Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Weinmann Deep V's

how many people ride these??

i know they're not as good as velocity wheels but they are more in my budget right now...

are they durable/good/awesome for the price/not worth getting/etc????

let me know

search. they work as budget wheels.

it depends on what you want out of your wheels.

if you want cheap, deep profile rims with no other function than looking cool, weinmann dp18 are definitely worth the money. colored deep rims sure do look cool on the right bike, and the rims are not going to fall apart in a month, or anything like that.

that said, if you're looking for high quality rims at a good price, you could probably do better elsewhere.

just be aware that you'll be buying one of the heaviest clincher rims around.

They're cheap, strong, and don't look half bad in silver or black.

heavy but can take a beating

+5 on the heavy.
mine are riding ok.. kind of wish I went with the Mavic cxp22's though. I don't feel too comfortable with the weinmanns due to so many reporting the rims splitting at the seem after a while.

Wheel weight is important because it is rotational mass, so saving weight on the wheels is more important than saving weight on your frame. Saying that if you're riding an old steel bike there is no sense is spending and extortionate amount of money on a set of wheels and if your just riding around generally (no racing etc.) then the dp18's would be fine and will look cool.

I have a beater fix that has some 3 year old Weiny DP-18s on it. Still true, never trued outside of how they came at the shop (good shop, pretensioned et al), have bashed plenty potholes and curbs. Formula hub with DT Swiss 14ga spokes if it matters. Got the set for about $220 in 2005 or so. They aren't very light. City use? Yes. Velodrome use? No.

i used to ride around on one on the rear and it worked great

i have them and have nothing bad to say about them. especially for the price. im not racing my bike, just getting around town hopping up and down curbs. so yeah, they arent bad at all.

I have one on the rear of my conversion, works great for me.
I'm a fan of the silver.

I don't feel too comfortable with the weinmanns due to so many reporting the rims splitting at the seem after a while.

where is this information coming from? i find that hard to believe, especially "so many reporting"

Got a set a few months back when my crappy old re-dished 27" rims wouldn't stay true for more than a few days at a time. They are a bit heavy, but no complaints here [EDIT: Actually, one complaint: I kept getting rear flats for the first few days (yes, I had rim strips), and I think there was some rough, sharp bit somewhere on the rim's interior causing them. A quick buff with some sandpaper did the trick, and I haven't had a flat in months]; I've bashed them around at least 30 miles every day and the rear has only gone slightly out of true once, after meeting a large pothole. Nothing a spoke wrench and 5 minutes couldn't fix. No split seams to report.

str8flexed: Nice Iris Murdoch quote in your sig. :thumb:

just spend the extra like $50 for a velocity wheelset


my LBS built me Deep-V's to Formulas w/ DT spokes for $285

the dp-18s can be had on ebay for like 175 or soemthing

i got mine from bicyclewheels.com and i'm perfectly happy with them especially at $155 shipped.

I donno, the way I see it is that at 25mph flying down a hill, if my wheel splits, i'll probably get really hurt.


I'd rather go with a wheel that doesn't have history of having issues with that.

I completely agree, i wouldn't want my wheel to split regardless.

I just don't see where the history of issues regarding weinmann dp-18s came from.

they're tough as hell and just as heavy. they look slick as do most deep v's. mine look like **** now due to some DIY machining... but at least i can stop in the rain now.

it seems like whenever the quality of a product is being discussed on here, terrifying issues regarding falling apart and stuff seem to come out of the woodwork, but not really from anyone in particular, which is rather confusing.

it seems like whenever the quality of a product is being discussed on here, terrifying issues regarding falling apart and stuff seem to come out of the woodwork, but not really from anyone in particular, which is rather confusing.

use the search function.

use the search function.
I did. And every mention (all three or four of them that turned up after a search of the string "weinmann, seam") of this issue is something along the lines of, "My rims look a little funny, is this bad?" And the responses are all along the lines of, "Well, I knock mine around pretty hard and they're OK." And not one mention of an actual rim failure in the lot of them.

same here, except in the case of sugino cranks. i heard mention of them breaking and chainline issues, but upon searching, most of the chainline issues dont seem to too terrible an there is nothing about them breaking.

where is this information coming from? i find that hard to believe, especially "so many reporting"

from my search of the forum "weinmann dp-18"

I have put up the argument before that under equal conditions (same nipples, hubs, and spokes built by the same well-established wheelbuilder), I don't see how a Weinmann and a Velocity would fail any differently under real-world conditions.

I am interested in seeing a lab test measuring various strengths of both rims side-by-side. However I just don't understand how one can say a Velocity deep profile rim will be any better on the street than a Weinmann equivalent. The materials and cross-sections seem too similar for such a presumptive claim. End of the day a head-on is going to pwn your Weinmann, your Deep V, or your CXP-33. All other normal riding conditions where people complain about Weinmanns seems to be with build quality of the wheel as a whole... which leads to a careful symantical shift. It is not the Weinmann rim which is faulty, it is the low-quality, machine-done build which creates a lack of performance.

In point, the hatred of Weinmanns in other threads is much ado about nothing. Both a Weinmann DP-18 and a Velocity Rim are likely to fail in the same way; they share similar weights and "budget" must be used relatively. Deep Vs are as much a budget rim as Weinmanns when the standard is Zipps. Because Deep Vs are considered the "standard," we get the fallacy that Weinmann rims are in some way technically inferior to Velocity's design, while it is actually the machine-built-formula-dt-swiss-all-for-$120-aspect that is the fatal performance flaw.

my weinmanns came really well set up. the front was spot on and the rear's tension was a little low, but completely even.

my only complaint is the metal shavings left over from the spoke holes. You have to be really careful to get them all out and shaved off or you'll be getting flats[even with rim tape].

i didnt have any stray metal shavings on my wheel

Everyone I know that has these wheels has not had any of the problems everyone here seems to describe. That doesn't mean they won't fail, however I tend to believe very little when it comes to parts being reviewed by a bunch of kids who use them to go "Stuntin" on their fixies outside their local coffe shop. If these wheels were such a danger you can believe bicyclewheels.com wouldn't even bother carrying them.

i have a set of white on my bike. looks the same as the velocity deep v. if youre gonna get standard crayola colors such as white silver or black get those. if you want some cool shiny metalic ones, go get velocity. heavy, sure thing, but it can take a beating.

are they worth $100??

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Wienmann-DP18-Track-Wheelset-FX-FW-Silver-Track_W0QQitemZ180265910774QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item180265910774&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

Iv been riding a pair for about 6 months at about 10 miles a day. I live in Oklahoma (if you have never been here, almost all of our streets are thrashed as hell.) and they are still going strong as ever. I think they are great investment.

are they worth $100??

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Wienmann-DP18-Track-Wheelset-FX-FW-Silver-Track_W0QQitemZ180265910774QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item180265910774&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

hahahaha

plus $230 shipping to canada.

27 to continental US, still way cheap

im thinking about it. If they werent white id probably have bought it by now.

it says they are silver...i think the picture is just bright and make them look white. but white would be even better, imo

color shouldnt matter much, especially white, because its going to get scuffed up anyways.

It does say silver haha i could have swore it said white. Are they really that bad bc for 125 im kinda tempted to get them but dont want to have to spend another 100 on rims in a few months.

you will be fine. they are not bad wheels. i know a lot of people that have had them and never had a single issue with them. another buddy with velocities even said he was considering picking up a set because he has heard nothing but good things and they are half the cost of the velocities. i bought them about a month ago and drop curbs and ride up curbs and they dont wobble at all. do it!

I love mine. They are sturdy as hell and can take quite a beating. Of course, a lot of 36H rims laced 3x will take a beating no problem.

im thinking about it, and they arent that heavy they are about a 1lb heavier than the mavic cxp22/formula set up.

i have them in black, they do the job. i ride in Boston where there often potholes every 2-3 feet and theyve held up. no splitting yet, ill just end up getting a new rear rim. i dont find myself splitting hte front anytime soon.

for 125 you really cant beat it, im gunna do it and use the other money im saving on other things.

i'd buy them if i was in the US, if they were white as well

yea im actually kinda bummed that they arent white now that i think about it

They are great for city / every day use, but it's true they're kinda heavy. Now we're not talking a very
noticeable difference in weight, but more
material = more grams.

They're only a little less
expensive than Velocity's Deep V's. Do yourself a favor, save up and go with
Velocity.

well when i can get a set of weinmanns for 125 shipped and velocity's for 240 shipped its a big save

I just rebuilt a set of Campy Veloce hubs with the DP18s after the Alex R450s wouldn't stay true. They look sweet, are very sturdy, but also very heavy. Built by hand, though, they're bulletproof so far, especially compared with the lightweight R450s. Tough rims for everyday use.

I just got a set of the Weinmanns on Formulas for $139 shipped. I'm building up my fixie and will let you know in a bit but I did quite a bit of research on them before buying them and didn't find them failing in normal conditions, and didn't see anything about them failing catastrophically without signs showing first.