crocodile men in the US. :lol:
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