Living Car Free - Car Free, or TV free...

TV free!

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Some kids who need some real problems.

I'm both and happy as can be. But I do use my computer monitor to play xbox. Yeah, I spoil myself.

Thank goodness that when I was a their age that gas was cheap and there was only 2 channels to watch using the rabbit ears, the only times I lost my television as a child was either due to one of the TV's tubes overheating and blowing out, or as punishment, then I had to go outside and play and having to use my imagination. :eek:

Oh for heaven's sake :rolleyes:

Some kids who need some real problems.

:lol:
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Unless they are watching 'Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends' then their taste in cartoons is questionable and they should have their cable taken away till they learn what real comedy is.

I got to have my Battlestar Galactica, Atlantis and Dr.Who, big sci-fi geek. Plus I love bad B movies which cable is full of.

I got to have my Battlestar Galactica, Atlantis and Dr.Who, big sci-fi geek. Plus I love bad B movies which cable is full of.

I get my BSG (Battlestar Galactica) at the DVD rental shop and watch on my computer. Nice not to have to be inundated with advertising, wasting my time and telling me what I need to buy. I think advertising is my biggest beef with TV really. Shows are kinda fun if you want some brainless downtime.
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I'm both and happy as can be. But I do use my computer monitor to play xbox. Yeah, I spoil myself.

Wasting your time on pointless things like playing video games (and you are probably an adult at that) is not spoiling yourself. It's just plain stupid.

Wasting your time on pointless things like playing video games (and you are probably an adult at that) is not spoiling yourself. It's just plain stupid.

What's wrong with Video games? I am a hard core Battlefield 2142 player playing for hours on end.I absolutely love gaming!

Thank goodness that when I was a their age that gas was cheap and there was only 2 channels to watch using the rabbit ears, the only times I lost my television as a child was either due to one of the TV's tubes overheating and blowing out, or as punishment, then I had to go outside and play and having to use my imagination. :eek:

When I was a kid living on the farm, we had one TV station. No channel surfing for us! We could turn the thing on, and if we didn't like what we saw, we turned it off and went out to play outdoors.

And to be honest, I don't feel like I missed out on anything either. Most of the channels we get these days are total junk.

Wasting your time on pointless things like playing video games (and you are probably an adult at that) is not spoiling yourself. It's just plain stupid.

Wasting your time on pointless things like playing on the internet (and you are probably an adult at that) is not spoiling yourself. It's just plain stupid.

Now we are both guilty. Back on topic. :innocent:

Wasting your time on pointless things like playing video games (and you are probably an adult at that) is not spoiling yourself. It's just plain stupid.

Aren't we judgmental? :rolleyes:

Wasting your time on pointless things like playing on the internet (and you are probably an adult at that) is not spoiling yourself. It's just plain stupid.

Now we are both guilty. Back on topic. :innocent:

Good point.

If I want to watch T.V., I'll just check out the series from the Library.

Back to the topic at hand:

I think these kids need to learn a little bit about some people in the world who have some real problems due to rising fuel prices - like people who can't grow food, or who can't refrigerate any food because there isn't any energy to do it with.

We get news coverage about these girls in Salt Lake who can't watch TV, and nobody is telling America to carpool, buy local, and buy a bicycle.

Back to the topic at hand:

I think these kids need to learn a little bit about some people in the world who have some real problems due to rising fuel prices - like people who can't grow food, or who can't refrigerate any food because there isn't any energy to do it with.

We get news coverage about these girls in Salt Lake who can't watch TV, and nobody is telling America to carpool, buy local, and buy a bicycle.

We adults are at fault. I see too many over privileged and under challenged American kids. My knee jerk reaction is to think badly of the kid when the adults in their lives taught them to be that way. Its like when you run across an ill behaved dog- the first thing you think of is dealing with the dog. Later you realize how it took an irresponsible owner to create such a mess.

My initial reaction was one of resignation, but then I also realized, as misplaced as the values are, at least the kids can relate an occurance in their daily life to a current event and make a decision on it.

I run into a lot of kids who are completely oblivious-If these kids are upset that fuel prices are affecting their household budget, their parent has explained the cause and effect, and they have made a decision to say something about it, I say that is better than nothing. Now, if the parent could work on the perceived value of television in the household, that would be even better.

My initial reaction was one of resignation, but then I also realized, as misplaced as the values are, at least the kids can relate an occurance in their daily life to a current event and make a decision on it.

I run into a lot of kids who are completely oblivious-If these kids are upset that fuel prices are affecting their household budget, their parent has explained the cause and effect, and they have made a decision to say something about it, I say that is better than nothing. Now, if the parent could work on the perceived value of television in the household, that would be even better.
Yes, at least the kids are aware of something in the wider world.

I would think a bit less television and a bit more spelling practice might be in order. I also be interested to hear what type of budgeting and planning skills their parents might posses:innocent:

Aaron:)

Car-free, no prob; been there for 4 years now. TV-free, well...I happen to like movies, and the hours between sundown and bedtime need to be filled with SOMEthing! It's not like I'm surfing the www for hours every night,...wait, I do that too.

Cable? Watch about 4-5 hours a week, just cuz 'rasslin' is on cable. Hundreds of channels of complete fecal discharge otherwise. Cartoons? Where's Johnny Quest (the original!) and the Road Runner? All the Pokemon/Digimon/Spongebob/Oddparents/whatever else is just PUKE!

I rarely use the TV. I'm always arguing with my wife about how much time she spends watching TV (over 10 hours a day). I'm only keeping the cable because my son like to watch some educational programs where he actually learn stuff.

Here is a prime example of the extreme cluelessness pervading America today. Here's the lowdown:

* I am entitled to drive as much as I want cheaply.
* I am entitled to hundreds of TV channels.

To think that any kind of protesting by these lasses or anyone else is going to change things is laughable. But the scary thing here is... what are these kids going to think 10 years from now, when the energy situation will probably be much worse? Are these new young adults going to riot over not being able to drive Ford Mustangs and watch Pokemon?

There is such a feeling of entitlement in the US that you'd think we were living in a Disney movie.

"All mom's monny goes to gas." And who's fault is that? Maybe mom should get a clue, along with about 99% of the rest of the country. I often wonder how much more stable our future would be if we didn't have this wish-upon-a-star, get-something-for-nothing mentality seething from every nook and cranny here?

Not even Harry Potter will save us this time!

These kids should be happy that they have food to eat and a place to live. It's too bad that children's lives revolve almost entirely around cars and TV.

What a pathetic people we've become.

What a pathetic people we've become.

TV reception is terrible from a saddle on a high horse, but thank goodness Internet chatting/pontificting is perfectly compatable with riding that same high horse.:thumb:

Wasting your time on pointless things like playing video games (and you are probably an adult at that) is not spoiling yourself. It's just plain stupid.

What about posting on a bicycle message board? Seems like a big time waster to me.

I would think a bit less television and a bit more spelling practice might be in order. I also be interested to hear what type of budgeting and planning skills their parents might posses:innocent:

Aaron:)

Perhaps some English syntax training while you are at it? Specifically, finite verb forms.

Here is a prime example of the extreme cluelessness pervading America today. Here's the lowdown:

* I am entitled to drive as much as I want cheaply.
* I am entitled to hundreds of TV channels.

To think that any kind of protesting by these lasses or anyone else is going to change things is laughable. But the scary thing here is... what are these kids going to think 10 years from now, when the energy situation will probably be much worse? Are these new young adults going to riot over not being able to drive Ford Mustangs and watch Pokemon?

There is such a feeling of entitlement in the US that you'd think we were living in a Disney movie.

"All mom's monny goes to gas." And who's fault is that? Maybe mom should get a clue, along with about 99% of the rest of the country. I often wonder how much more stable our future would be if we didn't have this wish-upon-a-star, get-something-for-nothing mentality seething from every nook and cranny here?

Not even Harry Potter will save us this time!

These kids should be happy that they have food to eat and a place to live. It's too bad that children's lives revolve almost entirely around cars and TV.

What a pathetic people we've become.

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And regarding my first comment, while I understand that it is not the fault of the children in total, when do we start asking questions ourselves? Yes, these are small children, but all of the people here I'm sure did not have parents who were car-free and were concerned with the environment. I, for one, had parents who drove daily in their gas-heavy cars daily to their jobs, and never once taught me a thing about the environment. I went to engineering school, asked a lot of questions when I saw that a lot of things didn't seem to add up, and now I've made decisions about how I can live a healthy and fulfilling lifestyle without jeopardizing the earth for future generations. I never whined and moaned that my lifestyle or my anything was a given, or something to be expected all the time. It's important that we educate people on how things are made and where they come from if we expect to enjoy this place for much longer.

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And regarding my first comment, while I understand that it is not the fault of the children in total, when do we start asking questions ourselves? Yes, these are small children, but all of the people here I'm sure did not have parents who were car-free and were concerned with the environment. I, for one, had parents who drove daily in their gas-heavy cars daily to their jobs, and never once taught me a thing about the environment. I went to engineering school, asked a lot of questions when I saw that a lot of things didn't seem to add up, and now I've made decisions about how I can live a healthy and fulfilling lifestyle without jeopardizing the earth for future generations. I never whined and moaned that my lifestyle or my anything was a given, or something to be expected all the time. It's important that we educate people on how things are made and where they come from if we expect to enjoy this place for much longer.

We Americans are entitled, why?, well who does the world call when they are in trouble? America! We have been saving the worlds ass since World war II, so hell yeah were entitled!

Cable? Watch about 4-5 hours a week, just cuz 'rasslin' is on cable. Hundreds of channels of complete fecal discharge otherwise. Cartoons? Where's Johnny Quest (the original!) and the Road Runner? All the Pokemon/Digimon/Spongebob/Oddparents/whatever else is just PUKE!

If you've every watched cartoons recently, those last ones you listed would probably considered good compared to some of the crap out there now...

About the only time I regularly watch TV is when the Simpsons is on, and if there is something good on before that, I might watch it too. The only other stuff I watch is either: A. Random stuff on Sci-Fi (My Mom loves that channel, so pretty much if Fox isn't on, Sci-Fi is.) B. Re-runs of older shows (George Lopez, Home Improvement, and the Cosby show are what we usually watch) C. The News or Weather if something interesting is happening.

TV reception is terrible from a saddle on a high horse,

Technically, TV reception is improved by being on a high horse. :rolleyes: There are fewer things to block the signal and you can receive signals from farther away.

TV sux anyway... nothing but freakin advertisements. 2min. of movie showing followed by a 5 min. ad interruption. And you actually have to pay to watch those stupid ad's with a cable or satellite bill? ********!

On the other hand... WTTW in HD over local Antenna is a gem.

have a car (4 year old 4 cylinder civic--40 thousand miles on it, mainly to new hampshire for hiking), no computer (i'm at work), no tv. but i do like beer.

Cable? Watch about 4-5 hours a week, just cuz 'rasslin' is on cable. Hundreds of channels of complete fecal discharge otherwise. Cartoons? Where's Johnny Quest (the original!) and the Road Runner? All the Pokemon/Digimon/Spongebob/Oddparents/whatever else is just PUKE!

I've learned more spanish from Dora, Diego, and Piggly-Wiggly on Univision than from any other source these programs are vastly speeding up my language aquisition. But yes I do miss the old WB classics. Is it possible to get the Journey to the Center of the Earth cartoons on DVD? Cause I'm gonna be pissed when the new movie ruins my memory of it.

I think it's better to be cable TV free than car free. Movies are fine, but cable is just awful. I would rather own a car and go out and do something than sit and watch the TV.

And using the internet is not the same as watching TV.

We Americans are entitled, why?, well who does the world call when they are in trouble? America! We have been saving the worlds ass since World war II, so hell yeah were entitled!

The world called on us to help with the global warming problem and we told them to get lost. The world called on us to not invade Iraq and we told them to get lost.
Aren't there any historians on this list?

TV sux anyway... nothing but freakin advertisements....


... for cars.

yes I do miss the old WB classics. Is it possible to get the Journey to the Center of the Earth cartoons on DVD? Cause I'm gonna be pissed when the new movie ruins my memory of it.

The old 'Journey' cartoons...are they the ones with Lars, blond, stocky, awful Scandanavian accent, saying "In my country, I vas champion (whatever he did five seconds before that)!"? OMG, I never missed that silliness! I was easy to entertain back then....

The world called on us to help with the global warming problem and we told them to get lost. The world called on us to not invade Iraq and we told them to get lost.
Aren't there any historians on this list?

+1 :lol:

Perhaps some English syntax training while you are at it? Specifically, finite verb forms.

Typos, my friend, typos...

I think these kids are cute. They seem young enough to be deluded about how the world works. If they were 18 and complaining it would be different, but these girls are what...9 and 7?
I watched a ton of television when I was a chubby kid growing up, and now I love to ride my bike everywhere and I've yet to even get a driver's license, let alone own a car.
I agree that there are other, larger problems facing the world right now (well, always, actually) but these are suburban kids. Let them worry about the small stuff for a few more years.