Approx 40mi, approx 16.5-17mph avg pace. Who's interested?

Location & Time: RBM Richardson @ 8am

There is two groups leaving from RBM Richardson Friday morning. One will be doing about 17mph pace, other is going to be 19-20 most likely. You've been warned. ;)

The morning of July 4th, I'll be riding in a parade in Arlington at about 2 mph.

Ill be there. Cuda's ride, not the parade.

17mph?
what about 14avg?

robot, if you can find some others wanting to do 14avg, go for it. :)

17's fast for an average- for me anyway.
i like to ride and just cruise.

I like 14, too.

If I bought my Fuel, I'd have to have 14, ha.

Was this the morning, by the way?

first post updated with information. The Plano Bicycle Association will have 2 or 3 groups leaving from the parking lot of RBM at 8am on Friday morning. There will be the fast group (19-20+mph for 57mi most likely), and the "Distance Builder" group(s). If there are two groups, then there will likely be a 40ish @ 16-16.5 and a 50ish @ 17-17.5, if there is but one group, well, stay tuned.

For anyone considering a slower group, RBM is also a good place to start / end a trip down to white rock lake. From RBM down to the lake and back with one lap around the lake will give you about 35mi. I can make a route map on mapmyride for anyone who wants to head that up.

Depending on family commitments, I am game for a ride, but probably at the 14 speed as I will be riding fixed gear

For anyone wanting to do a slow (and/or solo) ride down to white rock, here's the best route down to the trail head: http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/tx/dallas/237751499891

The 'Distance Builder' group route yet to be determined. Likely will be the 38 RBM route, an out-and-back route.

I'm into the <16 ride to WRL. Gather at 8am, leave after the cheetahs and gazelles? Haven't printed up or even had a chance to check out Jon's route, but will today. Bringing my Univega. And half-frozen camelback!

Have checked out Cuda's route for the solo/slow ride to WRL from RBM. It looks really good! So I'll be there in the Ayem.

Last time I was down to the trail head, the park there was closed. There's a couple of different ways around, Hillcrest probably the best and easiest way, and a 8am on a holiday there won't be much traffic around there. Just FYI if you get down there and its all fenced off still.

Hmm...now I can login....

WRL trail is open from the parking lot to the lake. In good condition, too. I'll be at RBM tomorrow.

I rode White Rock Creek/ Lake Trail last Sunday afternoon. The trail has been open from Valley View down to 635 for a while, although there were "closed" sigsn on it- it was clear, and everyone rode through anyway. But those "closed" signs are now gone. There were 2 spots in that stretch with minor construction, so don't whoop up too much speed. Rest of the way down to and around the lake was in good shape. A lot of the trail that was closed on the west side of the lake is now usable, with people on it, although there was a barricade still up. But they still had one lane of the road as a trail, too, so it's in great shape for riding. Y'all enjoy.

PS, Now that I think about it, there were a few spots down south of 635 where the side of the sidewalk was busted off- beware as you're riding.

jim10040, I'll join you if you don't mind on the slower ride, especially if you have the maps etc.

once you get on meandering way it's hard to get lost. just make the right on Peyton, to till it dead ends and you're at the trail head. From there just follow the trail. Jim's been down there a couple times it sounds so you'll be in good hands. I'll be there, riding over from my apartment. Look for me in my Texas Bike Forums jersey on the red Serotta.

cant decide whether to ride my surly steamroller 48x19
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/surly/images/steamroller600.jpg

or my

khs aero track 48x16
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/9488/craigslist001xo1.jpg

man, that khs is sexxxy!
and a 48x16 gear would probably feel better for a longer ride. that's my gearing and it's pretty comfy.
i would love to go, but we're having a garage sale in the morning at 8am.
would the slower group be willing to meet on sunday morning at rbm?!
i wanna meet some people and ride!

i will probably be there for the slow ride depending on how the cold I am fighting is doing in the AM. Might also be available for a Sunday ride happyrobot, et. al.

Most likely gonna be in BF Texas jersey and on the Falcon.

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r162/jsharr/Falcon/bikes004.jpg

I'd be game for a slow ride on Saturday morning myself, busy Friday and Sunday.

Sorry about missing this one. Woke up late. Took the boys for a ride instead. Pulling a trailer is not fun. Anyone doing a ride on Sunday?

Well, made it back from the parade. The 2 mph hour figure was apparently overly optimistic, and while riding, one of the pedals stripped out of the crank arm on my unicycle. Not good. Grrrr. Otherwise was a fun day.

Wish the DB group's 17mph average had been 'optimistic', instead it was a bit on the low side. At the rest stop Tailchaser had us running an 18+ average. I slowed down a bit on the way back, but I think I finished with above a 17.5 mph average.

Jeff, I'm riding Sunday, but it's going to be a 50mi ride. Not sure what my plans for tomorrow are.

Wow, people still riding at White Rock lake. I rode many, many laps there in the late 70's while in college, before moving to San Diego in 1980. You guys are tough to ride in the heat...after a few years in San Diego I came back and did the Fourth of July Crit in Highland Park (around the big Presbeyterian Church) and the heat was amazing. I suppose Hwy 544, and 121 are now suburbs.

Wow, people still riding at White Rock lake. I rode many, many laps there in the late 70's while in college, before moving to San Diego in 1980. You guys are tough to ride in the heat...after a few years in San Diego I came back and did the Fourth of July Crit in Highland Park (around the big Presbeyterian Church) and the heat was amazing. I suppose Hwy 544, and 121 are now suburbs.

Yup. Both are no longer cyclist friendly by any means. 544 not so bad (in places) as 121 though. 121 is now a major highway.

I've never ridden laps (ie, multiple laps) around WRL, but normally ride down from 635 on the White Rock Creek Trail- is it newer than the WRL trails? Going from 635 is about 22 or 23 miles round trip.

There are some tricks to the heat. Part of it is being accustomed to it in the first place, and if you move off and back, you may not be. Part of it is being thin and not "well insulated". Being young probably helps, too. Slowing down some helps, too; riding a crit would be a lot different from cruising around the lake.

On Hwy 121- not sure. It's been re-routed, and the new part is 4-lane or wider highway. But the older route may still be there. I don't live or ride up that way.

When we lived in Euless, we'd go up 121 to Frisco and north to Gunter. Frisco was a sleepy little town. There was a big car dealership where 121 and 289 crossed. Last time I went through there, I think that area was a mall, and the only building I recognized in the whole town was the Staley Steel building out north on 289. It used to on the outskirts of town.

Hey Guys...Stats on the Slow Ride...I took almost 3 hours to do it, 34.7 mi from RBM to around WRL, 12.2 avg. The route is really easy, there are still some rough spots on the WRL trail. It Was Hot. Yeah, the thermometer on the bike computer was in the sun, but I started looking at it when it said 99, and it read 104 most of the rest of the time. I emptied out my 100 oz camelback. Naturally, since it was a holiday Ye Olde Butcher Shop was closed, and I had to make do with Braums. Oh Well.

Sunday AM about 8-9 (let's agree on a time), is a go for me. I liked that ride.

Earlier the better in my book. I'll take a 7am ride over an 8am ride this time of year. I rode to and from the start so my stats are a bit skewed but I had: 38.5mi, 17.6 pace. I would have had a 17.8+ had I not had a slow 3 miles back to the apartment after splitting off from the group. There was a lot of traffic with parades and such going on along my route.

LSR has a Sunday ride tomorrow, I think in conjuncton with PBA. It's a populaire, so no need to be a member. It should be a conversational pace, and there will likely be multiple groups for whatever speeds you like.

It starts at 8 am from a Tom Thumb on Alma and Hedgecoxe in Plano. Here's the cue sheet: http://lonestarrandon.tripod.com/cue_sheets/Marko%20Polo%20Cue%20Sheet.pdf

Steve

hey jim, i showed up at rbm yesterday at 8:50am and couldn't find anyone wanting to do a slow ride.
so, i just rode by myself.

Just got back from a loop around the lake- just rode from my house down there, around the lake and back. Left about 4:00 PM. I figured the heat would be terrible, but it didn't really seem that bad, a bit breezy, occasional cloud over the sun. Averaged 12.9 mph on 25.9 miles per my odometer.

Wish the DB group's 17mph average had been 'optimistic', instead it was a bit on the low side. At the rest stop Tailchaser had us running an 18+ average. I slowed down a bit on the way back, but I think I finished with above a 17.5 mph average.

Jeff, I'm riding Sunday, but it's going to be a 50mi ride. Not sure what my plans for tomorrow are.Quitcher whinin! :-) PBA holiday rides traditionally run 2+ mph faster than advertised. It's the PBA Way!

Memorable moment during the ride...

Me: There's no crying in baseball.
Them: This isn't baseball.
Me: Exactly.

Quitcher whinin! :-) PBA holiday rides traditionally run 2+ mph faster than advertised. It's the PBA Way!


Cuda - don't act like the Labor Day ride last fall wasn't like a 19.5 avg - and was advertised as what, a 17-18? The funny thing is that the "fast" ride ended up about the same average, but took over an hour longer after several mechanicals and a significant leg cramp by our fearless leader.

Cuda - don't act like the Labor Day ride last fall wasn't like a 19.5 avg - and was advertised as what, a 17-18? The funny thing is that the "fast" ride ended up about the same average, but took over an hour longer after several mechanicals and a significant leg cramp by our fearless leader.An hour??? Amanda and I rode home, showered, and then drove down to casa di Doc where we made ourselves at home for an hour before anyone else showed up. And we REALLY did say "come around back" when people rang the bell.

:lol: Yeah, labor day ride last year was amazing fast. Not sure what sort of shape I'm going to be in for the ride this labor day.

As far as the 4th july ride, it was fast, nothing I couldn't handle on most days. Bit more than I was planning for the start of the 3 day weekend. It's great that you're back on the bike dude, hope to be able to hang on with you on DB1 the next couple weeks leading up to my surgery in August. And since I don't want to get dropped or left at a rest stop, I won't say anything about your wrenching skills on your wife's bike. ;)

Here's photos and a short write up of my weekend's worth of riding:

great 3 days of riding over the Holiday weekend. Started off with a 38mi ride on the Serotta on Friday the 4th. It was the first ride back for BF member Tailchaser, who was leading. 3 weeks off the bike did nothing to slow him down! Saturday's ride was with my local club, their "Distance Builder" ride, another 45mi on the Serotta. I've been running my Fulcrum 5 Evolution wheels on it the last couple weeks since my Campy / Mavic Open Pro wheels have had a noise in the rear that I want to have looked at before I put many miles on it. Not quite as nice of a ride as the 3x standard wheels, but pretty darn quick when I need to lay down the power. Hit a max speed of 39mph sprinting to the front of the group to inform them of a mechanical problem in the back of the group at one point.

Today's ride was a memorial ride for a member of the club that passed away this past New Year's. His birthday would have been tomorrow. There were two rides, a full century (yeah right, not after the last two days) and a half century. The target pace was well within what I enjoy riding the Gazelle at, so off on the white/blue Gazelle AB-Frame I went this morning. Felt really great on the bike today. Even with the south / south-west winds on the second half of the ride, I felt pretty strong.

http://jonpfischer.com/thecuda/photos/upload/08RidePhotos/tn_IMG_1158.jpg
Winding through a neighborhood on Friday.

http://jonpfischer.com/thecuda/photos/upload/08RidePhotos/tn_IMG_1160.jpg
Headed home after Friday's ride, got passed by these guys. Lots of local parades and such organizing about that same time.

http://jonpfischer.com/thecuda/photos/upload/08RidePhotos/tn_IMG_1163.jpg
Saturday's ride. This nearing the half way point as we headed back south from Prosper, Tx back into McKinney. The blue jersey on the second rider up is a Texas BikeForums jersey (and a BF's member wearing it).

http://jonpfischer.com/thecuda/photos/upload/08RidePhotos/tn_IMG_1164.jpg
Two BF's members can be seen in this photo. The Texas and the OU jersey.

http://jonpfischer.com/thecuda/photos/upload/08RidePhotos/tn_IMG_1171.jpg
Today (Sunday)'s ride. Headed north to Princeton, Tx. I was happy to hang in back and snap a few photos as the Campy Super Record brakes aren't as responsive as modern dual pivots even with Kool Stop pads.

http://jonpfischer.com/thecuda/photos/upload/08RidePhotos/tn_IMG_1176.jpg
One last photo from today's ride. We had a nice tail wind and a nice smooth road so photo taking was easy at that moment.