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Fidelista
07-22-08, 09:36 PM
This is the official 'Rooting for Cadel' thread.
You know it makes sense.
I'm Sam Kekovic.


And you're Rooting for Cadel!


ridethecliche
07-22-08, 11:06 PM
This is the official 'Rooting for Cadel' thread.
You know it makes sense.
I'm Sam Kekovic.


And you're Rooting for Cadel!

Nope.

USAZorro
07-22-08, 11:09 PM
This is looking like the first year in a long time where the rider I hoped would win, won't.


Fidelista
07-23-08, 12:18 AM
Nope.I am so Sam Kekovic.

yellowjeep
07-23-08, 12:26 AM
Me either.
Zoro who are you pulling for?

Fidelista
07-23-08, 12:48 AM
Me either.
Zoro who are you pulling for?If you won't root for Cadel then pulling for him is an acceptable substitute.

yellowjeep
07-23-08, 12:50 AM
I dislike Cadel in a very big way I would rather see Schelck in yellow.

USAZorro
07-23-08, 12:58 AM
Me either.
Zoro who are you pulling for?

I was hoping that Christian would be able to pull off the miracle. After pulling for Lance/Floyd/Contador - looks like the run is going to be over.

Suzie Green
07-23-08, 01:12 AM
Unless VandeVelde can pull an epic "Floyd-type" stage (minus the artificial booster), I'm afraid the best we can hope for is a podium, and that's only if he can rally in today's stage and at least suffer no further losses. His crash was hard to swallow, losing 30-40 seconds wouldn't have seemed so bad, but 2:30 and change was rough!

bac
07-23-08, 08:50 AM
Unless VandeVelde can pull an epic "Floyd-type" stage (minus the artificial booster), I'm afraid the best we can hope for is a podium, and that's only if he can rally in today's stage and at least suffer no further losses. His crash was hard to swallow, losing 30-40 seconds wouldn't have seemed so bad, but 2:30 and change was rough!

Yup .... apparently he not only got dropped, but he crashed on the downhill. That's where he lost most of the time. Now he's REALLY under the radar! :)

... Brad

merlinextraligh
07-23-08, 11:53 AM
only reason I have any desire to see Evans win is he's on my fantasy team.

Even so, I'd love to see Sastre ride the TT of his live and hold on for the win.

Rather see someone win the race as the result of going for it, rather than just marking others.

Malthus
07-24-08, 12:32 AM
I really don't understand why so many people, or at least it seems, dislike Cadel Evans?

2wheeled
07-24-08, 12:55 AM
I really don't understand why so many people, or at least it seems, dislike Cadel Evans?

Because he lacks panache.

cadeldaman
07-24-08, 01:29 AM
lacks panache!!!!?!?! the man comes up with quips and jabs at the media and fellow writers all the time in his ever so cheecky aussie way! like these two great vids just came across with Cadal showin some.. lets say .. well "panache"...

http://www.cycleto.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=414

http://www.cycleto.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=405

Pedaleur
07-24-08, 01:41 AM
Even so, I'd love to see Sastre ride the TT of his live and hold on for the win.

Sadly, if he does, we can guess everyone's first reaction...


Rather see someone win the race as the result of going for it, rather than just marking others.

I agree. Cadel has been smart. He has ridden well. He is focused on the ultimate prize. But I just don't like the idea of winning the Tour without winning a stage.

parka100
07-24-08, 05:50 AM
I am rooting for Cadel he is going to do the TT of his life and win the tour and Sastre will crash and burn out of yellow

adam
07-24-08, 07:14 AM
I really don't understand why so many people, or at least it seems, dislike Cadel Evans?

Because he's incredibly boring.

adam
07-24-08, 07:15 AM
This is the official 'Rooting for Cadel' thread.
You know it makes sense.
I'm Sam Kekovic.


And you're Rooting for Cadel!

Have fun rooting (http://www.koalanet.com.au/australian-slang.html#R) for Cadel.

KirkeIsWaiting
07-24-08, 07:53 AM
Have fun rooting (http://www.koalanet.com.au/australian-slang.html#R) for Cadel.

way too funny! :lol:

2wheeled
07-24-08, 08:25 AM
lacks panache!!!!?!?! the man comes up with quips and jabs at the media and fellow writers all the time in his ever so cheecky aussie way! like these two great vids just came across with Cadal showin some.. lets say .. well "panache"...

http://www.cycleto.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=414

http://www.cycleto.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=405

That's so impressive. :rolleyes:

collegeskier
07-24-08, 08:31 AM
lacks panache!!!!?!?! the man comes up with quips and jabs at the media and fellow writers all the time in his ever so cheecky aussie way! like these two great vids just came across with Cadal showin some.. lets say .. well "panache"...

http://www.cycleto.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=414

http://www.cycleto.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=405

I notice the other day, he pushed one of the mics out of his way and then went on to be very gracious to Vs. Maybe Vs being a love fest of cycling is good.

I think he lacks panache on the bike is the problem.

Malthus
07-24-08, 02:53 PM
I guess I was expecting something more substantive underlying the anti-Cadel sentiment...

Lack of panache? Ok, sure, why not.

cuski
07-24-08, 02:58 PM
Have fun rooting (http://www.koalanet.com.au/australian-slang.html#R) for Cadel.

LMAO!!! :lol:

Japhy
07-24-08, 03:05 PM
Cadel has to be the most boring GC rider I've seen. I don't think riding with the attitude of "how many minutes can I lose on this stage" (stage 17) is one that we should see from a champion. I do like the Schlek boys, but frankly wanted to see Menchov do better. A least they attack and try to get time on their rivals, not just hope not to lose too much time to make it up in the TT. Seems to one-dimensional to me. But am I saying I could do it? Nope. If Cadel wins, good for him, but I was falling asleep during yesterday's stage from 3:30 to 9:00am, PST. Was hoping for more to keep me awake.

Little Darwin
07-24-08, 04:23 PM
I am hoping to see Cadel do something special on the TT. If he does, he deserves the win. If not, then Sastre deserves it.

From my recollection, Sastre basically did little in the tour worthy of a winner either other than the ride up the Alp de Huez (as amazing as it was) so how is he any more worthy of being the winner of the tour than Cadel? Especially if he were to have an extraordinary TT?

Carlos had an amazing team supporting him and the Schlecks, and Cadel was basically on his own with CSC trying to hurt him up every climb in the mountains, while they were there to support Sastre and each other...

If Sastre rides into Paris with a small lead over Evans, then who was really the better rider?

It is a team sport, and I definitely won't begrudge Sastre the victory, and I know CSC will have the team victory, and they definitely deserve it. But I am hoping Evans can muster up something from deep down to at least make Sastre sweat.

But, there is a part of me that wants to see Sastre do the best TT of his career and prove that he is the true champion.

roadwarrior
07-24-08, 04:40 PM
I am hoping to see Cadel do something special on the TT. If he does, he deserves the win. If not, then Sastre deserves it.

From my recollection, Sastre basically did little in the tour worthy of a winner either other than the ride up the Alp de Huez (as amazing as it was) so how is he any more worthy of being the winner of the tour than Cadel? Especially if he were to have an extraordinary TT?

Carlos had an amazing team supporting him and the Schlecks, and Cadel was basically on his own with CSC trying to hurt him up every climb in the mountains, while they were there to support Sastre and each other...

If Sastre rides into Paris with a small lead over Evans, then who was really the better rider?

It is a team sport, and I definitely won't begrudge Sastre the victory, and I know CSC will have the team victory, and they definitely deserve it. But I am hoping Evans can muster up something from deep down to at least make Sastre sweat.

But, there is a part of me that wants to see Sastre do the best TT of his career and prove that he is the true champion.

Dude...this is Bikeforums. You are asking too many logical, thought out questions.

;)

The "better rider" is the one that wins. The rest is commentary. Usually done by people that could never dream of doing this.

Case closed.

Snake8
07-24-08, 04:56 PM
I dream of riding the tour. Literally. Had a crazy dream the other night. It was really hard. In my dream.

Still don't like Cadel, though none of the top bunch this year are really dynamic personalities. I can respect Cadel, but he's tough to like unless you are an aussie or a wheel sucker. :p

bricktopmarv
07-24-08, 05:18 PM
I am hoping to see Cadel do something special on the TT. If he does, he deserves the win. If not, then Sastre deserves it.

From my recollection, Sastre basically did little in the tour worthy of a winner either other than the ride up the Alp de Huez (as amazing as it was) so how is he any more worthy of being the winner of the tour than Cadel? Especially if he were to have an extraordinary TT?

Carlos had an amazing team supporting him and the Schlecks, and Cadel was basically on his own with CSC trying to hurt him up every climb in the mountains, while they were there to support Sastre and each other...

If Sastre rides into Paris with a small lead over Evans, then who was really the better rider?

It is a team sport, and I definitely won't begrudge Sastre the victory, and I know CSC will have the team victory, and they definitely deserve it. But I am hoping Evans can muster up something from deep down to at least make Sastre sweat.

Amen. Whether Cadel manages to pull it off or not, I personally think he has done remarkable things just to be in the position he is without a team like CSC behind him. :thumb:

smoke
07-24-08, 06:40 PM
Amen. Whether Cadel manages to pull it off or not, I personally think he has done remarkable things just to be in the position he is without a team like CSC behind him. :thumb:

exactly. nobody is talking about how sastre was sucking wheel from day one until the alp, are they? evans has fought the entire csc team by himself and still gotten into position to win the tour. i'm not a fan of his, but i think he deserves a lot of credit that he's not getting here. i can understand how some think he's a boring rider, or he has no panache. but he's on his own, and his goal is to win this race, not finish 14th with style

Allen H
07-24-08, 07:42 PM
exactly. nobody was talking about how sastre was sucking wheel from day one until the alp, are they? evans has fought the entire csc team by himself and still gotten into position to win the tour. i'm not a fan of his, but i think he deserves a lot of credit that he's not getting here. i can understand how some think he's a boring rider, or he has no panache. but he's on his own, and his goal is to win this race, not finish 14th with style

Agreed, especially with what I've bolded.

I think there must be some anti-Cadel fans here who WOULD rather see him attack, attack - and fail to podium, than ride smart as he has, and potentially win the tour. I'd also hazard a guess that many of the anti-Cadel fans must have been big fans of riders like Vinokourov, who attacked with panache - but oftentimes, to the detriment of not only his own podium chances, but more importantly, to his team's chances of winning.

Going off on a tear on numerous stages may be more entertaining, but is usually counter-productive to winning a tour, even for the strongest riders (unless you're a Pantani or Merckx or Hinault). It takes patience and strength to stay with the best on the toughest stages, and marshall your energy for when it HAS to be expended, especially when another whole team attacks and sets the pace, while you're riding alone.

2wheeled
07-24-08, 07:46 PM
I dream of riding the tour. Literally. Had a crazy dream the other night. It was really hard. In my dream.
Still don't like Cadel, though none of the top bunch this year are really dynamic personalities. I can respect Cadel, but he's tough to like unless you are an aussie or a wheel sucker. :p

We really don't want to know about your nocturnal activities thank you :(

smoke
07-24-08, 08:36 PM
Agreed, especially with what I've bolded.

I think there must be some anti-Cadel fans here who WOULD rather see him attack, attack - and fail to podium, than ride smart as he has, and potentially win the tour. I'd also hazard a guess that many of the anti-Cadel fans must have been big fans of riders like Vinokourov, who attacked with panache - but oftentimes, to the detriment of not only his own podium chances, but more importantly, to his team's chances of winning.

Going off on a tear on numerous stages may be more entertaining, but is usually counter-productive to winning a tour, even for the strongest riders (unless you're a Pantani or Merckx or Hinault). It takes patience and strength to stay with the best on the toughest stages, and marshall your energy for when it HAS to be expended, especially when another whole team attacks and sets the pace, while you're riding alone.

...especially when those stages are playing to someone else's strengths and not yours

stevegor
07-24-08, 09:51 PM
I fear Cadel may have reached too far into his reserves fighting CSC's tactics, to ride a "Tour winning" TT.

Green Jager
07-24-08, 10:49 PM
I guess I have to say that I like Cadel exactly for the reasons that many do not. He is not flashy, he not wild he just rides. I personally that we have yet to see his best in this Tour, or at least I hope so. And to be honest if a Belgian cannot win it it might as well be a Belgian team.

smoke
07-25-08, 12:13 AM
I fear Cadel may have reached too far into his reserves fighting CSC's tactics, to ride a "Tour winning" TT.

i don't think so. i think the fact that csc just let him ride today without pushing him allowed him to get rest both today and tomorrow and he's gonna be in fine shape for the TT. i was kinda surprised to see csc not try and get a few more seconds out of him at the end of today's stage. even if it didn't work, it would have meant they weren't giving him any time to rest and recuperate from the alps

POTFH
07-25-08, 05:12 AM
CSC will have to really push the envelope today to wear Cadel down today. They cannot afford to let him start saturday without some pain and exhaustion. No wheel sucking on Saturday so we will see who the better rider is I guess. It would be cool to see Cadel pass some riders on the TT. Also a good thing there is no TTT again this year as Evans has no team.

merlinextraligh
07-25-08, 07:24 AM
CSC will have to really push the envelope today to wear Cadel down today. .


And with only a cat4, and a Cat3 climb, and the last 30kdownhill or flat, just how do you propose they do that?

Fidelista
07-27-08, 08:28 PM
Have fun rooting (http://www.koalanet.com.au/australian-slang.html#R) for Cadel.The winner!