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The Historian
06-30-08, 12:36 AM
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Well, I finally felt recovered enough from my rib fracture three and a half weeks ago to attempt my first substantial ride. This afternoon at 4:30 PM, I met Bike Forums poster "derecola" for a 15 mile ride. We started from the trailhead in Pottstown's scenic but postage-stamp sized Riverfront Park, and rode the Schuylkill River Trail about six or seven miles to near Birdsboro, and then turned back.

Chris, to use his real name, and I hit it off immediately. He's new to serious cycling, and has an infectious enthusiasm. He reminded me why it's fun to ride with other people. Also, I'd never been as far north on the trail as we went, so I was happy to have fresh ground under my tires. Even if it was wet gravel.

Speaking of which, I held up pretty well. Aside from a slight twinge now and then, my rib felt OK on the ride, and I've had no stiffness or soreness since I got back hours ago. I had a little fatigue in my right shoulder from scoliosis, but that's normal for me. I still had some soreness in the heels of my palms - I landed on my hands when I fell back in Cumberland - but I suspect that will eventually go away.

And, now, some more photos. My apologies for the quality - this is my buggy camera that I landed on when I crashed:

Chris and his bike at the turn around point:

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Chris again on the bridge spanning the Schuylkill River:

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Schuylkill River:

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Trail approaching Birdsboro:

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Matawany Creek in Riverfront Park, taken from the pedestrian bridge:

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Trail as it winds through Riverfront Park:

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Hill-Pumper
06-30-08, 12:42 AM
Looks like a nice place to ride. I'm glad you are back at it. I have had a rib injury myself and know how painful they are. Mine seemed like it took forever to heal. Also glad you were able to meet up with a board member, its always nice to have someone else to ride with.

The Historian
06-30-08, 12:51 AM
More photos. Rocks at the confluence of the Matawany Creek and Schuylkill River:

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A photo of the river taken only a couple of feet from those rocks:

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PA Route 100 bridge reflected in the Schuylkill River:

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No comment:

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Roark posing on the bridge over the Schuylkill:

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Another view of the river from the bridge:

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You can barely make it out in the photo, but that's a snake sunning itself on the bridge support below.

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The Historian
06-30-08, 01:00 AM
Looks like a nice place to ride. I'm glad you are back at it. I have had a rib injury myself and know how painful they are. Mine seemed like it took forever to heal. Also glad you were able to meet up with a board member, its always nice to have someone else to ride with.

Thank you. I'm not quite healed yet, and I'm going to take it easy for a while, but at least I'm riding again. Chris and I have made arrangements to ride again next Sunday. I'm sure I'll be out during the week as well.

JosephPaul86
06-30-08, 01:44 AM
I wish we had anything similar to that in the Houston area. Only trail nearby me is alligator and mosquito infested and muddy water in the Brazos.


Keep up with the riding, I hope one day I can meet a BF member and go for a ride.

neilfein
06-30-08, 02:30 AM
Glad to hear you're doing well. That's an awesome fishy bike rack!

wayne pattee
06-30-08, 04:20 AM
Nice pictures Neil. Glad to hear you're feeling better.

keracer
06-30-08, 06:24 AM
Nice Pictures. Makes me wish they would get more sections of the Schuylkill River Trail done up in this area.

Mazama
06-30-08, 07:00 AM
Good to see you are back in the game. Thanks for the beautiful photos.

bdinger
06-30-08, 09:18 AM
Welcome back, and what a way to get back in! Here's hoping that you continue to heal well and enjoy many, many more miles.

racethenation
06-30-08, 09:49 AM
Congratualtions on getting back on the bike. I can't imagine being off of the bike for three weeks now. :twitchy:

The Historian
06-30-08, 09:53 AM
Nice Pictures. Makes me wish they would get more sections of the Schuylkill River Trail done up in this area.

I'd be happy if Chester County could ever get its act together and construct its share of the trail. At the moment the trail ends in Mont Clare and resumes in Pottstown. Meanwhile, Phoenixville, East Vincent Township, Spring City, and suburbs await the trail coming through. It would make my commute so much easier.

The Historian
06-30-08, 09:54 AM
Congratualtions on getting back on the bike. I can't imagine being off of the bike for three weeks now. :twitchy:

It's one day at a time. I woke up with some soreness in the rib cage, and oddly enough, the left shoulder. So no riding today. I'll try again tomorrow.

derecola
06-30-08, 10:31 AM
I had a lot of fun riding with Neal he is a ca rector.I learned a lot on the ride.lets see how many other members we can get together for next Sundays ride.

The Historian
06-30-08, 10:50 AM
I had a lot of fun riding with Neal he is a ca rector.I learned a lot on the ride.lets see how many other members we can get together for next Sundays ride.

4:00 PM Sunday, Riverfront Park, Pottstown, PA.

Tom Stormcrowe
06-30-08, 10:55 AM
Neil, good to see you out and about! Yeah, that shoulder pain is likely from you favoring the side right now. It's pretty normal. I know how you feel, Bro! Stay wit it and things will get easier again. ;)

ctoddrun
06-30-08, 12:06 PM
Glad to see you back in the game, Neil... But would you please STOP with the goshdarn photos of great scenery? I'm rapidly approaching my annual "what in the name of all that is Holy am I doing in Texas" fit (happens around Aug 1st every year,) and you are not helping!:D Seriously, that's some sweet terrain and some great pics, even with a buggy camera...

-holiday76
06-30-08, 12:34 PM
good to see you're riding again. That looks like a nice trail, I'll have to check it out.

vXhanz
06-30-08, 05:10 PM
Welcome back, glad you are feeling better. Looks like you passed some nice fishing spots too :)

Pinyon
06-30-08, 05:15 PM
Glad to hear that you are back out there, and that the ribs held out so well. Pennyslvania is so GREEN! I used to live there, and miss the trees. It looked like a lovely ride.

Keep mashing those pedals!

keracer
06-30-08, 06:58 PM
I'd be happy if Chester County could ever get its act together and construct its share of the trail. At the moment the trail ends in Mont Clare and resumes in Pottstown. Meanwhile, Phoenixville, East Vincent Township, Spring City, and suburbs await the trail coming through. It would make my commute so much easier.


From what I have seen online, the trail is supposed to start up here in the Pottsville area, and run down to Philly? So far they have about 1 mile or so done right out the road from my house. And there is a section about 7 miles long from Auburn to Hamburg. Not sure of the Hamburg end, but the Auburn trailhead isn't much, not much parking.

The Historian
07-01-08, 12:40 AM
Glad to see you back in the game, Neil... But would you please STOP with the goshdarn photos of great scenery? I'm rapidly approaching my annual "what in the name of all that is Holy am I doing in Texas" fit (happens around Aug 1st every year,) and you are not helping!:D Seriously, that's some sweet terrain and some great pics, even with a buggy camera...

I feel mean spirited. Take this:

Matawany Creek meets Schuylkill River:

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Roark chilling while I walk on the pedestrian bridge over the Matawany:

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Another shot of the trail:

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Wogsterca
07-01-08, 06:44 AM
Glad to see you back in the game, Neil... But would you please STOP with the goshdarn photos of great scenery? I'm rapidly approaching my annual "what in the name of all that is Holy am I doing in Texas" fit (happens around Aug 1st every year,) and you are not helping!:D Seriously, that's some sweet terrain and some great pics, even with a buggy camera...


I'm not happy with his photos either, but for a different reason, I have not had my camera and bike out together this year, because the weather here has been so awful, either it's been raining or high winds. I think we had like 20 days in June where it rained, and 40km/h+ winds the rest of the time.....

The Historian
07-01-08, 07:35 AM
From what I have seen online, the trail is supposed to start up here in the Pottsville area, and run down to Philly? So far they have about 1 mile or so done right out the road from my house. And there is a section about 7 miles long from Auburn to Hamburg. Not sure of the Hamburg end, but the Auburn trailhead isn't much, not much parking.

The entire trail is supposed to run from the Delaware River at Philadelphia to Pottsville. In theory one could ride a century on the trail between those two cities. As it stands, the trail runs from 25 miles from Philadelphia, a few blocks short of the Delaware, to Mont Clare, at the border of Montgomery County. You must then cross the river on roads into Phoenixville, picking up a short trail in town. From there you use local roads with a LOT of rollers to reach Pottstown and Riverfront Park. From there you have about ten miles of trail to Birdsboro. At the Berks County line the trail surface changes from asphalt to gravel. Another few miles on roads brings you to the next trailhead as the trail continues into Reading, PA. From Reading there is a greenway to ride, but the trail itself stops until it reaches you in Leesport.

It's maddening waiting for this to be finished, but if Chester, Berks, and Schuylkill Counties can get it done, we could have a trail as wonderful as our friends in Western PA have in the Great Allegheny Passage. The GAP is a wonderful achievement, serving as both a means to see the natural wonders of the region and as an experience in its own right. Imagine the economic benefits for the region! Diners, bike shops, B & B and hotels, tour operators and outfitters...... plus reducing traffic on local roads as people use the trail to commute, as I do.

Sorry for the rant, but seeing the GAP turned me into a trail advocate.

Tom Stormcrowe
07-01-08, 07:43 AM
Sorry for the rant, but seeing the GAP turned me into a trail advocate.

That's not a rant, Niel. ;) Use that passion to advocate for it publicly. Use your images, etc, as well as your writing skills to submit some articles to the local papers.......you might just get them published, you know.

natbla
07-01-08, 08:05 AM
It's maddening waiting for this to be finished, but if Chester, Berks, and Schuylkill Counties can get it done, we could have a trail as wonderful as our friends in Western PA have in the Great Allegheny Passage. The GAP is a wonderful achievement, serving as both a means to see the natural wonders of the region and as an experience in its own right. Imagine the economic benefits for the region! Diners, bike shops, B & B and hotels, tour operators and outfitters...... plus reducing traffic on local roads as people use the trail to commute, as I do.

Sorry for the rant, but seeing the GAP turned me into a trail advocate.

As a bit of perspective, it took almost 20 years to get the GAP finished with the Maryland section only coming on line fully roughly 3 years ago. The Maryland component was first started in 1998 I think and real progress didn't start until 2001 or 2002 with work on the tunnels.

The Historian
07-01-08, 08:36 AM
As a bit of perspective, it took almost 20 years to get the GAP finished with the Maryland section only coming on line fully roughly 3 years ago. The Maryland component was first started in 1998 I think and real progress didn't start until 2001 or 2002 with work on the tunnels.

Understood, but the SRT doesn't have the railway bridges and tunnels to deal with (pity - I liked those on the Passage), so perhaps it should be easier. As an example of how much can get done when the people get behind it, the 20 mile Perkiomen Trail, like the Passage a gravel rail trail, was finished in less than three years, including legal disputes. Montgomery County, PA, adopted an aggressive open space and trail program in the late 1990s and early 2000s, and while subsequent administrations have slowed down progress, already this year we've seen the SRT extended to Mont Clare, the SRT realigned and widened at Norristown, an addition made to the Cross County Trail, and work commence on restoring the Schuylkill Canal towpath.

bautieri
07-01-08, 08:46 AM
Glad to see that your out and doing well, congratulations on the ride!

epcolt
07-01-08, 09:52 PM
Trails are nice. I can do a metric on the Monriver trail here in north central WV. Good not to have to deal with cars except at crossroads.

keracer
07-01-08, 10:07 PM
I'm not sure what Agencies if any are involved in these trails. But here in Schuylkill County, there was little to no press covering the sections we do have. So people didn't realize what was happening. But then again, our County officials are too busy chasing their tails over pipe dreams.

guybierhaus
07-01-08, 11:13 PM
4 pm next Sunday...is that like 4 pm this Sunday, as in July 6th? If I'm not hurting from Saturday's planned ride I may join you all.

FYI: After you spend a few years with Berks County genealogy and history, you will learn where, what and how to spell Manatawny; Maxatawny; and Monocacy. And of course it's not in Berks, but suspect the same tribe came up with Manayunk.

If you had tried the SRT about 4 weeks ago, you would have been faced with a 30" wide trail from the bridge across Schuylkill River and west. You turned around at Monocacy Road. The section you missed, the new stone was too soft last week, thought I was riding on the beach. They did complete a new section just as you enter Birdsboro and behind the little league ballpark. Then it's road for three miles to Thun Trail portion of SRT.

And yes, glad to see your back on the bike Neil. And you may want to keep the rubber side down for a few more weeks.

natbla
07-02-08, 07:30 AM
Understood, but the SRT doesn't have the railway bridges and tunnels to deal with (pity - I liked those on the Passage), so perhaps it should be easier. As an example of how much can get done when the people get behind it, the 20 mile Perkiomen Trail, like the Passage a gravel rail trail, was finished in less than three years, including legal disputes. Montgomery County, PA, adopted an aggressive open space and trail program in the late 1990s and early 2000s, and while subsequent administrations have slowed down progress, already this year we've seen the SRT extended to Mont Clare, the SRT realigned and widened at Norristown, an addition made to the Cross County Trail, and work commence on restoring the Schuylkill Canal towpath.

the hold ups were more political than funding (though the political held up funding requests). Just before the final stretch in MD opened the County Commissioners almost veto'd the opening due to some erroneous information related to potential liability associated with the last tunnel (the one where train and ride share the tunnel). They considered diverting the riders onto Cash Valley road instead of allowing the riders through the tunnel. This after the tunnel was already finished and people were already using the section of trail (there was some gravel work still needed in one area). This lack of leadership cost the project a $150K grant that ran out of time and had to be returned. Luckily the Governor at that time wanted to reward the area for votin for him and the grant was reinstated. but still, the finishing of the last section of trail and the opening was held up for over a year by the whole process.

freemti
07-02-08, 03:56 PM
As a bit of perspective, it took almost 20 years to get the GAP finished with the Maryland section only coming on line fully roughly 3 years ago. The Maryland component was first started in 1998 I think and real progress didn't start until 2001 or 2002 with work on the tunnels.

Yep, I've seen glaciers recede quicker than local government when it comes to trails. Chester county itself is pretty bad in particular and some of the townships affected are equally so. Chester county got burned pretty bad because the debacle surrounding the Chester County Trail some years ago and are only beginning to get that project back on track (sic) but even then we're talking many years before significant progress would be seen even on that relatively short trail.

Its a crying shame that most of us reading this will be dead before the true vision of some of these trails will be realized. Its really a shame because I'd like the chance to ride them....