Classic & Vintage - A Condor Rarity...No lugs

I bought this frame awhile back with the intent of riding it as a fixed gear but I think I am going to have it cold-set and run a modern cassette hub system with sew ups. I know that it was made in the original Condor factory. I still don't know who built it. It was said to be made in 73. I'm trying to track down the builder.

Some suggested Vic Edwards could have built it but I can't get much info. The folks at Condor sent me an e-mail saying records don't go back as far as 73.


Here is the most beautiful set of drop outs I have seen. Look at the nice detail work.



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How do you like the seat stay...Oh yeah!

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Now the frame in all her glory.

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I think the fork crown is Cineli investment cast. I'm not so sure.
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Gorgeous headbadge http://img387.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0002106ue8.jpg

So the mystery remains on this frame. Did the same hands that built my frame produce this frame for Mick Jagger?

http://www.quickrelease.tv/pix/webjagger.jpg (This image is not mine but taken from the web)

I think yours is way cooler than Mick's!
I'm not sure about the forkcrown: Cinelli did make a lot of patterns, but that one is seldom seen. Could be something from the RonKit catalog, maybe a BCM (bocama) crown that RonKit branded as Milremo.
The name may refer to the race, now discontinued, the Trofeo Angelo Baracchi...google it.

How do you know about the "original Condor" factory part? Condor was a fairly small operation that regularly used outside contract builders, AFAIK. If I had to bet cash money, I'd bet that the person building the show bikes and equivalent was not the person building the fillet brazed ones, but it's hard to determine this kind of thing. It might help to have a SN.

Excellent! Always nice to see another condor out there.

I"m glad you're going to do a full build, instead of going "fixtie".

So the mystery remains on this frame. Did the same hands that built my frame produce this frame for Mick Jagger?

http://www.quickrelease.tv/pix/webjagger.jpg (This image is not mine but taken from the web)

Universal 68's! What year was that thing built for him?

-Kurt

The headbadges changed when Condor move to a new location. The original shop was at 90 Grays Inn.

The lugless Baracchi was made for many years. I am pretty sure mine was built by Vic Edwards.
It was the bike displayed at the New York bike show in the early 70s and has a "V" serial number.
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I know my Condor was original because it has the same headbadge. Our frames share the same fork crown.

My serial number is V1373

The bottom bracket on my frame is not drilled. The seatpost did not have the condor engraved. Did you get lucky enough to have a Brooks Condor saddle?

It came with a drilled plastic saddle - no padding or leather cover. This bike was shown in New York as a 18 pound time trial bike. It has a drilled Zeus crankset and drilled Weinman brakes handles. I can't remember if the Huret Jubilee shifters are original. It may have had Zeus shifters in the beginning.

Do you think the 72 or 73 in the serial number is a the year built? I think mine was at the Feb 1973 bike show.

There's a Condor Baracchi on Ebay now. Claims to be 1973 London show bike.
Starting at $500 but no bids so far.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320275530121&indexURL=2&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting

Looks identical to the OP's bike. Even has the same carpet in the background.

Looks identical to the OP's bike. Even has the same carpet in the background.

I did not notice that it was same as OP. I'm too lazy to click on links for pictures.

I'll bring the OP pictures in. Still prefer my black one with the gold background for the decals.

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eBay photo theft?

-Kurt

eBay photo theft?

-Kurt

I don't know, I saw the bike on ebay and then remembered this thread.
Unless sorefeet posted 4 more pictures somewhere else, and someone took those too, then this is sofefeet's bike.