Fifty Plus (50+) - Mods strike again!

I see some moderator is active in 50+ again. The thread where Will asked about Wisconsin Rail Trails and where I answered his questions was moved. Hopefully this now won't start happening with all of our threads about various localities, as we've had a number of them.

As far as I'm concerned, when a thread is moved out of 50+, then it is dead to me. If anyone in the new forum where it landed asks any questions about my posts in it, they aren't going to get a response because I won't be reading it.

I agree with your last sentiment. I rarely, if ever, follow a "moved" link because it's likely to take me to a forum in which I have no interest. But you know about mods... a power unto themselves.

Sour grapes fella's? No one is perfect ya know.

I will admit for a Mod to move, or edit, a thread and not take by name
credit is a bit low in my book.

Sour grapes? After all the posting I've done here in five years, I've had one thread moved. Several deleted, but they were close to the edge anyway. This issue was dealt with extensively and acrimoniously several weeks ago. Apparently, the lessons remain unlearned for the BF mod gang... that is, if in doubt, leave it alone!

If the mod moved it because it he thought it might be of interest to folks in another forum, I wouldn't have much problem with that. If it was not appropriate to forum, it should be deleted.

If he moved it because it was off topic, if it was of interest to a 50+er, it was on topic, by definition.

It certainly wasn't off-topic. It was about biking the rail trails in Wisconsin & the current conditions of some of those trails & the roads to access them. Will & I, as 50+'ers, enjoy riding on those trails and have frequently shared our experiences on them.

50+ Should be a Mod Free Zone!

My guess is that the mod thought he/she was doing a favor moving it to the regional forum encompassing Wisconsin, where it might get a broader response.

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Just open another thread.

I wonder...has a thread ever been moved to the 50+ forum?

Just sayin'.

My guess is that the mod thought he/she was doing a favor moving it to the regional forum encompassing Wisconsin, where it might get a broader response.

I don't doubt this. But a large percentage of threads in 50+ could be moved if the same criteria is applied to them. Only those that are specifically addressing issues that have to do with being over 50 would be immune.

All of the threads on n+1 bikes, tires, clipless, riding to Portland, saddles, cycling clothes, biking Virginia, and so on and so forth could be moved to other forums. That's not even touching the ones that could technically be moved to Foo.

Just nobody move the pardeeville thread. That would be very embarrassing.

As a mod - as a practice, if I were to move, delete or edit something my usual protocol would be to PM the OP and let them know where I moved it and why. I also would post in the thread that it was moved. I usually would leave a redirect so others will know where it is. Perhaps the OP was notified and was okay with it and could chime in and let us all know.

???

These guys are a pain in the butt. Don't they have nothing else to do?
How about worrying about the stock market instead?

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Stock Market.
30-year reunion.
Flooded bike paths.
Threads being moved.
High Humidity.
Gas Prices.
:notamused:

These guys are a pain in the butt. Don't they have nothing else to do?
How about worrying about the stock market instead?

We've now heard from the OP.

Solveg,

Are you feeling any better?

Still planning to be in Wisconsin this coming weekend?

I am* still going to go to Wisconsin, but the riding portion of the trip will be lessened. We'll still ride trails, though, but we'll take it day by day. I'm neg for lymes and parasites, but still not back to normal. I'm anemic, so I'm hoping a weeks worth of taking iron will make me feel like a biking fool.

Can't wait to do that long tunnel.

Are you still leaving* Wisconsin that weekend? I hope not... I was hoping for some cooler weather. Or in the summer, do you bring heat and humidity?

This has been going on for too many years to worry about now. I have just started reading the old post's and on the last few pages of the 50+ forum- quite a few postings that to me relate to 50+ and cycling have been moved. Prize one is as on the link and originally appeared on page 177.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=80780

Remember- BIG brother is watching you. Or at least reading your post's and poking his/ her oar in where it is not wanted.

Doesn't it strike you all the old names who don't participate on BFs anymore?

Same thing happened in Touring with a six-year-old thread that was revived (unbelievable). And another that has been revived several times in the past six years. Interesting recalling some of the entertainment that some of the characters provided before they were banned (D*Alex, N-C [now he was really, really scary, literally!], Koffee, for example). And what about Pokey and his bargeloads of applesauce... ahhhh, they were the days.

And I think many would now be eligible for admission to this village.

And I suppose I should remember... it could have been Koffee we're dealing with...

I have seen threads moved but I have never seen a thread copied. Just saying if it is so good that it needs to go into another forum maybe it also needs to stay where it is also.

If the mod moved it because it he thought it might be of interest to folks in another forum, I wouldn't have much problem with that. If it was not appropriate to forum, it should be deleted.

If he moved it because it was off topic, if it was of interest to a 50+er, it was on topic, by definition.

I think moving threads to ENABLE access for non-50+ ers is nonsense. Why don't most of us look at multiple forums, to find information we want? I routinely surf Great Lakes, C&V, Mechanics, 50+, Long Distance, Road, Training, and sometimes General. I see many of the same names here as in those other forums, generally not disjoint sets of users. People will browse many areas if they want to find information. There's no need to move it for better access.

And I suppose I should remember... it could have been Koffee we're dealing with...

Very scary thought!

And, yes, I really could never understand why D*Alex was banned - all he did was "tell it like it is!"

Maybe the mod who moved it will speak up. I suspect it was one who has not been hanging around lately - a hit & run new mod.

In general I have to believe that they are just trying to be helpful - but if I had started that thread and it were moved - it would be the last time I looked at it because I don't venture out of this sand box.

When you get to be 50+ you can get disoriented easily and I don't want to get lost and not find my way back home...

What a bunch of whiners. The Mods, Administrators, whoever should just shut down the whole 50+ forum for a week or two. Good grief. Grow up people

I wonder...has a thread ever been moved to the 50+ forum?

Just sayin'.

Tell ya what. I'll start a colonscopy thread in the Road Biking forum, and see if it gets moved here. Waddaya think?:thumb::thumb:

Tell ya what. I'll start a colonscopy thread in the Road Biking forum, and see if it gets moved here. Waddaya think?:thumb::thumb:

Needs to be a little bit more obvious - how about a thread on trips between the Assisted living complex and the senior citizens center for a clinic on fitting hollowed out tennis balls to the bottom of your walker. Although that runs the risk of being moved to the maintenance forum...

I might be able to find a P&R thread to move here. ;) Nothing too nasty, but something Y'all could have some fun with. :D

Maybe a McCain thread?

50+ Should be a Mod Free Zone!

+1

Heavy-handed jack-booted levonecrofascist whippersnapper brigade vs. thin-skinned self-absorbed over-compensated baby-boomers.

It's all good.

Heavy-handed jack-booted levonecrofascist whippersnapper brigade vs. thin-skinned self-absorbed over-compensated baby-boomers.

It's all good.

Overcompensated? Hardly!

I'm with Bombadil on this. Until I read his post I didn't realize mods move 50+ threads to other forums. I have occasionally cross posted to other forums on stuff like travel questions but I always post to 50+ because I value the opinions here. Who cares what the topic is if you are looking for thoughts from a mature group?

When I was in the 6th grade, I was made one of three school crossing guards. Our job was to assist kids as they crossed a street (which was already closed off with barricades) from the school building to the playground. As an adult I can easily see that most of the students didn't really need me to do anything, given they were also accompanied by at least one teacher and a student teacher. However, I took my job very seriously. I would stop each group of kids, make them wait while I looked for the cars that never came, and then give them permission to cross. My two brothers (both in grade school at the same time) told my parents I was a real pain in the butt and that I let my position go to my head. I wonder if being a moderator is anything like that?

Perhaps Tom Bombadil should moderate 50+.

On second thought, though, he's done nothing to merit that level of punishment.

Perhaps Tom Bombadil should moderate 50+.


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Very scary thought!

And, yes, I really could never understand why D*Alex was banned - all he did was "tell it like it is!"

I investigated some of his posts, and they were refreshingly free from the nice-Nellyism that Bike Forums is enforcing nowadays.

Perhaps Tom Bombadil should moderate 50+.


:eek:

The funny thing is that I do "moderate" a lot of work place behavior ... being that I have nearly 200 staff reporting to me (through multiple supervisors). I do enough of that to not want to do anything like it during my spare time.

But in a place like this, I would exercise an extremely light hand - reacting to only the most inappropriate behavior. With the possible exception of randomly deleting DG posts just to see what happens.

I keep telling you folks that you need to put 50+ in the title to help insure it doesn't get moved - not a guarantee, but an enhancer.

I.e.,

How smart are the folks in the Forum NO - it will be moved

How smart are the folks in the 50+ Forum. YES - it will probably not be moved.

50+ Should be a Mod Free Zone!

If you're really over 50 I'd think that you would have learned by now to be more careful of what you wish for. Sometimes there's an unanticipated down side.

:roflmao::roflmao2::lol:
I keep telling you folks that you need to put 50+ in the title to help insure it doesn't get moved - not a guarantee, but an enhancer.

I.e.,

How smart are the folks in the Forum NO - it will be moved

How smart are the folks in the 50+ Forum. YES - it will probably not be moved.


Are you serious?!? Does it matter which side of your mouth your tongue is sticking out of when you type it?

I should probably just ignore this thread, BUT, there seem to be cheep, juvenile references to this thread showing up in other threads in this forum. They are uncalled for and should, in my opinion, be deleted by the mods. And why in the world should this sub-forum be moderator free any more than any other? Being over 50 years old does not make any of us that special. It only makes us more mature.:roflmao2::lol::roflmao: That's my story anyway, and I'm sticking to it.

:roflmao::roflmao2::lol:


Are you serious?!? Does it matter which side of your mouth your tongue is sticking out of when you type it?



That's for me to know and for you to figure out!

Tongue sticking straight out is preferred!:lol::D:lol:

When I was in the 6th grade, I was made one of three school crossing guards. Our job was to assist kids as they crossed a street (which was already closed off with barricades) from the school building to the playground. As an adult I can easily see that most of the students didn't really need me to do anything, given they were also accompanied by at least one teacher and a student teacher. However, I took my job very seriously. I would stop each group of kids, make them wait while I looked for the cars that never came, and them give them permission to cross. My two brothers (both in grade school at the same time) told my parents I was a real pain in the butt and that I let my position go to my head. I wonder if being a moderator is anything like that?

I got fired as a School Crossing Guard and had to return my white belt with sash, white helmet and my large orange flag. Why you ask! Some dumb kid would not stop his bicycle on my orders and went on through and almost got hit by a car. The next day he came by I told him to stop and stuck my flag in his front spokes just to make sure. He stopped alright! Face plant and all.

Things sometimes go to one's head!

These guys are a pain in the butt. Don't they have nothing else to do?I have a lot better things to do than read yet another two pages of pissing and moaning about a moved thread.

So many more better things to do, in fact, that I have reconsidered being a 'moderator-of-record' for the 50+ and will probably ask Brian to take me off; and I think I'll take an extended break from this forum totally.

BTW, no, it was not me; Last mod action I took here was to delete a thread at the request of the person who created the thread.

I couldn't blame you at all, dminor.

I have a lot better things to do than read yet another two pages of pissing and moaning about a moved thread.

So many more better things to do, in fact, that I have reconsidered being a 'moderator-of-record' for the 50+ and will probably ask Brian to take me off; and I think I'll take an extended break from this forum totally.

BTW, no, it was not me; Last mod action I took here was to delete a thread at the request of the person who created the thread.

Like my grandmother, a world class chef, used to say (yes, I know she didn't create the phrase), if you can't stand the heat you should stay out of the kitchen. Obviously, I'm less inclined to be sympathetic to your plight than BluesDawg. As far as I can tell the thread in question was moved in a somewhat arbitrary manner. Most folks who post here live in cultures that highly value free speech. Hence, it's not unreasonable to have strong reactions to moved threads when there was no request for the action. I think, dminor, that you might be taking things personally, when the attacks (as mild as they are) were not directed toward you as an individual. Yet, as a moderator you must feel the same as many folks do when their elected officials act in a manner that does not represent their views and values, but the rest of the world has a distorted view of them because of the actions of others.

On a pragmatic level, most folks in this particular form tend to take their responsibility (the balancing side of freedom) seriously and go to great lengths to not abuse the free speech accorded them on this forum. But, as the "moderator-of-record" for this forum you already know this. There is an arrorgrance in thinking that the 50+ forum should be moderator free. Perhaps this has developed in reaction to a perception that moderators (as a group) have been too arbitary. Or, perhaps its because of an over-inflated sense of self-importance of some of us posting in the 50+ forum. In either event, a portion of people feel they have been jerked around. Have they been? I don't know, and others (as evidenced by their posts) don't care one way or another. What I do suspect is that moderators (as a group) are not unlike most people. Some go to great lengths to be fair and reasoned. Others (not unlike my earlier post in this thread about safety crossing guards) get a bit carried away at times.

With this all said, fairness dictates that I also express my appreciation for the investment you and other moderators have made in the cycling community via your involvement in BF. It's unfortunate that this particular thread seems to have pushed you over the edge. Having recently taken a self-imposed break, I can attest to the value of such a thing.

OK, everybody. Step back from the computer, drop your coffee, and no one around here will get hurt.

Moving a thread is one thing, but already this morning evil moderators seem to have moved both my favorite coffee cup and the ENTER key.

Heh. A little torture never hurt anybody. :p

I have a lot better things to do than read yet another two pages of pissing and moaning about a moved thread.

So many more better things to do, in fact, that I have reconsidered being a 'moderator-of-record' for the 50+ and will probably ask Brian to take me off; and I think I'll take an extended break from this forum totally.

BTW, no, it was not me; Last mod action I took here was to delete a thread at the request of the person who created the thread.

Moderator Strikes

dminor, I would not take on the responsibility of being a moderator and actually appreciate the efforts of the moderators to keep bikeforums somewhat safe and sane.

I would not blame you if you Strike.