Mountain Biking - kickstand?

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Mr Jerk
01-12-04, 09:12 PM
Do you guys have a kickstand on your bike?
I used to, but the bolt holding it on kept getting lose, so finnally I over tightened it, and the whole mounting bracket broke in half. :D
I bought another kickstand, I still havnt put it on! :D I hate leaning the bike against the wall, and having it slide and hit the floor! :D
Maelstrom
01-12-04, 09:13 PM
Kick stands are dangerous on mtb's...I don't use them.
a2psyklnut
01-12-04, 09:14 PM
Are you serious? Or, are you trolling?
L8R
Mr Jerk
01-12-04, 09:22 PM
Are you serious? Or, are you trolling?
L8R
My bike spends 75% of its riding time on paved roads (city slicker), I get to go offroad about once a month! :D
What can go wrong? :D
Mr Jerk
01-12-04, 09:24 PM
Kick stands are dangerous on mtb's...I don't use them.
why? :D
Edwards
01-12-04, 09:43 PM
OK
You don't need a kickstand, just lean the bike on its left side to protect the RD and you are fine. (And kickstands look bad on a MB)
why? :DJust imagine one coming down in a tecnical section of a trail say hopping over a rock when suddenly BOOM the kickstand plants itself into the rock throwing you into a nice tree that just happens to be nearby. Quit trolling.
a2psyklnut
01-12-04, 10:17 PM
I've actually seen a kid impale himself with the kickstand. It was all wobbly and didn't stay in the up position. Anyways, he crashed, "endoed" and the bike came down on top of him. Well, the kickstand was sticking out and it got him right in the calf muscle. About a 2" deep puncture! Had to get 4 stiches as well! (lots of blood) Also, if you've ever had a puncture wound, you know how much they hurt!
L8R
Maelstrom
01-12-04, 10:33 PM
why? :D
Since you are using a mtb like a road bike. Don't worry about it.
Chris L
01-13-04, 05:00 AM
Let's give the guy a chance before we all say "troll". One would be surprised just how many bikes (particularly department store bikes) come fitted with a kickstand as standard. Of course, if anyone does suspect "troll", why are they responding?
FWIW, I personally have never seen the value in the things. I can lean my bike against a wall if necessary and avoid having it fall to the ground. It just involves taking an extra couple of seconds to make sure that it won't.
Mr Jerk
01-13-04, 09:15 AM
I was just asking if you guys using kickstands! :D
I said I dont have a kickstand on my bike! :D
robertsdvd
01-13-04, 09:22 AM
Personally, I have no problems with kickstands on commuters, tourers or utility cycles. I do, however, have a problem with other cyclists poo-poo'ing someone simply because they have a kickstand. Bike cops have kickstands and they do some insane stuff on those things.
Mr Jerk
01-13-04, 09:29 AM
Personally, I have no problems with kickstands on commuters, tourers or utility cycles. I do, however, have a problem with other cyclists poo-poo'ing someone simply because they have a kickstand. Bike cops have kickstands and they do some insane stuff on those things.
bike cops use those kickstands that are mounted near the rear axle, they're actually forwerd facing. If that thing were to pop down, KA-BOOM!!! :D
Since when to bike cops do any insane stuff?
:roflmao:
robertsdvd
01-13-04, 09:38 AM
Well, I for one am not versed, yet at least, at riding up stairs.
Do you guys have a kickstand on your bike?
I used to, but the bolt holding it on kept getting lose,
I have no kickstands on my bikes for the exact same reason you just mentioned above.
so finnally I over tightened it, and the whole mounting bracket broke in half. :D
You're lucky you didn't crimp whatever piece of tubing it was mounting.
I bought another kickstand, I still havnt put it on! :D I hate leaning the bike against the wall, and having it slide and hit the floor! :D
... as opposed to having a gust of wind or an errant elbow brush by and knocking the bike over with the same results?
Besides... everyone knows that the ultimate way to hold up a bike is... to use another bike. ;)
http://www.neebu.net/~khuon/gallery/2003STP-1/PICT0027
Other ways to stand up a bike without a kickstand include the curb-method...
http://www.neebu.net/~khuon/gallery/2003STP-2/PICT0026
... note that this also works for mountain bikes...
http://www.neebu.net/~khuon/gallery/rattlesnake_lake/PICT0009
... and the following would probably be the preferred method for some of the male cyclists out there... ;)
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?p=174773#post174773
Maelstrom
01-13-04, 11:17 AM
Personally, I have no problems with kickstands on commuters, tourers or utility cycles. I do, however, have a problem with other cyclists poo-poo'ing someone simply because they have a kickstand. Bike cops have kickstands and they do some insane stuff on those things.
I don't think you will find that we were poo-pooing...I could care less. But on a mtb doing mtb things...they are dangerous. Quite simple really.
a2psyklnut
01-14-04, 08:51 AM
Hey Khuon,
There you go again bringing up the Natophelia thing again!
L8R
I can see where a kickstand could be a dangerous thing if you do a lot of agressive riding on very dangerous terrain. A lot of people like me don't do that however.
I have a kickstand on one mountain bike and not on the other. I by far prefer the bike with the kickstand. I hate being on the trail and needing to climb off to adjust clothing etc. Every time I have to scout for a place that I can lean my bike against. With the kickstand bike, I just dismount wherever I want.
I can see the safety issue with the kickstand. But i also see a bit of fashion police involved. There is nothing wrong with a kickstand in many situations. I love mine and may be in the market for another.
a2psyklnut
01-14-04, 10:00 AM
No one's mentioned the weight factor. Although NOT a weight wienie, I don't want to have any excess weight on my bike.
L8R
Mr Jerk
01-14-04, 10:05 AM
No one's mentioned the weight factor. Although NOT a weight wienie, I don't want to have any excess weight on my bike.
L8R
Yep, I'll have to agree with you there.
justsomeguy
01-14-04, 10:35 AM
I can see where a kickstand could be a dangerous thing if you do a lot of agressive riding on very dangerous terrain. A lot of people like me don't do that however.
I have a kickstand on one mountain bike and not on the other. I by far prefer the bike with the kickstand. I hate being on the trail and needing to climb off to adjust clothing etc. Every time I have to scout for a place that I can lean my bike against. With the kickstand bike, I just dismount wherever I want.
I can see the safety issue with the kickstand. But i also see a bit of fashion police involved. There is nothing wrong with a kickstand in many situations. I love mine and may be in the market for another.
On every ride that I take I can find this thing known as "the ground" upon which I rest my bike.
I guess if you can't find "the ground," or a wall, tree, rock, post, etc. a kickstand might be handy.
Mr Jerk
01-14-04, 10:40 AM
On every ride that I take I can find this thing known as "the ground" upon which I rest my bike.
I guess if you can't find "the ground," or a wall, tree, rock, post, etc. a kickstand might be handy.
But if you're a poser like me, you'll want to stand it up on its own, just to show off. :D
I hate being on the trail and needing to climb off to adjust clothing etc. Every time I have to scout for a place that I can lean my bike against. With the kickstand bike, I just dismount wherever I want.
I don't know what kind of trails you ride but the ones I'm used to have far too uneven or unstable (loose ground, soft ground, rocky ground) a terrain for a kickstand to be of much use. The end result would be the bike returning to it's lowest potential energy state by tipping over onto its side. If there's nothing very stable to lean it against, I simply preempt this by putting it down on its nondrive side in the first place.
I can see the safety issue with the kickstand. But i also see a bit of fashion police involved. There is nothing wrong with a kickstand in many situations. I love mine and may be in the market for another.
The original post asked if we used kickstands and we answered that with a good supply of reasons. This is afterall the mountain biking forum and given the scope of the general audience, I would have to say that most of the responders here have extremely good reasons for avoiding kickstands. Your "many situations" probably do not apply to many of these readers and as such the appropriatness of a kickstand on their bikes is most likely proportionally opposite.
Nope-no kickstand, no reflectors, either. Kickstands are dangerous.
iamthetas
01-14-04, 07:32 PM
WHATS A TROLL?i have one that i install for commuting around town and take off on the trails.its just one bolt as far as the best kickstand being another bike, thats way funny!
a2psyklnut
01-15-04, 10:03 AM
A troll is a person who asks deliberate sensitive or highly debateable questions just to "Stir the pot".
My first post was sincere, "Do you really want to know or are you just "stirring the pot?". My guess is a little bit of both. Morso on the side of "really wanting to know".
I do admit to being a bit skeptical of Mr. Jerk initially as a TROLL only because of 1. his username and 2. this question and 3. his "newbieness".
Now that I've read some of his posts, I feel that Mr. Jerk was sincere in this questioning. Therefore, I publically apologize to you Mr. Jerk, for any preconceptions I had. No hard feelings.
L8R
PeterG1185
01-15-04, 01:42 PM
troll
Mr Jerk
01-15-04, 02:13 PM
A troll is a person who asks deliberate sensitive or highly debateable questions just to "Stir the pot".
My first post was sincere, "Do you really want to know or are you just "stirring the pot?". My guess is a little bit of both. Morso on the side of "really wanting to know".
I do admit to being a bit skeptical of Mr. Jerk initially as a TROLL only because of 1. his username and 2. this question and 3. his "newbieness".
Now that I've read some of his posts, I feel that Mr. Jerk was sincere in this questioning. Therefore, I publically apologize to you Mr. Jerk, for any preconceptions I had. No hard feelings.
L8R
thank you :D
schwinnbikelove
01-15-04, 04:46 PM
I guess if you can't find "the ground," or a wall, tree, rock, post, etc. a kickstand might be handy"
If you can't find the ground, then a kickstand wouldn't work, either......
iamthetas
01-17-04, 06:24 AM
Thanks For Clearing That Troll Thing Up
HyperHall
01-17-04, 07:04 AM
kickstands ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
they are dumb
they add to the weight of your bike
they dont work most the time
they get in the way
they lossen up way to easy
they piss me off
they make a bunch of noise
they come on department store bikes
All so you dont have to lay your bike on its side
now thats wack
On every ride that I take I can find this thing known as "the ground" upon which I rest my bike.
I guess if you can't find "the ground," or a wall, tree, rock, post, etc. a kickstand might be handy.
My parents taught me not to lay my bikes on the ground. :p I am sure it is an ok thing to do but I will continue to keep mine upright. To each his own I suppose.
KleinMp99
01-17-04, 03:16 PM
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There I drew the line.......thread ends here.
I guess I'm crossing the line, then... right?
;)
:D
Koffee
Sonny*Daze
01-17-04, 06:04 PM
Can't someone start a Bike Forum that only allows true HardCore Mtn.Bikers that have been in the sport for more than 2 weeks....
Any "MtnBiker" that rides on the pavement with their mtnbike is NOT a true MTN.BIKER... Period....
this place is starting to insult my intelligence
cycletourist
01-17-04, 06:35 PM
Any "MtnBiker" that rides on the pavement with their mtnbike is NOT a true MTN.BIKER... Period....
But that is what the mountain bike fad is all about - "image". Just like all those SUV's. Buy the capability for all terrain even tho you will probably never leave the pavement.
Of course I am being sarcastic. Just in case no one noticed :-)
Sonny*Daze
01-17-04, 06:47 PM
But that is what the mountain bike fad is all about - "image". Just like all those SUV's. Buy the capability for all terrain even tho you will probably never leave the pavement.
Of course I am being sarcastic. Just in case no one noticed :-)
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DMulyava
01-17-04, 06:50 PM
I think this thread should be closed.. asap.
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