Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Keirin frames

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bombusben
01-16-04, 03:03 PM
I've been looking around for a new frame for the past year or two and keep comming back to the idea of building up a NJS approved bike. Anyone know of builders other than Nagasawa, Gan Well, or 3Rensho? Any experience with these makes or others would be great.
Thanks
badchad
01-16-04, 04:24 PM
All 3Rensho frames are not Keirin certified- I believe the Cyclone and Track Racer aren't.
On a brighter note, the 3Rensho I bought is NJS stamped, and I didn't know this before I bought it. I am excited. Hooray.
Anyhow, building a FULL NJS bike isn't really worthwhile unless you are going to enter it in a show, race keirin, or want the coolness factor.
jitensha!
01-16-04, 05:20 PM
vivalo, cherubim, kiyo miyazawa and some of the bridgestone models are the ones i can come up with off the top of my head, 'tho finding one in the states is next to impossible. i thought about trying to build an all-NJS bike, but i don't like 36-spoke wheels, and i'm much too lazy for tubulars.
Jonny B
01-16-04, 09:00 PM
What exactly does NJS mean?
jitensha!
01-16-04, 10:18 PM
What exactly does NJS mean?
NJS stands for Nihon Jitensha Shinkokai.
check this:
http://www.americancyclery.com/NAGASAWA/
Jonny B
01-17-04, 02:38 PM
OK, so what does it mean to have NJS stamped on your frame?
OneTinSloth
01-17-04, 02:46 PM
it means that your bike > everyone else's bike....and that you're super cool....and that you spent a lot of money on it....dammit. i want an NJS frame!
Thylacine
01-17-04, 11:27 PM
Best part about the Nagasawa's are the dropouts. I'd put them on my fixie frames....if the bastid would sell them to other builders.
As for NJS certification...who gives a rats ass. Track is track. Wanna race on the track, you have to abide by the rules, regardless of location. If you're doing the urban fixie messenger thing, ignore the rules. That's the rule. Heh.
Ya'll are not riding Keirins so who needs the NJS certification? Its like the Kavlin Cline or Starbucks of the
fixie crowd.
Marty
pitboss
01-18-04, 04:25 PM
...or Starbucks of the fixie crowd.
Damn you Starbucks!
bombusben
01-18-04, 09:40 PM
Ya'll are not riding Keirins so who needs the NJS certification? Its like the Kavlin Cline or Starbucks of the
fixie crowd.
Marty
To each his own
fixedgearhead
01-19-04, 06:19 AM
Everybody has their own reasons for riding fixed. I am going to buy a Nagasawa next year and will probably outfit with as complete a kerin certified component group as I can obtain. Among other bikes I own and ride is a bike that I rescued from a dumpster. It is not Kerin certified. I love it just as much as I know I will the forthcoming purchase. Ride what you love and love what you ride, not what somebody else rides and tells you to love.
fixedgearhead
I am Japanese Keirin rider (Tomity)
English is not proud, but wants to talk with all of you pleasantly
Please look at this place
http://homepage.mac.com/tomity/PhotoAlbum32.html
http://homepage.mac.com/tomity/PhotoAlbum37.html
http://homepage.mac.com/tomity/PhotoAlbum35.html
http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2004/e/tomity.htm
OneTinSloth
10-30-04, 10:36 PM
I am Japanese Keirin rider (Tomity)
English is not proud, but wants to talk with all of you pleasantly
Please look at this place
http://homepage.mac.com/tomity/PhotoAlbum32.html
http://homepage.mac.com/tomity/PhotoAlbum37.html
http://homepage.mac.com/tomity/PhotoAlbum35.html
http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2004/e/tomity.htm
hey man! welcome to the boards! i believe we checked out your site a few months ago! cool stuff!
Thank you for looking at my HP
I did net surfing and found this forum
I am surprised at an early note from you
I am so excited, too
Let's talk about Keirin
Tomity
Tomity, Welcome! Check your PM!
I have a LEVEL Frame and UNO frame.
S/F,
CEYA!
Hi Ceya
Thank you quick reply
LEVEL & UNO is good makers
Unfortunately a producer was ill, and UNO became dead four years ago
Because it is valuable now, please be careful
How did the frame obtain it?
Tomity
Tomity-Your HP is very nice. I like all the photographs of the riders, and it is good to see so many international riders competing in Keirin. It must add to the excitement of the races.
Any comments on Fumiyuku Beppu riding for Discovery next year? Have you met him?
Hi don d.
Thank you for looking at my HP
However, I am sorry that there is much Japanese
I knew Fumiyuku Beppu, but have not met
Tomity
pitboss
10-31-04, 04:37 PM
Tomity
Thank you for sharing! Look forward to seeing more pictures and hearing some stories.
Just a quick photo of I believe Tomity lifted from his homepage:
jitensha!
11-01-04, 04:50 PM
youkoso, tomity-san!!
Tomity,
Genki desu ka?
Migi.
Look at the top right corner here
You last visited: 11-01-04 at 04:04 AM
Private Messages:
I sent you private messages.
S/F,
CEYA!
A3rd.Zero
11-02-04, 08:53 AM
From what I have read NJS certified is in existence because Keirin was designed to feed money back into the Japanese cycling industry. It is not necessarily better gear, it is just stamped and costs more so that more money can be circulated. Not that this is a bad thing.
Milo
SD Fixed
11-02-04, 10:36 AM
Thank you for looking at my HP
I did net surfing and found this forum
I am surprised at an early note from you
I am so excited, too
Let's talk about Keirin
Tomity
Tomity-san
Keirin norimasuka?
Keirin no jitensha de norimasuka?
Turako no ishokan ni namkai norimasuka
bostontrevor
11-02-04, 11:09 AM
There's probably a lot of different reasons. One is to shelter the Japanese bicycle industry. Japan, like many Asian economies, has a long tradition of protecting national industry. I've also heard that it's to equalize the advantage, particularly since Keirin is a betting sport. It's more like NASCAR or top-fuel drag racing (there I go again with motorsports references) which are specifically low-tech (carbuerated engines, manual clutches, no-computer control ignition or valves) to avoid them becoming the techno arms race that is Formula-1. Finally, I've heard that it's also about safety--NJS certified parts are approved for safe race use.
NJS is about quality and safety. You don't see exotic frames or gear. Just steel! Just like NASCAR, well said Boston Trevor. it is just like it but government control due to the betting. They go to school for this sport.
S/F,
CEYA!
NJS is about quality and safety. You don't see exotic frames or gear. Just steel! Just like NASCAR, well said Boston Trevor. it is just like it but government control due to the betting. They go to school for this sport.
S/F,
CEYA!
This is my LEVEL Keirin frame.
S/F,
CEYA!
pitboss
11-04-04, 04:58 AM
hot...and you bought this where?
pm already sent.
SF<
CEYA!
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