Road Bike Racing - Ethics question #Infinity

Would it be ethical for me to obtain and administer to myself some EPO and Testosterone so that I don't downgrade back to the Cat 5s? ;)

Sure.

^^^^Sweet!

Would it be ethical for me to obtain and administer to myself some EPO and Testosterone so that I don't downgrade back to the Cat 5s? ;)

Is this a trick question?

Sorry. No downgrades to the 5's.

Completely ethical.

Good luck.

Sorry. No downgrades to the 5's.

You can't downgrade, but you can "accidently" let your licience expire, then go in as a citizen.

Just don't forget the HGH, ephedimines, lots of albutorol, and lets not forget coke.

Sorry. No downgrades to the 5's.

Dang...i guess i'm just gonna have to race into shape and continue to finish every race DFL

Sorry. No downgrades to the 5's.
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Dang...i guess i'm just gonna have to race into shape and continue to finish every race DFL
Welcome to my world. If you and I lived in the same area, we could sprint for next-to-last place!

Dang...i guess i'm just gonna have to race into shape and continue to finish every race DFL

If there isn't somebody slower and fatter out on the course with you, then you aren't recruiting hard enough.

I think my personal slower,fatter go to guy is out of town for our next event so a probable DFL is in my future as well.

If there isn't somebody slower and fatter out on the course with you, then you aren't recruiting hard enough.

I think my personal slower,fatter go to guy is out of town for our next event so a probable DFL is in my future as well.

there aren't too many guys around here that continue past the 5s weighing over 200lbs. I am currently 238 as of this morning (up from 217 at the end of last race season). Gaining 20 lbs does wonders for the inability to hang on to a wheel even in a large group. I would like to be back to 215 by the end of August (very doable) and under 200 (for good) by the end of the year. Until then I will continue to get my ass handed to me even at the weekly training crit.

there aren't too many guys around here that continue past the 5s weighing over 200lbs. I am currently 238 as of this morning (up from 217 at the end of last race season). Gaining 20 lbs does wonders for the inability to hang on to a wheel even in a large group. I would like to be back to 215 by the end of August (very doable) and under 200 (for good) by the end of the year. Until then I will continue to get my ass handed to me even at the weekly training crit.

No sanctioned stuff around here so if I can talk another fatty into getting shelled with me I'm golden.
I'm 210+/- down from 250 in October and need to see 200 to fully claim my new bicycle so I feel your pain. Trying to cut weight and build power seem to not go together very well for me.

Dang...i guess i'm just gonna have to race into shape and continue to finish every race DFL

you and me both, buddy

You can't downgrade, but you can "accidently" let your licience expire, then go in as a citizen.

Just don't forget the HGH, ephedimines, lots of albutorol, and lets not forget coke.

Any self-respecting CAT4 also transfuses the blood of a Nepalese sherpa. Daily.
























Or so I hear.

Any self-respecting CAT4 also transfuses the blood of a Nepalese sherpa. Daily.

no. No. NO!

You have to eat their soul.

How does one avoid downgrading to a Fred? Dual citizenship er, um licensing?
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funny...i started this thread slightly messing around but it has been one of my more successful threads..

You have to secure the right EPO, I'm sure you realize there is the Cat1 EPO, Cat2 EPO, Pro EPO etc. Don't get the Cat5 EPO and/or try to save money by getting the Kroger brand :)

It's only illegal if you get caught.

I weight 136lbs...

What happens to a Cat 5 with 20+ starts? I haven't read anything about forced upgrades.

^^^Wanders, most people desire to excel at the highest level possible or at least attempt to compete at the highest level possibe. A cat 5 with 20+ starts really isn't doing himself a favor I feel. Get out of the 5s and start racing. The 4s in my area are noticeably faster and the races are at least 1.5x the length of the 5 races.

There is a real ethical question here. Say im an older rider, naturally experiencing a drop in Test. Is it unethical to go to my physician complaining of lack of energy, ect and get that supplemented? Along with say HgH?

^^^Don't attempt to turn this into a real thread...I made it originally to mock the increasing number of ethics threads here!!!

To answer your question, I don't think Doctors jump to prescribe EPO as a supplement. In fact, I think you would have to have something very wrong with your ability to create blood cells for them to prescribe it.

My grandfather had Acute Myeloid Dysplasia which eventually caused his death. Basically the bone marrow stopped making RBCs and his Hematocrit levels were in the 8-15% range (normal human is in the 40-50% range if i recall correctly). They still did not prescribe EPO until I asked the Doc about it. I think they ended up giving him ProCrit and it still didn't work.

^^^Don't attempt to turn this into a real thread...I made it originally to mock the increasing number of ethics threads here!!!

To answer your question, I don't think Doctors jump to prescribe EPO as a supplement. In fact, I think you would have to have something very wrong with your ability to create blood cells for them to prescribe it.

My grandfather had Acute Myeloid Dysplasia which eventually caused his death. Basically the bone marrow stopped making RBCs and his Hematocrit levels were in the 8-15% range (normal human is in the 40-50% range if i recall correctly). They still did not prescribe EPO until I asked the Doc about it. I think they ended up giving him ProCrit and it still didn't work.

Sorry for the change in direction. I was talking about Testosterone, and to a lesser degree HgH. More and more in the medical community this is being treated as a real deficiency in and prescribed to older men. Similar to estrogen supplementation in older women that has been going on routinely for years.

What happens to a Cat 5 with 20+ starts?

They tend not to f**k up and get killed in cat 4 races. 10 races aint enough.

Sorry for the change in direction. I was talking about Testosterone, and to a lesser degree HgH. More and more in the medical community this is being treated as a real deficiency in and prescribed to older men. Similar to estrogen supplementation in older women that has been going on routinely for years.

Estrogen supplementation is very quickly falling out of favor as people realize the strong correlation between it and various deathly ills.

I say it is unethical for racers (old or young) to supplement with test. All someone needs to do is find a hack MD or in many states a total hack "Naturopath" to pump them full of drugs via script.