Road Cycling - Question about UCI/USCF rules

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hacker44240
01-21-04, 12:53 PM
My question is regarding this rule:

1.3.013 The peak of the saddle shall be a minimum of 5 cm to the
rear of a vertical plane passing through the bottom bracket spindle.
This restriction shall not be applied to the bicycle ridden by a rider in
a track sprint event, keirin, 500 meters or 1 kilometer time trials;
however, in no circumstances shall the peak of the saddle extend in
front of a vertical line passing through the bottom bracket spindle.

My bike has a 74 degree seat tube angle (not all that steep) and I use a layed back seat post (easton EC90) and my saddle is positioned in about the middle of the rails. It is a small frame (Giant TCR), so the post is extended nearly all the way to the maximum. The distance from saddle nose to BB center is still not 5 cm. It is about 3 cm.

This is a pretty standard set up for a road bike and it seems strange to me that there is almost no way I can get it to fulfill this requirement. Has anyone else noticed this about their machine? How in the world could you fulfill this requirement if you were setting up a time trial or tri bike with a steep seat tube angle?

Is the peak of the saddle the same thing as the nose of the saddle? Maybe that's where I'm confused.


Phatman
01-21-04, 01:22 PM
actually, in the tour de france, the TT bikes have pretty standard seat tube angles, like 74 or 75 degrees.

i think it is a dumb rule, becuase the smaller riders need really layed back seatposts, while the taller riders can pretty much put their saddle anywhere they want. I'm not sure about any exceptions though. Theres got to be something...

Smoothie104
01-21-04, 05:42 PM
You are correct in using the very front tip of the saddle, and the centerline of the bottom bracket, not the outer shell of the bottom bracket. If you look closely you will see some pro's have cut off the tip of the saddle to stay in compliance.

I believe the rule was put in place in order to prevent the "superman position"

I have never seen anyone measuring this at any USCF race, but if you win, some dick may try to use it against you in protest, but doubtful.


geneman
01-21-04, 10:22 PM
On a side note, did you know your EA90 has to be inserted a minimum of 70mm into the seat tube for safety? It looks like the EA90 only comes in a 250mm. If you've installed it according to Easton's protocol, then your seat would probably be too low in a compact frame. Are you safe my brotha?

-mark

hacker44240
01-22-04, 07:39 AM
I do have the post inserted to the safe 70 mm or so, so it is inserted "just enough".

On another note, just to ad insult to injury, I do not comply with this rule either:

1.3.014 The saddle support shall be horizontal. The length of the saddle shall be 24 cm minimum and 27.5 cm maximum.

I have a Selle Italia Fight Trans Am saddle. Guess what? It is 28 cm in length! I guess I can just chop off 2 cm from the saddle nose (or get a shorter saddle) to solve the problem.

DieselDan
01-22-04, 08:49 AM
The rule is for track racing, not road racing.

hacker44240
01-22-04, 09:30 AM
This text was at the top of the section regarding bike regulations, so since I would be riding in domestic USCF events, I don't have to worry about this. I guess I should read all of it next time!

In international permitted races, bicycles must meet the specifications in the current edition of "UCI Cycling Regulations" Chapter III, Equipment, Section 2, Bicycles 1.3.001 - 1.3.025 as follows. These regulations do not apply to USCF domestic races, except as may be specified by the executive director for specific events.

Gonzo Bob
01-22-04, 11:04 AM
can't you ask for a morphological exception on this rule?

pinky
01-22-04, 11:19 AM
um...hacker, ride more-read less

hacker44240
01-22-04, 06:15 PM
Pinky - it's freezing and snowing here right now. It's dark when I leave to go to work and its dark when i leave to go home. If I could ride I would ;-) I'm stuck going to spinning classes and running on the tred mill, yuck! I was reading because I want to at least do something related to cycling!

F1_Fan
01-22-04, 06:54 PM
um...hacker, ride more-read less

Damit... he actually made me measure my own seat position.