Mountain Biking - help me decide

alright, i'm looking to buy my first mountain bike and i'm stuck between a specialized hardrock and a trek 4100 or 3700. what do you suggest?

I would say the Hardrock. This seems to be a killer bike in the 'bang for the buck' category.

Depends. The hardrock is more of a hardtail freeride bike so the frame is made to take a bit more of a beating than the Treks you mentioned. It's probably a bit heavier too. Consider it if you are doing things where you will be getting airborne, urban stunt riding, etc.

If you are going to be using the bike more as a trail/fitness bike, both will work but the Trek will probably be lighter and easier for long uphill climbs.

The hardrocks do look like they can take more of a beating especialy in the head tube area but its still quite flexy around the bottom bracket and is more of a trail bike. I would choose the hardrock over the trek no matter what.

Trek sucks, Specialized rocks, nuff said.

<snip> Specialized rocks, nuff said.

DITTO!

<snip> Specialized rocks, nuff said.

Sorry, the wife was on here looking around... :)

Ahem... D I T T O

Well...with imperical evidence like that, how can you NOT buy a Specialized? To buy anything else would be kooky-talk! :D

Well...with imperical evidence like that, how can you NOT buy a Specialized? To buy anything else would be kooky-talk! :D

SHAW......TOTALLY....DUDE! :D

Wow. Other than the headset might be stable and biased opinions, noone has really said that many great arguments as to why he would purchase either or... :fight:

Just my thoughts.

Wow. Other than the headset might be stable and biased opinions, noone has really said that many great arguments as to why he would purchase either or... :fight:

Just my thoughts.

Didn't you sense the sarcasm in my post? Darn, I should have used an emoticon!

Wouldn't life be so much easier if one could make every decision based on this sucks or that rules?

"I've got 15 seconds before this bomb explodes and I have to cut either the blue wire, or the red wire...hmmm, the color red sucks and blue rules, so I'll cut the blue...<snip>..." ** KABOOM!"

I say test ride them both.

He just asked what we suggested, so I suggested Specialized. He didn't even say what hardrock he was looking at.

Really, it's just 6 of one, half a dozen of another.

I'd suggest a Hardrock for Jumps, and the trek for mainly XC, I have a hardrock and im extremely pleased with it, I dont like Treks Much... I dont like the style of the frames, or the way the bike feels, thats just me though..

He just asked what we suggested, so I suggested Specialized. He didn't even say what hardrock he was looking at.

Really, it's just 6 of one, half a dozen of another.

...and sometimes, buying a bike does come down to a flip of a coin when you have it narrowed down to two good ones -- and you just HOPE you snipped the right wire!

Well, there is actually 7 different Hardrocks and only two Treks mentioned :-)

Based on the Treks you mention, I'm assuming you're looking at the Hardrock XC or Sport. You might want to also look at the Kona LANA'I.

They're all entry level Mountain Bikes and better than something you could get at Walmart or somewhere like that. (And more expensive...) The Hardrock Sport probably has the best components of the lot.

In a similar position myself. My plan is too buy the hardrock rigid, which is like £225 for the 03, £260 for the 04 - then add a decent marz fork. Should come out at the same price as a hr sport, but with a better fork. Doin this because i want the hardrock, but some reviews ive seen say the fork aint much good, unless your gettin the top of range one.

Matt

I have to admit, I like slightly heavier bikes even for trail riding. The larger mass of something like a freerider or dirtjumper, coupled with their beefier tires, feels more stable to me than a lightweight XC bike -- which sometimes feels squirrelly on loose surfaces, and over wet roots and logs.

You'd think you would have more control on a lighter bike since it's more "flickable". But that doesn't always seem so.

I think lighter weight bikes are more of a concern for competitive XC riders. Not so much for recreational riders. Something to consider when thinking about the beefy Hardrock vs. a lightweight Trek.

Another vote for the Specialized. I love my Trek, but the Hardrock will serve you much better than those low enty level Trek's.

Good luck!!!

-Garrett

Something to consider when thinking about the beefy Hardrock vs. a lightweight Trek.


You really dont get it do you.http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/contrib/dvv/sconf.gif http://mindscraps.com/s/contrib/corky/smilies8.gif

You really dont get it do you.http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/contrib/dvv/sconf.gif http://mindscraps.com/s/contrib/corky/smilies8.gif

You're right. I don't get YOU. Keep talkin' smack, tough guy.

Since it's obvious that you're too immature to play with the grown-ups, why don't you just take your attitude to the forums at PinkBike, and you can trash talk with the other snot-nosed brats who get off on trolling and flaming "cuz it makes 'em feel like a big man".

Still waiting to see if you're capable of providing a response with more than one sentence...

I found the solution. I put this Klein, or whatever, on my ignore list. Hopefully he'll do the same and we'll get along just fine.

Lol... Your one sentance, snotty nosed and useless answers bother me too... Thx for speaking about that Bentrim, I thought it was just me.. :)

Lol... Your one sentance, snotty nosed and useless answers bother me too... Thx for speaking about that Bentrim, I thought it was just me.. :)

CR_Uk,

That was for everybody here who has had to put up with that idiot's insults.

I welcome diverging ideas, and like I said at another thread, 90 percent of the people at this forum are good, helpful people compared to other forums.

Only a fool with a closed mind would discount opinions from other people.

Yet, this KleinMp99 takes cheap-shots, and insults anyone who has an opinion different from him. He doesn't even back up his argument or even explain why he doesn't agree with someone else's opinion.

He just replies with one sentence, neandrethal answers. That speaks loads for the level of his intelligence; or lack thereof.

Also, it's very stupid for him to think he can talk tough behind the anonimity of the internet and hurl insults because there will be no repercussions. Hasn't anyone seen "The Net"?

I mean, if I were really vengeful, how hard would it be to track down a 17 year old bike mechanic at Lakeshore Bikes Inc. in Marquette Michigan? ;)

He doesn't even back up his argument or even explain why he doesn't agree with someone else's opinion.


He is right.....I never posted this on the first page of the thread....read below.


The hardrocks do look like they can take more of a beating especialy in the head tube area but its still quite flexy around the bottom bracket and is more of a trail bike.


Which also means its no heavier or really stronger than any other frame.

Hey poor little baby, I know your going to read this, why dont you do somethin about it then? You gunna come beat me up? Awww.....I am scared man, come on. Mr. "I dont have anything in my bikeforums profile because I am too cool".

Oh yea and nice emails, I dont think I have been called a Cun┼ since 6th grade.

One more thing.....all I said was "you really dont get it do you".....

Wow, what a hot-head, KMP99!

Some people just can't take a little constructive feedback...Chill buddy. Have a cup o' cheer on this New Year and ease up. We're all friends here.

As for the foul language in the e-mails. Are you sure I called you the "c" word in my email? I don't think I'VE used that since the 6th grade. I may have used the "p" word when I asked you to stop acting like one. But that's no more harsh than the stuff you'd be hearing in the forums at PinkBike.com.

Hey, let's not use these forums as a battleground anymore. Send me an e-mail and we'll work everything out.

P.S. So do you think you can still get me a discount on an Enduro Pro, pal o' mine? I would sure appreciate it. Peace. :)

Wow, what a hot-head, KMP99!

Some people just can't take a little constructive feedback...Chill buddy. Have a cup o' cheer on this New Year and ease up. We're all friends here.

As for the foul language in the e-mails. Are you sure I called you the "c" word in my email? I don't think I'VE used that since the 6th grade. I may have used the "p" word when I asked you to stop acting like one. But that's no more harsh than the stuff you'd be hearing in the forums at PinkBike.com.

Hey, let's not use these forums as a battleground anymore. Send me an e-mail and we'll work everything out.

P.S. So do you think you can still get me a discount on an Enduro Pro, pal o' mine? I would sure appreciate it. Peace. :)


I should begin to reply to all your emails, but I dont know where to start, how to say it, or if I should or not.

Whoa!

Let's get back to the topic at hand, and if anyone has anything to say to anyone about something other than this topic, can you address PMs to each other?

Thanks,

Koffee

Mod

Whoa!

Let's get back to the topic at hand, and if anyone has anything to say to anyone about something other than this topic, can you address PMs to each other?

Thanks,

Koffee

Mod

Excellent point.

These "high school" antics going back and forth have to stop.

It's doing nothing to advance this forum and what it should really be about: people who enjoy cycling and want to share ideas in an enjoyable, friendly atmosphere...

I guess it gets a bit personal since people here are so passionate about bikes and brand loyalty.

Bentim you started the whole flame war. You participated in your whole High School antics. I would appreciate it if you stopped trying to control this. What you are angry about is a mute point. One sentence can express all thats needed to be expressed about a person. No need to take it to higher levels

its one kid, one person, chill out and don't act holier than thou

Sometimes Toodamus, someting has to be said, as i said in another post on this thread, Bentrim isnt the only one that finds Klein annoying.... his flaming, stupid and sarcastic answers bother me too....

KB is right though... If we want to pursue this, PM each other..