Mountain Biking - Arguably the best deal on MTB wheels today.
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01-09-04, 11:51 AM
I got a set of mavic Cross Land wheels in order to put the disc brakes on my new EPIC and I think these are really good wheels at what may be the best price for the performance around.
The wheelset was 229.00 at my LBS for disc ready, tubeless (if you want to run them, I don't) and strong wheelset. To run tubes you remove the plastic seal strip and replace with rim tape. I have been riding them now for about three weeks and love em. I'd love a set of Crossmax SL's but for less than a third the price these are fine by me. The weight difference is about 400 grams total.
I'd equate these wheels to be basically on par with Cosmos for the road, good construction for a great price.
I've been considering a new wheelset myself. Mine are just too heavy for my tastes. I long for the WHIRRRRRRRRRRR of a set of smooth Chris Kings, but alas, I cannot justify spending two car payments on a set of wheels. Or can I?
01-09-04, 06:54 PM
When you figure I paid less for this whole wheelset than just the cost of a single chris king rear hub it makes you wonder just how badly we are getting ripped off.
Don't get me wrong, quality is great but I do not think the price is proportional to the value when it is that exhorbitant.
01-09-04, 07:01 PM
Another great thing about em is at first glance they look almost like the 850.00 model. Until you see the stainless steel round spokes.
But they look really goooood for the price.
Was it like a closeout deal or something Sam? And how much does it weigh?
Just admit you love the sexy WHIZZZZZZZZZZZZ of the Chris King hubs :D
01-09-04, 07:53 PM
Nope, regular price.And I do like chris king hubs but not on my budget just yet.
That's the only really heavy part of my bike is my wheelset. Compared to the non-disc, non-tubeless set of XTR hubs and Mavic 517s I used to ride, these wheels are heavy as hell. I really feel it when accelerating. Recently I've been looking for some lightweight wheels but most of the lightweight tubeless wheels are seriously expensive.
01-09-04, 08:05 PM
I do not know the actual weight but will try to find out. I just know they are lighter than the ones that came on my epic. Not tremendously but every little bit counts out on the wheel.
Here is the mavic web page. 970 front 1100 rear.
01-10-04, 02:30 PM
I just got a set of Mavic CrossRides for my Trek 4300 and they're sweet! I think this model was replaced by the CrossLands, if I'm not mistaken. The difference in quality between these wheels and the OEM wheels they replaced is like night and day -- which I suppose is why they cost about as much as the whole bike originally did. :)
01-10-04, 03:06 PM
Hey Grendel, do you have any idea what the weight difference is for the wheels that came on your bike and the crossrides? I've got a 4500 that I'm thinking of replacing the wheels on, but I can't find any information on how much they weigh and I don't have a good scale to find out. I can't afford to shell out the money if I'm not saving at least a few hundred grams while maintaining similar durability.
01-10-04, 06:23 PM
Unfortunately I don't have a accurate enough scale to weigh the wheels, but I can tell you just from holding an old wheel and a new wheel that there was quite a difference. The main reason I upgraded was that the cheap hubs just didn't hold up -- the cones were badly pitted and the hubs were noisy. I didn't have much luck finding replacement parts, so I used the excuse to upgrade.
crosslink would be another low-cost but lightweight and decent wheel upgrade.
01-11-04, 12:05 PM
A couple of years ago I Bought a pair of Crossrides. Absolutely superb set of wheels --Except for the Freehub, Perfect strong, light wheels, but 2 repairs on the freehub and I still do not use the damn things, Suddenly having a freewheel in both directions is not nice. Shimano XT coupled to a top quality rim are just as light, are just as good, and cheaper. Wheels only last so many miles before they need replacing, or severe maintenance. Although I cannot recommend cheap wheels, I can't see the point in paying over the odds for something that is no better than the good quality wheels that I am using.
Perhaps I have been unlucky in the one set of "Quality" wheels that I have bought, but I have not been "Unlucky" in the 7 pairs of shimano hubs to mavic rims, bought over the past 5 years.
01-11-04, 04:07 PM
I looked into buying XTshimano disc hubs, mavic x317 rim and some stainlees spokes spokes and having one bulit and the finished wheel would have cost me more than this complete set. the price fo it ended up at about 190.00 complete, I've ridden mavics for years with no problems in harsh conditions so I think you did indeed get unlucky.
I'm unimpressed with my XT disc hubs. They're heavy and I've had to rebuild them even though I don't do any heavy riding. I bent an axle and busted out all the pawls somehow. I used to have a set of older XTR hubs years ago that were smooth as hell even after YEARS of riding. I just think Shimano's quality has gone to hell. I've had nothing but good luck with Mavic rims though. I definitely trust them.
Sorry for bringing this back from the dead buuuutttt...
after numberous problems with my factory wheels (parallax hubs, dt1.8 spokes, CR18s) I'm looking for some new wheels. The Crosslands caught my eye, while they are heavier than I want, I figure I could get away with going tubless with my Python AirLites with Stans slime on these wheels, thus saving about 200g of tube weight. Someone on MTBR did this and said it worked great.
Sam - (if you read this!) how are the Crosslands holding up? Do you still recommend them? Thanks!
07-10-04, 04:23 PM
I used to build my own 'custom' wheelsets to my liking. But these days it's a heck of a lot cheaper to just go out and buy a pre-built set on special. I'll ride them for a couple hundred miles or so and then simply check and re-tention the spokes if needed.
Geez.....I didn't realize this was an old thread...
07-11-04, 05:10 PM
You might be able to get away with calling them the best XC wheels but not MTB wheels. They'd suck on a DH or DJ bike.
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