Foo - The PETA folks are SICK!

I guess it isn't too unusual for people to go over the top when it comes to issues are important to them, but sometimes they go to far and hurt other people.

Did you hear about what the "People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals" activist group did recently? It is so bizarre that I couldn't believe it, so I checked their website where they proudly detail their madness.

Apparently, they printed some frightening and grotesque comic book with a mother stabbing a bloody rabbit with a huge bowie knife with the bold title "Your Mother Kills Animals".

This was distributed to children as they stood in line to see the Nutcracker. I have attached the comic book jacket which is disturbing enough. Inside, there is a pic of a skinned carcass - head and all. Very very disturbing. From PETA's website:

PETA activists - including cuddly, costumed raccoons and foxes - are making guest appearances outside performances of The Nutcracker across the country this holiday season with a cheeky message of compassion. As children arrive to see the "Dance of the Sugarplum Fairy," some will be unaware that their mothers are already starring in a real-life horror story! PETA will be there to greet any fur-clad moms and their children with their newest anti-fur leaflet-PETA Comics presents..."Your Mommy Kills Animals!"

Accompanied by graphic photographs of skinned carcasses and animals languishing on fur farms,"

I heard about how some animal-rights activists have done stupid things that ended up hurting animals and people, but I just chalked those actions up as stupid things done by misguided, but well-intended people.

Animal lovers or not, the PETA folks have proven themselves nuts in my book. My charity donations will be finding another home.

Distributing this kind of thing to children in hopes of frightening and shocking them and ultimately dimenting the child's perseptions of their parents is sick.
http://www.furisdead.com/images/mommykills_comic.jpg

Awful! These people are so blinkered and single minded toward their chosen activity they become blinded to the total sensitivity of a rashnel vewpoint...

Rabbits may be "differently genomed", but why should we discriminate against them?

PETA pushes away people who would otherwise contribute to the cause with antics like these.

Incredibly unimpressive.

Funny! I just bought a new fur jacket. The first day I wore it, I had a PETA guy come up and tell me that I was a murderer and that I should be skinned alive like the minks that I was wearing were.

I just laughed in his face and said too bad for them and just for that, I will buy 2 more fur coats!!! ;)

He wasn't amused. :D

Peta does things their own way, which may be crossing the line for many people. Just remember that there are many other animal rights organizations out there that work in a calmer manner that many would find more respectable. I understand why Peta feels they need to go to these extremes to get the message across, but I also understand why it pushes people away that would otherwise be willing to listen.

I think PETA would do better trying to educate people
(and especially kids) rather than shocking them.
I can understand the sentiments/beliefs but not the
way they go about getting the message across.
For me, its like is cursing when presenting an argument, you draw attention to the words, not the point.

Marty

Although I don't care fore PETA (but I do like Pita bread), they are no different than any other company out there. A wrong doesn't make a right, but the tobacco companies are going after children and so is gangster rap.

Well, now that I put it that way, they ARE pretty sick.

I used to work near what Bill O'reilly calls a PETA Pinhead. This guy couldn't shut up. Wore a leather belt and leather shoes, though.

I finally got sick of hearing him jaw, so I wandered over to his cubicle and said I belonged, too. He said "PETA?" with a huge smile, thinking he had found an ally. I said, yup. I think People Eating Tasty Animals is a great organization.

He got so steamed I thought he was going to punch me. Then I asked him how many cows had to die for his shoes and belt. He just sputtered. At least he shut up for a while. But, until he left, we all called him Cowfoot Boy.

Animal rights=Good and Necessary.

PETA=plastic clothed dweebs who continually ruin their crusade by going too far too often.

"we all called him Cowfoot Boy."

LOL :D

Yup, them thar PETA people done give my bossman a heap of trouble come back 3 or 4 years ago.

You could always join this PETA (http://mtd.com/tasty/) if you are not already a member.

I have been a member my entire life :D

:beer:

"Animal lovers or not, the PETA folks have proven themselves nuts in my book. My charity donations will be finding another home."

Mike. Didn't you know that PETA is a hardcore group all this time? You should really do more research before you donate hard earned money.

also "sick" or not this is a bicycle forum and we're talking about PETA sounds like they got exactly what they wanted

"Mike. Didn't you know that PETA is a hardcore group all this time? You should really do more research before you donate hard earned money.

You are correct, sir.

:eek: EWWWWW!!!thats gross! :eek: :cry:

Great pic. but what ever happened to the good old rabbit punch to despatch a rabbit to the potroast :rolleyes:

Yep, this is an example of people who do more harm than good for their cause. When extreme measures like these are taken, it discredits a worthy cause and creates a negative impression of all animal rights activists. I suspect they do it because it gets media attention. Sadly, our media feeds on sensational stories and a less extreme demonstration probably wouldn't receive any coverage.

To shock someone is to get their attention. NRA does it for gun owners, EarthFirst! and ELF do it for the enviromental crowd and PETA does it for animal activist. These organizations have done their job as we and the media are talking about them. Right or wrong, they get their point across.

As minorities (cyclists) we should know that sometimes you have to go to an extreme to prove what you believe in.

But rabit is so tasty!

So many people are so apathetic when it comes to animal rights that education by force and exposure to shocking imagery is the only why to get the message across to the callous masses. Pamphlets showing disturbing images are not new. The only reason this one has made news is because we are lead to believe that the target audience is children, which is all the more outrageous and effective. Some people have no empathy for animals beyond the family pet. It's sad as these are the folks who label PETA as over the top radicals. I see PETA as people who are passionate about animal welfare. Spreading the message about animal cruelty is just one of the jobs, probably the most difficult job. If that pamphlet affects only a handful of people to consider the suffering that an animal has endured to clothe or provide you sustanence then it has done it's job. Wearing fur or leather and eating meat does not have to be incompatible with the message of animal rights. As a consumer you can make an informed purchase with a little research. There are companies that treat animals with respect as living creatures, capable of feeling pain and suffering. This is where I diverge from PETA's message of complete abstinence from animal products. But it generally takes some form of education to enlighten us consumers to the atrocities commited in many fur farms and meat processing plants and convince us that a little effort on our part can make a difference. Here's a video (http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=furfarm) of a fur farm from the website www.furisdead.com which also has a link to the entire pamphlet which I was curious to look at. By the way I'm not a PETA member or a big animal rights advocate, but I do try to do what I can as a consumer.

If someone handed that to my son, I would've leaned over to him (my son) and said, "now son, this is when Daddy losses his temper and punches someone!".

L8R

Is this any different than the stuff that the right-to-lifers hand out?

Interesting justifications for doing the wrong thing

So (blah) consumer.

There is not many ways different than to take it as they were targetting children. Instilling fear or disgust of a childs parent is a poor method of getting a this issue noticed. These fringe groups speak in volumes for the groups as a whole. And if you notice, PETA wasn't exactly jumping out to say "that wasn't right and we're sorry".

Apologize for them all you want..

As an adult, I'd be more open to a logical, fact-based campaign to inform me of animal cruelty. As a child, I'd be completely confused.

So will mommy be frying the rabbits or cooking them in a stew?

YUM YUM!

When I was a kid I went rabbit hunting and my mom would cook em up for me to eat.

But I did not wear them, the fur went into the burning pit.

I know there are cases of animal cruelty when it comes to raising animals for food, but sometimes I wonder why animal rights groups don't go after other predators, like mountain lions?

I had a discussion once with a PETA activist on a radio call in show. This was back when they were doing their anti fishing campaign. I was totally unimpressed by the PETA stance, which advocated no fishing whatsoever. I explained that my license fee and trout stamp dollars, along with the work the club I belong to does, is the only reason many of these fish even existed. The comment I got back was that it was a shame that I didn't donate my time and money without the stipulation that I be able to fish. She refused to answer my question about what direct impact she had in creating animal habitat and life though.

Hey Buzz! Lets have a fish fry on the behalf of PETA. I'll bring some Rabbits to stew as well.

All proceeds could go to the Fish and Game division up there in Michigan to help stock those trout streams.

On a side note, hope you all had a great holiday!

MMMM, rabbit. Love that stuff, only rodent I'll eat. Tell you what Sam, you come up here the right time of year and I'll take you down the river in my driftboat in search of some salmon or steelhead, lots of fun. We'll work in a couple rides in the same trip. As far as my holiday went, I sure hope yours was better than mine, all three kids had flu, now conjunctivitis, Abby with an ear infection on top of it all, and both me and Stace down with strep. Ho Ho Ho my, well you know. Happy trails everyone.

I can't believe the people that would think that someone, or a group of people, using the tactics used by peta as just being "passionate." There are many stories of peta releasing animals into the wild. These animals being released have no defense against predatory animals and face a far worse death. Also the vandalisism they do potentialy causing harm to people. Peta is a cult. Just like all the others they're lunatics.

Just like all the others they're lunatics.

I believe Peta has very questionable tactics, but I'm curious as to who "all the others" you refer to are? Animal rights activists? Believe me, there are many level headed people out there who believe animals deserve better treatment than they get now.

Do you think it is appropriate for an average car driver that gets disturbed by the actions of critical mass to label all cyclists as lunatics? It would make that person seem very ignorant and naive of reality.

I know there are cases of animal cruelty when it comes to raising animals for food, but sometimes I wonder why animal rights groups don't go after other predators, like mountain lions?

How I have been waiting for someone else to say that!!!

I would like to know what PETA thinks about predatorial animals attacking and ripping the flesh off of their prey, while it is still alive and dying, as shown on the animal channel!?!?!? At least we are humane about killing cattle...within a split second, it's dead!

I believe Peta has very questionable tactics, but I'm curious as to who "all the others" you refer to are? Animal rights activists? Believe me, there are many level headed people out there who believe animals deserve better treatment than they get now.

Do you think it is appropriate for an average car driver that gets disturbed by the actions of critical mass to label all cyclists as lunatics? It would make that person seem very ignorant and naive of reality.

I'm not basing my opinion of peta from the masses. I'm basing it on my feelings towards them. In my statement "all the others" I was refering to cults. My belief of a cult is a group of like minded people that think their actions, however extreme, are justified. Breaking the law because you don't believe in something, or you believe something different, in my opinion, makes you a lunatic.

Believe me, I'm an animal lover. I've got five dogs. Some were from the pound and some were gotten to keep them from going to the pound. I believe there are plenty of org. that benefit animals. But you don't read about these org. breaking laws or outrages publicity stunts to get attention.

The way I see it, animals DON'T have rights, humans do.
Humans have the responsibility of treating animals well.
That gets to be a big job for me raising 1500 head of hogs a year and helping with another 2000.
Course I just used a very un-PC concept, personal responsibility.

Humans have the responsibility of treating animals well.

Course I just used a very un-PC concept, personal responsibility.
I don't have a conscience. I prefer PETA to do my thinking for me.

I don't have a conscience. I prefer PETA to do my thinking for me.

Hee, hee. We know better, Pete :D

PETA is weird to the max. and militant. They are also very very liberal/socialist to the point beyond the red Chinese I think. Total fanatics comrade and all. That's my opinion, and it should be yours types. I wouldn't give these people my leftovers personally. Throw em a real bone. Bwahahahaaaaaa. harde harhar

They are also very very liberal/socialist to the point beyond the red Chinese I think. Total fanatics comrade and all. That's my opinion, and it should be yours types.

Which political agenda are you promoting there, dude? Sort of an ironic post.

Rabbits may be "differently genomed", but why should we discriminate against them?

Because they taste good and make great outerwear.

How Sad. But Yum tho!


Love Animals People! And Eat Them!

PETA is just a lonely fool looking for attention.

As Throreau talked about in 'Walden', much work is not valued despite being arguable more valuable than 'traditionally valued' work.

It leads to lots of problems but in this particilar case activist groups with an agenda ending up extreme. By doing this is the only way to make their work valued and receive attention.

If you or I clean up rubbish behind someone else does it get covered in the media, receive payment or reduce the amount of litter? Of course not. What however if we took all the rubbish collected in the last six months and dump it on the family home of a relevant politician? That would get covered in the media and raise awareness of the problem. Admittedly, it is not anymore helpful than just continuing to collect, recycle and dispose of the rubbish.

You can get paid for designing a product no-one needs, manufacturing it, advertising it, selling and then desposing of it. Wow, Iraqi's now have mobile phones but no healthcare, how useful. You won't get paid for cleaning up bicycle trails, driving/riding safely, saying no to plastic bags or providing shelter and a warm meal to the homeless.

I propose we realise the "world" is never going to say thank you or recognise good deeds and the best work is unpaid and thankless. That way, everyone can do all the little things they think will help and not expect any recognition or thanks.