Classic & Vintage - Bianchi differences through the years

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SD Fixed
01-08-04, 09:30 AM
Anyone here know the specific differences between an early 80's Bianchi (italian made) and a late 80's Bianchi (japanese made)? Both frames are lugged, but what else?
tommy2pants
01-08-04, 09:48 AM
Anyone here know the specific differences between an early 80's Bianchi (italian made) and a late 80's Bianchi (japanese made)? Both frames are lugged, but what else?The italian one likely have Italian BB threading and the oriental ones english.All current Bianchis are English BB threading. Oriental ones likely used JIS standard HS, and the italian ones ISO. Oriental components were common on one, and Campy or other european stuff on the other.The Italian ones most likely used Columbus tubing, and the Japanese ones Tange or something else sourced in the orient.
demoncyclist
01-08-04, 10:24 AM
You also have to remember that the Reparto Corse bikes were, and still are, made in Italy.
SD Fixed
01-08-04, 10:42 AM
Both are the same exact size to the CM.
SD Fixed
01-08-04, 10:43 AM
Japanese frame
SD Fixed
01-08-04, 10:44 AM
Italian
SD Fixed
01-08-04, 10:45 AM
undershot japanese frame
SD Fixed
01-08-04, 10:46 AM
undershot italian frame (lousy shot isn't it?)
SD Fixed
01-08-04, 10:48 AM
head tube japanese
SD Fixed
01-08-04, 10:48 AM
head tube italian
SD Fixed
01-08-04, 10:49 AM
seat post japanese
SD Fixed
01-08-04, 10:50 AM
seat post italian
SD Fixed
01-08-04, 10:51 AM
japanese brake mount
SD Fixed
01-08-04, 10:52 AM
rear brake italian
SD Fixed
01-08-04, 10:52 AM
Italian rear drop outs
SD Fixed
01-08-04, 10:55 AM
rear drop outs japanese..
Though both are marked "bianchi"
SD Fixed
01-08-04, 10:58 AM
It's pretty interesting to look at them side by side, at least to me. I can't comment on ride because I'm attempting to salvage the red (italian), but if it doesn't hold, I'll be on the japanese one soon. The Japanese one is somewhat of a loaner until I figure out if I need it based upon the red's condition.
The japanese one had Biopace cranks on it when I picked it up (removed by the seller, I didn't need them, couldn't use them).. Not sure if it was stock.
Interesting question, one would think that the
japanese frames would have been built to specifications
coming from Bianchi Italy. For the most part the better
Bianchi's were made in Italy, while the more entry level bikes were made in japan. I'd be very surprized tho if the
rides were significantly different. I wonder if this has been discussed on Classic rendezvous? I might check the
archives and see what I can find out.
marty
If the geometries and lugs are the same, and if both frames are made out of high-grade moly steel (either CrMO or MnMo), they will probably ride, corner, climb, and sprint almost identically. I have been told by a bicycling metallurgist that the Tange Prestige Plus CrMo tubing on my Schwinn is probably better than Columbus tubing of the same vintage (1988).
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