Classic & Vintage - Mailard hubs - made in france..

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SD Fixed
12-27-03, 08:14 PM
When were they made and for what bikes were they made?


Poguemahone
12-27-03, 08:34 PM
Maillard 700 hubs were stock on a number of higher end mid to late seventies Peugeots. Past that, I'm unsure. The company was eventually absorbed by Sachs, like nearly every other French component maker (Stronglight and Mavic being, I believe, the exceptions).

lotek
12-28-03, 07:48 AM
William,
I believe that Maillard hubs were used on all manner
of FRENCH bikes. I've seen them on Frejus, Motos, Peugots, Gitane etc. They weren't produced for one
specific bike.

Marty


dafydd
12-28-03, 07:53 AM
You see them on a lot of 80s Schwinns and early Treks as well. If you have a helicomatic hub you might as well keep it as a curiousity, it's not good for much else.

Louis
12-28-03, 08:20 PM
The mid 50's Raleigh that I restored uses Maillard high flange hubs with Dunlop rims.

SD Fixed
12-30-03, 01:07 PM
It's a 36 hole front hub on a 700cc rim. Hoping that it'll be useable for front wheel for my bike, found it a bit of an oddity.

legalize_it
12-30-03, 06:09 PM
my 80's raleigh technium came equipped with maillard hubs

Walter
12-30-03, 06:20 PM
Lots of Maillard high flange hubs on Schwinns in the 1970s. They roll well.

smurfy
12-31-03, 06:13 PM
I received a late '80s Peugeot mtn bike in a trade for a crank I wasn't using and it has Diablo hubs, which I believe were Malliard's mountain bike line with beefier-looking hub shells.

legalize_it
01-02-04, 10:47 AM
I received a late '80s Peugeot mtn bike in a trade for a crank I wasn't using and it has Diablo hubs, which I believe were Malliard's mountain bike line with beefier-looking hub shells.

can i see a pic of those diablos?

smurfy
01-02-04, 02:49 PM
I don't have a picture, I need to get a good digital camera instead of those Kodak one-users, sorry! The hubs are in pretty rough shape and even a decent camera probably wouldn't get a good image.

Anyway, I spelled it wrong - it should be spelled DIABOLO. Under the Diabolo name it says "Made in France" with the Malliard "M" symbol between the "in" and "France". Under that is the words "Sealed Mechanism" in cursive script.

Well, that was alot of descriptive writing for a couple of cheap hubs!

Chris_N
01-05-04, 10:18 AM
my 80's raleigh technium came equipped with maillard hubs

I picked-up a Technium from my neighbor's trash pile. Does anyone know of any sort of manual/reference on the Mailard hub brake (rear only). It (the bike and the hub) seems to be in okay shape, but I'd feel more comfortable if I knew a bit more about inspecting it for wear etc.

legalize_it
01-05-04, 10:28 AM
I picked-up a Technium from my neighbor's trash pile. Does anyone know of any sort of manual/reference on the Mailard hub brake (rear only). It (the bike and the hub) seems to be in okay shape, but I'd feel more comfortable if I knew a bit more about inspecting it for wear etc.

when you say hub brake, do you mean coaster brake? the kind that you have to back-pedal to stop? i *think* theres a bunch of different technium models. when raleigh used the name technium it means it has aluminum tubes that are bonded together. if you're a heavy rider this probably means eventual frame failure.

id like to see a picture of the bike youre talking about

Chris_N
01-05-04, 12:54 PM
This is a hand-operated brake that has the "business-end" located in a shell on the hub. I'm not real sure what's in the shell (disc? drum?), which is part of my concern. I can't seem to find out much about Mailard (the marking on the reaction arm) on the web other than this forum...

I mostly use the bike to commute a short distance on paved paths, so hopefully the frame should hold (although I can't vouch for its prior use).

I'll try to get a picture tonight.


when you say hub brake, do you mean coaster brake? the kind that you have to back-pedal to stop? i *think* theres a bunch of different technium models. when raleigh used the name technium it means it has aluminum tubes that are bonded together. if you're a heavy rider this probably means eventual frame failure.

id like to see a picture of the bike youre talking about

legalize_it
01-05-04, 01:34 PM
This is a hand-operated brake that has the "business-end" located in a shell on the hub. I'm not real sure what's in the shell (disc? drum?), which is part of my concern. I can't seem to find out much about Mailard (the marking on the reaction arm) on the web other than this forum...

I mostly use the bike to commute a short distance on paved paths, so hopefully the frame should hold (although I can't vouch for its prior use).

I'll try to get a picture tonight.

sounds like it is a drum brake. id be glad to take it off your hands if you dont want it!

Poguemahone
01-05-04, 04:43 PM
Ah, the old Sachs hub brake. Proabably on a technium Citilite. I had one of them, the frame's in the basement. My hub could be dissembled and the bearings
greased -- it's not that complicated. Just take a piece of newspaper and lay out the parts in the order you take them off the bike-- there are enough washers, etc. that re-assembly can be confusing if you don't take this precaution. The bearings are not really sealed as we think of them (ie not cartridge bearings, but loose ball bearings) Obviously, dont grease the brake area. Mine worked for ten years fine with no maintenance other than this.

Drum/Hub brakes are great on commuters, providing ample stopping power, esp. in wet conditions. Shimano still makes them in the nexus line, and the shimanos have a better, more gradual braking feel than the Sachs.

Chris_N
01-05-04, 08:00 PM
Yes, that's the bike, Raleigh Technium Citisport (reads Citilite on the top bar of the frame, Citisport on the lower bar).

I'll try lubing the bearings (the brake sometimes doesn't release well, sounds like that would be the fix there) ...are there wear-and-tear parts to look out for?

Thanks


Ah, the old Sachs hub brake. Proabably on a technium Citilite. I had one of them, the frame's in the basement. My hub could be dissembled and the bearings
greased -- it's not that complicated. Just take a piece of newspaper and lay out the parts in the order you take them off the bike-- there are enough washers, etc. that re-assembly can be confusing if you don't take this precaution. The bearings are not really sealed as we think of them (ie not cartridge bearings, but loose ball bearings) Obviously, dont grease the brake area. Mine worked for ten years fine with no maintenance other than this.

Drum/Hub brakes are great on commuters, providing ample stopping power, esp. in wet conditions. Shimano still makes them in the nexus line, and the shimanos have a better, more gradual braking feel than the Sachs.

Poguemahone
01-06-04, 04:29 PM
The brake release has noting to do with the bearings-- they're standard hub bearings, nothing more. More likely culprits for a sticking brake are the cable or levers, esp. since the bike was likely stored a while. Pull the rear wheel off the bike (an operation with these hubs), and detach the brake from the cable (there's a hook mechanism at the cable end). There's a lever sticking off the hub that the cable attaches to, see if you can trigger the brake there (by hand, with the hub detached form the brake cable) and observe how it releases. If the brake itself is sticking, I dunno. But it seems more likely it's the cable.

whtcrow
08-02-07, 08:28 AM
I can send you a pic of those hubs if you like...I bought an 80 something Peugeot "Alpine Express". It has the biopace chainrings, the hubs, and looks to be in overall good condition...reynolds tubing too!