Classic & Vintage - 27 x 1 1/4 rims?

Hello all!

Anyone know of any online retailers that carry 27 x 1 1/4 quick-release rims?

Thanks ahead!

Hello all!

Anyone know of any online retailers that carry 27 x 1 1/4 quick-release rims?

Thanks ahead!
Is this what you're looking for? http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=113&subcategory=1128&brand=&sku=9654&storetype=&estoreid=

Man, I just threw a ton of them away.

I have a couple left - vintage '70's and 80's stuff, though. If you are interested, contact me.

I have a set or twon in the basement as well, e-mail me direct if you pass on "Mike's" offer above. Without going into the basement tonight, it's freakin' cold in the Northeast, I can't tell you exactly what they are BUT...


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I've a pile of them (okay, three sets) as well. As to looking for them online, you may want to measure your rear dropout spacing on the bike you plan to put them on. I'm guessing it's an older bike, since it's got 27" wheels. Over the years, the spacing of the rear dropouts on bikes has steadily increased, from 120mm to 122mm to 126mm to 130mm, with variations run wild. You can generally go up or down a couple of mm, but you wouldn't be able to jump from 120 to 130mm without resetting the frame. Some hubs can be respaced, as well.

Nice 27" rims aren't that hard to find. Thrift stores have an abundance of older bikes, and you can often find decent 27" rims rather cheap. Probably for less than it would cost to ship them.

Nice 27" rims aren't that hard to find. Thrift stores have an abundance of older bikes, and you can often find decent 27" rims rather cheap. Probably for less than it would cost to ship them.

This is a good point. Check your local thrift shops first. You can usually buy a whole bike for about $35.00. Shipping and the hassle of shipping is worth that.

120mm to 122mm to 126mm to 130mm, with variations run wild.

I think 122mm is the old 5 speed standard and 126mm is the old 6 speed standard. But what about 120mm? Never seen one of those.

This is a good point. Check your local thrift shops first. You can usually buy a whole bike for about $35.00. Shipping and the hassle of shipping is worth that. I guess nice is relative. You will find more junk than decent stuff at thrift stores.

I think 122mm is the old 5 speed standard and 126mm is the old 6 speed standard. But what about 120mm? Never seen one of those.Never heard of 122 myself. 120: 5 and 6 speed. 126: 6 and 7 speed. 130 current 8/9/10 road. 135 current mtb

Right now I have a 12spd Schwinn Worldsport that I picked up for 50 bucks. It's in great shape and has custom stem/bars/cranks/derailleurs yadda yadda yadda. I was really surprised seeing a schwinn with so many nice components... :)

I don't plan on spending a lot of money on it, just a daily rider to tear up as I attempt to learn basic bike mechanics & maintenance.

I assume i could find a matching 27 x 1 1/4 rim at a thrift store, I'll definitely go look. The remaining front wheel is etched with "TRIO 630 x 16 27 x 1 1/4 WEINMAN 416 ALLOY" if that makes any sense.

Cheers!

front wheel is etched with "TRIO 630 x 16 27 x 1 1/4 WEINMAN 416 ALLOY" if that makes any sense.

Cheers!

630 is the rim diameter in millimeters.

120mm was the standard five speed spacing. As six speed freewheels came in, many bikes moved to 126. However, models with 122 were not unusual. My PKN is 122mm (oddly, my PFN from the same year is spaced at 126). I've recently worked on two motobecanes with the 122 spacing, and also recently had an early eighties trek 710 pass thru my hands with the same spacing. The trek and Peugeot ran/run six, the two motos five. I wouldn't call it the usual spacing, but I've run into it often enough on bikes from the mid-seventies to early eighties. When I first ran into it I thought it an oddity, but I've seen it too often now.

The poster who notes you find a lot of trash at thrifts is correct; in fact, the majority of what's there is dreck. However, I've found a good percentage of gold among the dross.

The poster who notes you find a lot of trash at thrifts is correct; in fact, the majority of what's there is dreck. However, I've found a good percentage of gold among the dross.

Yes, of course you can't expect thrift stores to be filled with excellent old bikes. The thrift shop in my town puts out about five bikes and throws the rest of them out. Because the store folks don't know anything about bikes, they usually put the stuff out that has the newest trend look. Sometimes they let me buy from the junk pile and there are often 20 to 30 bikes in the pile every week. It is not unusual to find some very good machines in the mix. My home shop is filled to the rafters with good parts taken from gorgeous bikes rescued from the thrift shop boneyard.

What is a QUICK RELEASE RIM. I think you are talking about QR Hubs?? or , perhaps Rims for Tubular tyres. David le Breton

My mistake, I was refering to QR hubs. :D

Yep, thrift stores and garage sales rock. I got my 1978 Raleigh made with Reynolds 531, it had Cinelli Stem and Bars, 105 Crank, Campy Headset, seatpost, derailers and hubs. It was missing the seat and the pedals and the rear brake and was being sold for $50. I got it for $10 because I haggle over the missing bits and how the bike was "nonfunctional". Of course now it's running fixed detail but I still have all the nicer old bits around for future use.

How hard would i be to convert a 5 or 6 speed derailler type bike to fixed? Could a guy buy just a 27" track wheel, lockring, and cog and be set?

Spacing would be the key I would think, since most track hubs are 120mm spaced. Does any of this make sense?

I converted a 6 speed with a 27in. wheel to a fixed by buying a fixed 700c wheel and just swapping the the wheels...of course I also bought a 700c front wheel. I did have to respace the rear wheel to get the proper chainline which was not difficult.
Note: If you're going to switch to a 700 wheel and want to run brakes you should make sure the brakes you plan on using have enough reach to grab the 700 wheel.

"How hard would i be to convert a 5 or 6 speed derailler type bike to fixed? Could a guy buy just a 27" track wheel, lockring, and cog and be set?"

Yep. MKRG is right about the brakes, though. On a fixie you really only need a front brake, so just borrow a friend's 700c front wheel, stick it in your fork, and see if your brake has the proper reach. You can stay with the 27" rims if you want, but you have (substantially) lessened tire selection. A minor obstacle, and if cash is a factor, you can just stay with the 27" wheels.

Some will argue you don't need a front brake, since you "brake" a fixie by backpedaling. But if I'm riding in traffic, I want a redundant braking system in case one brake goes (ie chain break or cable snap or whatever). I maintain my bikes, so it's probably not an issue, but better safe than sorry.

You can respace the hub by adding a couple of spacers if need be.

Forgot to add this, which is more wise than I (not terribly hard, but hey):

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/fixed/index.html

Have fun!

You can also get a single speed freewheel to thread onto your existing rear hub, but this would give you a singlespeed, not a fixie. Take off your outer ring, derailleurs, rear brake, etc and go. You may have to respace the rear axle and redish the rear wheel to make the chainline work, but it is easily done.

Does anybody know what would be the easiest wheel to use instead of a 27 x 1/4 would be ? how would i go about doing this also ?

I have an older schwinn traveler & i would i like a better wheel selection . thanks you ahead of time . :]

Changing to 700cm wheels, the modern standard, can trigger additional costs dealing with your brakes mainly (may not reach, will need longer reach brakes). Use the search function and you can learn a lot more.

There still are some reasonably decent 27 inch tires out there, and that is the cost effective solution.

PS: You just resurrected a five year old thread.

Sheldon B, who is quoted quite often, made some simple and cheap drop adaptors to facilitate the use of short reach brakes when changing from 27" to 700c wheels. I have not personally done it but I would not be afraid to use his method. Just do and have fun working on the bike.

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Some will argue you don't need a front brake, since you "brake" a fixie by backpedaling. But if I'm riding in traffic, I want a redundant braking system in case one brake goes (ie chain break or cable snap or whatever). I maintain my bikes, so it's probably not an issue, but better safe than sorry.

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I believe what's being asked about is a "suicide hub" ie. threading a cog and BB lockring onto a road hub. This works fine, but you absolutely positively shouldn't run this setup brakeless, as it's possible to spin the cog off the hub. At that point you're free-sailing with no means of stopping. A track hub, on the other hand, has reverse threads for the lockring, so that back-peddling actually tightens the lockring. Personally, I still wouldn't ride brakeless on the road, but some do.

Question I was responding to:
"How hard would i be to convert a 5 or 6 speed derailler type bike to fixed? Could a guy buy just a 27" track wheel, lockring, and cog and be set?" italics mine.

I hate lookin' like an idiot, though it happens constant-like... and was likely one five years ago, as well.

You are correct about suicide setups.

thanks for the input .

I believe what's being asked about is a "suicide hub" ie. threading a cog and BB lockring onto a road hub. This works fine, but you absolutely positively shouldn't run this setup brakeless, as it's possible to spin the cog off the hub. At that point you're free-sailing with no means of stopping. A track hub, on the other hand, has reverse threads for the lockring, so that back-peddling actually tightens the lockring. Personally, I still wouldn't ride brakeless on the road, but some do.

In practice, I've found that all suicide-hub fixie conversions done on aluminum hubs promptly strip the hub threads.

-Kurt

In practice, I've found that all suicide-hub fixie conversions done on aluminum hubs promptly strip the hub threads.

-Kurt

That hasn't been my experience. Maybe I'm just not strong enough. I know quite a few other folks who have ridden them with no trouble, though.

Question I was responding to:
"How hard would i be to convert a 5 or 6 speed derailler type bike to fixed? Could a guy buy just a 27" track wheel, lockring, and cog and be set?" italics mine.

I hate lookin' like an idiot, though it happens constant-like... and was likely one five years ago, as well.

You are correct about suicide setups.

Sorry about that. My fault for not reading the thread closely enough. I was just following the discussion of thrift store wheels and then fixed conversions came up, and I didn't notice that it was someone else asking about track wheels. Although, as you pointed out, there's nothing wrong with having a brake on board with one of those either.

How easy is it to find a 27 x 1 1/4" rim that's hooked though? All the new 27" tires, at least the flat resistant ones, require hooked rims. I've looked at Bontrager, Continental Gators, and Marathons.

I'm running Bontrager Hardcases now on the old rims, but I'm afraid to fill them to full pressure. They do go on very tight, but I'd still rather have them "hooked."